I'm thinking of doing some renovations to our home. One possibility is to
direct the rain runoff from the asphalt shingle roof into my 650 gal pond.
My question is will the water that runs off the roof (including what it
gathers through the gutters

A. Hurt my pond & fish

B. Help my pond & fish

C. Have no affect on my pond & fish

D. Some other choice?

I'm concerned about the small pieces of asphalt or whatever it is that often
comes off the roof as it may affect my pumps and filters.

Any comment?

Thanks,

Tom in Howell, NJ

Its prone to add lots of unwated materials like granual particles from
roofing etc in the pond which are relatively inert, but really shld
not be there. YOu get dust and all kind sof other fall out particulate
matter on a roof, and then having it get washed by rain into the pond
could make for problems with excessive nbutrients from pollens dust
etc......It can also inundate the pond with a heavy rainfall and
provide the fish with nothing but oxygen poor water since rainfall is
not overly rich with O2 to begin with, so it would change the
paramaters of your water much quicker in a short period of time than
if it just got what rain naturally fell into it. SOunds good to be
able to use that water for such, but probably not really a good idea.


On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:11:06 -0500, "Tom Puskar"
wrote:
I'm thinking of doing some renovations to our home. One possibility is to
direct the rain runoff from the asphalt shingle roof into my 650 gal pond.
My question is will the water that runs off the roof (including what it
gathers through the gutters

A. Hurt my pond & fish

B. Help my pond & fish

C. Have no affect on my pond & fish

D. Some other choice?

I'm concerned about the small pieces of asphalt or whatever it is that often
comes off the roof as it may affect my pumps and filters.

Any comment?

Thanks,

Tom in Howell, NJ


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"Tom Puskar" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking of doing some renovations to our home. One possibility is
to direct the rain runoff from the asphalt shingle roof into my 650 gal
pond. My question is will the water that runs off the roof (including
what it gathers through the gutters

A. Hurt my pond & fish

B. Help my pond & fish

C. Have no affect on my pond & fish

D. Some other choice?

I'm concerned about the small pieces of asphalt or whatever it is that
often comes off the roof as it may affect my pumps and filters.

Any comment?

There are a number of variables affecting the outcome, such as the size
of your pond, water hardness, typical rainfall quantities and intervals
etc. However, even with all the relevant data, I'm not qualified to give
specific advice, but here are some considerations.

Water coming off a dark asphalt roof can be quite hot when it starts
(problem for small ponds). Also if the pond is small, then you will be
filling it at the same time rainfall is filling it (may overflow). Also
your proximity to industrial operations will give you a sense of what has
settled on your roof (which would be washed down into it).

As a general comment (the only thing I'm qualified to do), your water
collection system should be designed to capture the first several minutes
of rainfall (hot, dirty water with organic and inorganic debris) and
discard it, and your pond should have an appropriate overflow (if
needed). hth
--
www.NetMax.tk

Thanks,

Tom in Howell, NJ

I agree with Roy about the unwanted "extras" - one solution to that is to
connect your eavetroughs to a plastic 45 gal drum , or a series of them to
collect the rain and after it settles, top off your ponds from the water
collected. you will need a fine mesh screen or cheese cloth to keep out
mosquitos or it will become a breeding ground for them. Other than dirt and
sand from the roof, I don't think the water will contain anything else
harmful
Just my 2 cents worth - :~) Gale

Its prone to add lots of unwated materials like granual particles from
roofing etc in the pond which are relatively inert, but really shld
not be there. YOu get dust and all kind sof other fall out particulate
matter on a roof, and then having it get washed by rain into the pond
could make for problems with excessive nbutrients from pollens dust
etc......It can also inundate the pond with a heavy rainfall and
provide the fish with nothing but oxygen poor water since rainfall is
not overly rich with O2 to begin with, so it would change the
paramaters of your water much quicker in a short period of time than
if it just got what rain naturally fell into it. SOunds good to be
able to use that water for such, but probably not really a good idea.


On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:11:06 -0500, "Tom Puskar"
wrote:
I'm thinking of doing some renovations to our home. One possibility is
to
direct the rain runoff from the asphalt shingle roof into my 650 gal
pond.
My question is will the water that runs off the roof (including what it
gathers through the gutters

A. Hurt my pond & fish

B. Help my pond & fish

C. Have no affect on my pond & fish

D. Some other choice?

I'm concerned about the small pieces of asphalt or whatever it is that
often
comes off the roof as it may affect my pumps and filters.

Any comment?

Thanks,

Tom in Howell, NJ


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"Tom Puskar" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking of doing some renovations to our home. One possibility is to
direct the rain runoff from the asphalt shingle roof into my 650 gal pond.
My question is will the water that runs off the roof (including what it
gathers through the gutters

A. Hurt my pond & fish

B. Help my pond & fish

C. Have no affect on my pond & fish

D. Some other choice?

I'm concerned about the small pieces of asphalt or whatever it is that
often comes off the roof as it may affect my pumps and filters.

Any comment?
========================
Besides what the other's mentioned, I would be concerned about a rapid
change in water temperature along with a rapid PH/Hardness change should you
have rainfall running off into your pond. That can't be good for the fish.
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Aquariums since 1952
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:11:06 -0500, "Tom Puskar"
wrote:

I'm thinking of doing some renovations to our home. One possibility is to
direct the rain runoff from the asphalt shingle roof into my 650 gal pond.
My question is will the water that runs off the roof (including what it
gathers through the gutters

A. Hurt my pond & fish

B. Help my pond & fish

C. Have no affect on my pond & fish

D. Some other choice?

I'm concerned about the small pieces of asphalt or whatever it is that often
comes off the roof as it may affect my pumps and filters.

Any comment?

When my wife and I lived on Maui our *only* source of water was roof
runoff. We had a simple diverter system (consisting of a piece of rope, a
piece of gutter, a spring and a leaky bucket) that dumped the water from
the roof until a fair amount had already come down, then it closed,
allowing the water to go into the "cistern," a tank off an old tanker
truck. It kept any "roof debris" from getting into our water, and I think
it would probably work on any hot water issues you might get into from the
roof. You didn't have to remember to reset it or anything, it was fairly
simple, cheap and automatic. It never failed or even needed servicing
while I was there.

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
Stings like a butterfly, floats like a bee

D. Some other choice? Tom in Howell, NJ

In case you're thinking of diverting this water to save money, water is the
cheapest thing you'll ever put in your pond. ;o)

Unless you can do something, as others have suggested, so it flows into a
holding tank to settle and be treated, I wouldn't divert it direct into the
pond. ~ jan

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www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
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Thanks everyone. I think I'll direct the leaders somewhere other than into
the pond.

Tom in Howell, NJ

"~ janj" wrote in message
...
D. Some other choice? Tom in Howell, NJ

In case you're thinking of diverting this water to save money, water is
the
cheapest thing you'll ever put in your pond. ;o)

Unless you can do something, as others have suggested, so it flows into a
holding tank to settle and be treated, I wouldn't divert it direct into
the
pond. ~ jan

--------------
See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

............ bird shit. which contains pathogens for fish. since I have netted my
pond so no birds cant get in and bath and crap in the water I havent lost any fish.
Ingrid


Other than dirt and
sand from the roof, I don't think the water will contain anything else
harmful


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Yep, just lke having ducks, geese etc in a pond you can tell with the
droppings especially around the edges as that water will get green
quick., and from what I found out accumulations of it adds to algae as
well as pathogens, which lead to all kinds of problems in fish. On
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:34:49 GMT, wrote:
........... bird shit. which contains pathogens for fish. since I have netted my
pond so no birds cant get in and bath and crap in the water I havent lost any fish.
Ingrid


Other than dirt and
sand from the roof, I don't think the water will contain anything else
harmful


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