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Paying for the moderation software for RPM
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San Diego Joe wrote: "Kurt" wrote: My question would be, just how bad could an unmoderated board for ponds be? It's not political, religious or controversial, and aside from bulk spam or the occasional flamer, I don't see the value of a omderated board except to be a lot of work for someone. I subscribe to about 20 Usenet groups, and none of them are moderated. They manage to do fine. Most everyone knows how to use a killfile, anyway. Just my 2 cents. Wow. For a preview, drop in over at rec.ponds. It used to be worse. I dropped in today after never having been there. Scrolled through last 2 months posts. You have the prolific cross spammer bobandcarole and a few others easily killfiled. He hit a few groups I was in a while back, but disappeared after a few emails to his news service. Amazed that he gets in that group. The rest are related. The problem I see is that many of the pond group were constantly responding to these posts. Easy solution: If they don't get attention they gradually stop posting. Don't respond. Email their news provider, don't waste time responding to their baiting. No posts in that entire group today. Using the killfile feature is really all you need. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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Paying for the moderation software for RPM
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:04:40 CST, Kurt wrote:
Easy solution: If they don't get attention they gradually stop posting. Don't respond. Email their news provider, don't waste time responding to their baiting. No posts in that entire group today. Using the killfile feature is really all you need. Two years of suggesting/doing the above, some just wouldn't do it or play nice. The current RP is no history of what it was a year ago. My killfile was so huge, it would have taken a ream of paper to print it off. And let's not forget the nonsense flooding that still occurs. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:31:08 CST, Kurt
wrote: My question would be, just how bad could an unmoderated board for ponds be? Bad enough to reduce our number of posters to a small group of very dedicated people who really like to discuss fish keeping and cause them to band together and support a moderated group. -- Hal Middle Georgia, Zone 8 http://tinyurl.com/2fxzcb |
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Paying for the moderation software for RPM
Hi Kurt,
I wondered the same thing when we began to have spammers and conflictual posters on rec.ponds. I enjoyed the group greatly. Take a look at rec.ponds now...or go over selected months for the last couple of years. It provides a direct answer to 'how bad'. The moderated group seems to me a wonderful alternative to the sad state of the unmoderated group. JMHO Jim My question would be, just how bad could an unmoderated board for ponds be? It's not political, religious or controversial, and aside from bulk spam or the occasional flamer, |
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Paying for the moderation software for RPM
Drew,
Thanks for the clarification about your problem. Galen is wiser than most of us moderators about the details of posts. Could you send him an entire rejected post so that we can check out what is getting you bounced by the software? Jim |
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Paying for the moderation software for RPM
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~ jan wrote: On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:04:40 CST, Kurt wrote: Easy solution: If they don't get attention they gradually stop posting. Don't respond. Email their news provider, don't waste time responding to their baiting. No posts in that entire group today. Using the killfile feature is really all you need. Two years of suggesting/doing the above, some just wouldn't do it or play nice. The current RP is no history of what it was a year ago. My killfile was so huge, it would have taken a ream of paper to print it off. And let's not forget the nonsense flooding that still occurs. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us But now that group has had no posts in 2 days. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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Paying for the moderation software for RPM
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:51:33 CST, Kurt wrote:
But now that group has had no posts in 2 days. And it took, hmmm, 9 months for that to happen, and 1-2 years prior to that, and after, the majority of us couldn't post there without being filleted. So a handful of us banded together, and with Ron S. doing the majority of the startup work, RPM was created. Just because old RP has been quiet for 2 days does not give me confidence to go back there. Trolls do have dormancy periods. ;-) And.... sad to say, even some of our loyal ponders have sharp tongues that they think they're hiding by being witty. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Paying for the moderation software for RPM
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Phyllis and Jim wrote: Hi Kurt, I wondered the same thing when we began to have spammers and conflictual posters on rec.ponds. I enjoyed the group greatly. Take a look at rec.ponds now...or go over selected months for the last couple of years. It provides a direct answer to 'how bad'. The moderated group seems to me a wonderful alternative to the sad state of the unmoderated group. Yes, I glanced through a few months worth. Were these good ponders gone bad? ;-) I can't imagine how that group attracted all that malice. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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Paying for the moderation software for RPM
I am not sure what happened. If you review the posts after about
2005, you get a very quick idea of the hostilities and where they were focused. Others could probably describe it to you. Speaking for myself, I love having a group that is without the rancor of the trolled rec.ponds. It feels rather like the old days before the trolls. I thought they would quit when folks did not respond. Not so. I thought they would tire. Not so. The goal was very much to destroy the group. That brought the attacking of everything. Jim |
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Still at $295 toward moderation software
We are at $295 out of the $360 it takes to use the moderation software
next year. Thnanks folks...now the last push. Jim |
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Paying for the moderation software for RPM
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:14:17 CST, Kurt wrote:
Were these good ponders gone bad? ;-) Or showing their true colors from the comforts of their closets? ;-) Coincidence that RP is being flooded today? Makes me wonder if they're still seeing RPM as a threat that we might go back there. Some people have too much time on their hands. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"Kurt" wrote in message ... I can't imagine how that group attracted all that malice. ======================= I tried to email you but it bounced. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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Still at $295 toward moderation software
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Hash: SHA1 In . com Phyllis and Jim writes: We are at $295 out of the $360 it takes to use the moderation software next year. Thnanks folks...now the last push. Jim Phyllis, Jim, Ron (et al), Did you get my E-mails about the possibility of moving to Panix, running the same STUMP and WebSTUMP software, using an existing configuration/installation developed by the community of moderation teams over at Panix, with free volunteer support from fellow moderators? I understand if the answer would be no, but just wanted to confirm that my offer was received and considered. We have no vested interest in Panix other than that of satisfied customers. The cost would be $10/month, or $100/year, for the Panix shell account, which would stretch the money you've already raised to 3 years of service, not just 1, saving you from having to go through all of this again next year. We've already brought one team in, and gotten them up to speed within a couple of days, so I foresee no technical snags or steep learning curves. This is the same software and interface with which you are familiar, and have been using for almost a year. There is the opportunity to set this up in parallel at Panix for $10 a month to try out the system, and abandon if it if you don t like it, without risk or interruption to your ReadySTUMP service. - -- Paul W. Schleck (rec.radio.amateur.moderated and rec.radio.info) http://www.novia.net/~pschleck/ Finger for PGP Public Key -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (SunOS) iD8DBQFHNt/76Pj0az779o4RAr4gAJ4p2pBhnouTWILknFWQA0EbOjaKfQCgs C5q a/OVGbjVLlOVTFU7qyvcdqU= =5SZ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Still at $295 toward moderation software
Hi Paul,
I have not seen your emails, but appreciate this one! I will touch base with the other mods and write to you privately. Thank you for looking at the situation and having a plan. Jim |
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