I put in my first 2 oz. of BZT last Monday (pond is 4500 gallons). I have a
major water problem. Murky water with floating algae (scum) which gets worse
as the day heats up. I was hoping for a miracle cure with the BZT.
I have noticed that the waterfall is crystal clear - no algae on any rocks!
The water does not seem as "dense" as it was, but it is still murky and the
algae is still floating. Can see down about 6 - 8" inches in the water.
Today I added the second dose. Will let you know. Cathy

Don't get too handy with dosing Cathy! I think the instructions
are to dose every two weeks? At least that is my understanding.

It sounds like it is working fine... but BZT is not a miracle
cure... I don't think there is such!

Relax and have a little patience.... it will work!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Szpond" wrote in message
...
I put in my first 2 oz. of BZT last Monday (pond is 4500 gallons). I have
a
major water problem. Murky water with floating algae (scum) which gets
worse
as the day heats up. I was hoping for a miracle cure with the BZT.
I have noticed that the waterfall is crystal clear - no algae on any
rocks!
The water does not seem as "dense" as it was, but it is still murky and
the
algae is still floating. Can see down about 6 - 8" inches in the water.
Today I added the second dose. Will let you know. Cathy

I put in my first 2 oz. of BZT last Monday

It did nothing for my pond back when they called it csa....they refunded my
money with out arguement. I use different brands and feel they do a better job
Jerri

http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond

It did nothing for my pond back when they called it csa

Jerri,
This is kind of what I'm thinking. How many ozs. do I use before I realize it
isn't working. I don't want them to say I used to much to request a refund?
Thanks, Cathy

Don't get too handy with dosing Cathy! I think the instructions
are to dose every two weeks?

Nedra,
The man on phone told me to use 2 1/2 oz. when received, then 2 1/2 oz. second
week, after that 1 oz. every week. As there is only 16 ozs. in the pound, it
isn't going to last long. I've been trying to be patient, this is over 4 weeks
of terrible looking mess. I firmly believe all the mating toads started this
vicious cycle. Our neighbors pond is crystal clear - he had no toads. Thanks
for the encouragement though. Cathy

Szpond wrote:
It did nothing for my pond back when they called it csa


Jerri,
This is kind of what I'm thinking. How many ozs. do I use before I realize it
isn't working. I don't want them to say I used to much to request a refund?
Thanks, Cathy


--Jerri

I have been using the BZT for two years now it works great on the
bottom sluge and helps jumpstart the filters
I use 1 tbsp per 1000 gallons every two weeks i tgo throug about two
pounds a season
if you are looking to clear green or realy turbid water it wont do it





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

good judgement comes from bad experience, and that comes from bad
judgement

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

I hate to get picky on this .... but if you used it the first time
one week ago and then again today - that is only one week...
yet you did see improvement. I say to give it some more time
but that is just me talking...... ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Szpond" wrote in message
...
Don't get too handy with dosing Cathy! I think the instructions
are to dose every two weeks?

Nedra,
The man on phone told me to use 2 1/2 oz. when received, then 2 1/2 oz.
second
week, after that 1 oz. every week. As there is only 16 ozs. in the pound,
it
isn't going to last long. I've been trying to be patient, this is over 4
weeks
of terrible looking mess. I firmly believe all the mating toads started
this
vicious cycle. Our neighbors pond is crystal clear - he had no toads.
Thanks
for the encouragement though. Cathy

Cathy, your algae problem is the same (I think) one that I had/have. It took
6 weeks for the first bout to clear up, then for some reason or other, it
started again, albeit less seriously.

Do you have a skimmer? That's the only way I can see to get rid of the
stuff. You need to catch the stuff while it's floating and get rid of it,
o'wise it sinks back down, decays, and feeds the next bloom. I have to clean
my skimmer nets 2X a day when it's like this. If you can't skim the stuff
off, I can't see how to get rid of it. Bummer.

Lee

"Szpond" wrote in message
...
I put in my first 2 oz. of BZT last Monday (pond is 4500 gallons). I have
a
major water problem. Murky water with floating algae (scum) which gets
worse
as the day heats up. I was hoping for a miracle cure with the BZT.
I have noticed that the waterfall is crystal clear - no algae on any
rocks!
The water does not seem as "dense" as it was, but it is still murky and
the
algae is still floating. Can see down about 6 - 8" inches in the water.
Today I added the second dose. Will let you know. Cathy

if you are looking to clear green or realy turbid water it wont do it


John,
Then what should I use? What can I use with the BZT??? Thanks, Cathy

Szpond wrote:
if you are looking to clear green or realy turbid water it wont do it



John,
Then what should I use? What can I use with the BZT??? Thanks, Cathy


--welllll

if its turbidity ---time ref BV's clay problem
if is suspended phyloalgaesp shade
lee and I both have delt with that same weird dark green algae that pops
up in clumps from the bottom the only thing to do with it is just keep
neting it out it seems to me to be an early summer/temprature related
thing
the water does an inversion, the bottom layer of water rises to the top
and brings that stuff with it. last year it lasted 2-3 weeks for me
this year it only lasted three days

if its the bright lime green algae with air bubbles in it a garden rake
will get it out its and overgrowth of the good string algae

I have all kinds of plants in my pond but still cant get rid of the
phyloalgae I have a bushell of duck weed on order I hope that will
provide enough shade and competition combined with my present plants to
lighten the algae a bit


sorry I cant be more encouraging and i do hope this helps you
also chck K30's green water tips




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

good judgement comes from bad experience, and that comes from bad
judgement

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

I agree with what's been said so far, one thing I'm keeping in mind is poor
John's pond has yet to get a chance to mature, before he's changing things.
;o)

Maturity (of the pond) helps. Maturity takes time with few major changes.

Regarding BZT, when it was CSA I had a major algae bloom caused by steer
manure in some planting pots, I removed the pots, did water changes, and
did something Charles called double dosing, not using double CSA/BZT but
putting the dose into a 5 gallon bucket of pond water with a couple of
teaspoons of milk and aerating over night. I also added aeration to my
filter. Crystal clear water in less than a week after doing the milk thing.
~ jan


On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:55:32 -0600, John Rutz
wrote:



Szpond wrote:
if you are looking to clear green or realy turbid water it wont do it



John,
Then what should I use? What can I use with the BZT??? Thanks, Cathy


--welllll

if its turbidity ---time ref BV's clay problem
if is suspended phyloalgaesp shade
lee and I both have delt with that same weird dark green algae that pops
up in clumps from the bottom the only thing to do with it is just keep
neting it out it seems to me to be an early summer/temprature related
thing
the water does an inversion, the bottom layer of water rises to the top
and brings that stuff with it. last year it lasted 2-3 weeks for me
this year it only lasted three days

if its the bright lime green algae with air bubbles in it a garden rake
will get it out its and overgrowth of the good string algae

I have all kinds of plants in my pond but still cant get rid of the
phyloalgae I have a bushell of duck weed on order I hope that will
provide enough shade and competition combined with my present plants to
lighten the algae a bit


sorry I cant be more encouraging and i do hope this helps you
also chck K30's green water tips




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

good judgement comes from bad experience, and that comes from bad
judgement

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
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"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message ...
Cathy, your algae problem is the same (I think) one that I had/have. It took
6 weeks for the first bout to clear up, then for some reason or other, it
started again, albeit less seriously.

Do you have a skimmer? That's the only way I can see to get rid of the
stuff. You need to catch the stuff while it's floating and get rid of it,
o'wise it sinks back down, decays, and feeds the next bloom. I have to clean
my skimmer nets 2X a day when it's like this. If you can't skim the stuff
off, I can't see how to get rid of it. Bummer.

Lee


After a good filter cleaning, my water is murky after you get down a
few inches, and the rising scummy algea takes a few days after that to
start coming up. Does that make sense? We had supended bits of
broken up aglea not long ago, after we dropped the water level and
vacuumed the bottom. We also ran the pumps with the water level down,
so that there was less volume to filter. After we refilled the pond,
it was much clearer, but had the shredded algea that I suspect was the
clumpy stuff, but broken up into fine bits. The quilt batting took
care of that. I'm going to put in some more of the batting and see if
it helps keep the stuff from rising again. We only cleaned the
filters yesterday.
Ann

The stuff is incidious. I thought mine had gone away, but its BAAAAACk! Not
as bad as earlier this year when the liner actually got bare in places, but
enough to be floating in the water. The first time I got it was a few years
ago; it skippped last year. There would be "islands" of algae that floated
up to the surface from the bottom during the day when the water was warm. At
night, it sunk back down as the water cooled. It clogged up everything. This
year, when it returned, the "islands" weren't as large, they were smaller;
sometimes the alage would clump, sometimes it was just suspended in the
water column. When I net it out, it looks like the tiny pieces of broccoli
that break off when you steam it, the individual flowers. When it's in the
skimmer filters, it's a very dark green, almost black clump of gunk. UV has
no affect on it. It's not the "pea soup" algae. I don't know what it is. And
I can't make it go away.

Lee

"ann in houston" wrote in message
om...
"Lee Brouillet" wrote in message
...
Cathy, your algae problem is the same (I think) one that I had/have. It
took
6 weeks for the first bout to clear up, then for some reason or other,
it
started again, albeit less seriously.

Do you have a skimmer? That's the only way I can see to get rid of the
stuff. You need to catch the stuff while it's floating and get rid of
it,
o'wise it sinks back down, decays, and feeds the next bloom. I have to
clean
my skimmer nets 2X a day when it's like this. If you can't skim the
stuff
off, I can't see how to get rid of it. Bummer.

Lee


After a good filter cleaning, my water is murky after you get down a
few inches, and the rising scummy algea takes a few days after that to
start coming up. Does that make sense? We had supended bits of
broken up aglea not long ago, after we dropped the water level and
vacuumed the bottom. We also ran the pumps with the water level down,
so that there was less volume to filter. After we refilled the pond,
it was much clearer, but had the shredded algea that I suspect was the
clumpy stuff, but broken up into fine bits. The quilt batting took
care of that. I'm going to put in some more of the batting and see if
it helps keep the stuff from rising again. We only cleaned the
filters yesterday.
Ann