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Frogs in ponds
I have seen several folks talk about "relocating" frogs. That wouldn't
seem to be a viable alternative in my case. Any frogs in my pond are long gone by the time I get there. As I get within about 30 feet of the pond frogs that are present squeak with alarm and jump into the water. All I see are the rings in the water from where they have jumped in. I have a chair out there about 20 feet from the water's edge. It used to be a lot closer to the water, but it has been rather dry here, and the water isn't even close to where it used to be. If I sit in the chair and remain still for about 20 min or so, the frogs start to surface and return to shore, but they are awful skittish. I've sat and watched six times now as snakes (black racers) come down to the pond to drink and to feed. I think there are four different snakes, but I'm not absolutely sure, all snakes of a species tend to look pretty much alike to me, and I have only seen two at the same time. Anyway, they haven't eaten everything in the pond, not by a long shot. They are incredibly fast and sneaky, and get a frog every now and then, but the frogs are also fast and extremely wary, and get away much more often than not. It's almost enough to make you pity the snake. As far as daylilies go, I have some that I planted near the end of January. The water came up in February, and the darn things sprouted and even had tadpoles sitting on their leaves underwater. It hasn't rained much since then, and now the daylilies are far from the water. They haven't bloomed yet, but they seem to be growing as well as the ones that weren't submerged. Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Hell hath no fury like a bird in the hand. |
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Galen Hekhuis wrote:
They [snakes] are incredibly fast and sneaky, and get a frog every now and then, but the frogs are also fast and extremely wary, and get away much more often than not. It's almost enough to make you pity the snake. Indeed. I once watched a large bullfrog fight a mud snake. The frog sat on a rock, and the snake circled him in the water for at least 15 minutes. Either one could probably have eaten the other - though whether the snake could have made it to shore with that bullfrog inside, is doubtful! The snake would make periodic lunges, but the frog always seemed to know when he would try, and the snake wasn't having any success. The garter snakes around home probably have a much simpler time with the toads - a frog in or near water is much more agile than on dry land. Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA Hell hath no fury like a bird in the hand. LOL! I have a colleague who's an avid birder and runs a banding station in Nova Scotia - while he knows how to handle them, he has great stories about new banders and their injuries :-) -- derek |
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Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from
my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious. Fortunately they are fairly easy to catch but they only come out at night. I have a headstrapped flashlight and a handheld flashlight. When I hear them squawking I go out and find them. Usually when found you can just snatch them up fairly easily especially if you keep a light pointed at their eyes. As punishment I take them to my screened in porch and let my cats play with them until I put them into their container. The cats don't hurt them, and it gives me a bit of satisfaction. The only thing my pond attracts that sounds worse than a tree frog is toads, but I've only had 1 night of toads in the pond. They are slow and extremely easy to catch. |
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On 29 May 2006 13:06:33 -0700, "scs0" wrote:
Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious. I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan ----------------- (Do you know where your water quality is?) |
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In , on 05/29/06
at 04:47 PM, ~ janj said: Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious. I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada. Seven springs now. Unfair! Alan -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Please use address alanh77[at]comcast.net to reply via e-mail. ** Posted using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 and eComStation 1.21 BBS - The Nerve Center Telnet FidoNet 261/1000 tncbbs.no-ip.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Frogs in ponds
*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.
wrote in message .net... In , on 05/29/06 at 04:47 PM, ~ janj said: Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious. I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada. Seven springs now. Unfair! Alan ======================= You must either live in the city or the desert somewhere. If you lived near middle TN I can give you all the frogs, toads and water snakes you would ever desire. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 rec.pond's FAQ are at: http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html Rude or obscene messages posted by my impersonator. ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from
my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious. I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada. Seven springs now. Unfair! Alan And I can't understand why any one would be upset with the music of randy frogs.... the problem as I see it is, people get bothered by 1 or 2, because they sound like kids jumping on old-style bed springs. If they'd let the numbers build up it becomes white noise. Too bad original poster doesn't live next to my neighbors who also hate frogs, so I have to go out and catch my tree frogs once the numbers go above 2. If they were smart they'd put in their own pond, that way they couldn't hear my frogs over their own. hehehe. ;o) ~ jan ----------------- (Do you know where your water quality is?) |
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scs0 wrote:
The only thing my pond attracts that sounds worse than a tree frog is toads, but I've only had 1 night of toads in the pond. Worse? The eastern (Gray?) Tree Frogs that I used to get were far worse than toads. A toad can only trill for about 10-15 seconds (though they don't take much of a breath before the next round!) but the tree frogs go much longer _and_ louder. Still I love the sound. Right now, the Spring Peepers (and an occasional toad) are deafening around my house. -- derek |
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Frogs in ponds
Yea, and I would turn your ****ing sorry ass in for selling or harrassing natural fauna...you ****ing dumbassed bitch. On Mon, 29 May 2006 21:19:33 -0500, "Koi-Lo" none wrote: *Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups. wrote in message cast.net... In , on 05/29/06 at 04:47 PM, ~ janj said: Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious. I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada. Seven springs now. Unfair! Alan ======================= You must either live in the city or the desert somewhere. If you lived near middle TN I can give you all the frogs, toads and water snakes you would ever desire. |
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Frogs in ponds
Stomp the **** out of them, its neat how they pop and splatter over
the ground or concrete.... On 29 May 2006 13:06:33 -0700, "scs0" wrote: Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious. I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 22:28:25 -0700, ~ janj
wrote: Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious. I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada. Seven springs now. Unfair! Alan And I can't understand why any one would be upset with the music of randy frogs.... the problem as I see it is, people get bothered by 1 or 2, because they sound like kids jumping on old-style bed springs. If they'd let the numbers build up it becomes white noise. Too bad original poster doesn't live next to my neighbors who also hate frogs, so I have to go out and catch my tree frogs once the numbers go above 2. If they were smart they'd put in their own pond, that way they couldn't hear my frogs over their own. hehehe. ;o) ~ jan ----------------- (Do you know where your water quality is?) The problem is some people want some fantasy version of nature like in a Disney cartoon. They haven't grown up enough to understand that nature isn't like 'Bambi'. My brother lives about 5 miles from the nearest town. Deer wander across his yard - and browse in his garden. Frogs live in the low spot in the pasture and eat insects - and sing at night. He'd rather have to buy vegtables in town than live in town. He figures deer are better neighbors than people. My in-laws bought some lakeshore land and were upset when they discovered that along with the view and the ocassional waterfowl they also got frogs, insects, muskrats, pocket gophers, a few racoons, and a lot of obnoxious fishermen who didn't understand the concept of 'Private Property'. A few discussions with the sheriff and game warden solved the fisheman problem, but they never came to terms with the wildlife. Myself, I've got a trumpet vine growing near the koi pond. In addition to providing shade and beautiful orange flowers, it attracts hummingbirds and bees. Since both seem to ignore me, they don't upset me, but a relative wants me to get rid of the vines because she knows someone allergic to bees. I suggested she could always stay away, that way she wouldn't have to worry about the bees. PlainBill |
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Frogs in ponds - nature
*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
"PlainBill" wrote in message news My brother lives about 5 miles from the nearest town. Deer wander across his yard - and browse in his garden. They do here as well unless you have a dog. The squirrels once again got all our pears. :-( Frogs live in the low spot in the pasture and eat insects - and sing at night. He'd rather have to buy vegtables in town than live in town. He figures deer are better neighbors than people. He's right. In many cases the wildlife are better neighbors. We live in a rural area and our "human" neighbors are fine people. My in-laws bought some lakeshore land and were upset when they discovered that along with the view and the ocassional waterfowl they also got frogs, insects, muskrats, pocket gophers, a few racoons, and a lot of obnoxious fishermen who didn't understand the concept of 'Private Property'. A few discussions with the sheriff and game warden solved the fisheman problem, but they never came to terms with the wildlife. Here we have city people who buy a home in a subdivision next to a farm and then complain about odors and noise early in the morning. They want to be in the country but not have all those country annoyances. Myself, I've got a trumpet vine growing near the koi pond. In addition to providing shade and beautiful orange flowers, it attracts hummingbirds and bees. Since both seem to ignore me, they don't upset me, but a relative wants me to get rid of the vines because she knows someone allergic to bees. I suggested she could always stay away, that way she wouldn't have to worry about the bees. Now there's the answer..... :-)) PlainBill -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 rec.pond's FAQ are at: http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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PlainBill wrote:
My brother lives about 5 miles from the nearest town. Deer wander across his yard - and browse in his garden. Frogs live in the low spot in the pasture and eat insects - and sing at night. He'd rather have to buy vegtables in town than live in town. He figures deer are better neighbors than people. I agree with him My in-laws bought some lakeshore land and were upset when they discovered that along with the view and the ocassional waterfowl they also got frogs, insects, muskrats, pocket gophers, a few racoons, and Man, I'll take all of them over some of the waterfowl. Though seeing the Black Duck with _twelve_ chicks in tow last night was cool, and the herons and kingfishers are always beautiful (you can tell I'm not keeping fish!). a lot of obnoxious fishermen who didn't understand the concept of 'Private Property'. Here, in Nova Scotia, there _is_ no such concept. Fishermen have complete right to wander all over my land if I have done nothing to "improve" it (ie, they can't walk over a mowed lawn or damage my fences, but since my fences are minimal (to keep the dog in) and I don't have lawn, they're pretty much free. Fortunately, my land isn't popular with them - it drives my neighbors livid! Myself, I've got a trumpet vine growing near the koi pond. In addition to providing shade and beautiful orange flowers, it attracts hummingbirds and bees. Since both seem to ignore me, they don't upset me, but a relative wants me to get rid of the vines because she knows someone allergic to bees. I know people allergic to bees to - would you please tear down that vine? [That is a _really_ odd attitude] -- derek |
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In , on 05/29/06
at 09:19 PM, "Koi-Lo" none said: And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada. Seven springs now. Unfair! ======================= You must either live in the city or the desert somewhere. If you lived near middle TN I can give you all the frogs, toads and water snakes you would ever desire. Nope - I live in suburbia, by a woods. Alan -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Please use address alanh77[at]comcast.net to reply via e-mail. ** Posted using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 and eComStation 1.21 BBS - The Nerve Center Telnet FidoNet 261/1000 tncbbs.no-ip.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Frogs in ponds - by the woods
*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.
wrote in message .net... In , on 05/29/06 at 09:19 PM, "Koi-Lo" none said: You must either live in the city or the desert somewhere. If you lived near middle TN I can give you all the frogs, toads and water snakes you would ever desire. Nope - I live in suburbia, by a woods. ================================= How odd then that you have no frogs and other critters coming to your pond. Those that came to mine may have come from a nearby farmer's stock pond and a lake less than a mile away. If you're not near any bodies of water that may account for your froglessness. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 rec.pond's FAQ are at: http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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