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Old 25-06-2004, 05:06 AM
Meier
 
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Just completed building a skippy filter. Has anyone tried using an
evaporative cooler pad for the filter media? Good results? Or a
reason not to?

What are you using? I hate to spend $125 for commercial floor
scrubber pads if I don't have to. What are you using and what do you
find to be effective?

Thanks!
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Old 25-06-2004, 08:03 AM
chagoi
 
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Meier wrote:
Just completed building a skippy filter. Has anyone tried using an
evaporative cooler pad for the filter media? Good results? Or a
reason not to?

What are you using? I hate to spend $125 for commercial floor
scrubber pads if I don't have to. What are you using and what do you
find to be effective?

Thanks!


Repost of 5/22 post

Check out your local Home Depot for a product called "Cobra vent".
It comes in 11.8"(299mm) wide X 20'(6.1m)long X .75"(19mm)thick roll.
It is a non woven matrix of polyester fibers bonded together.
I have used it in all of my filters and pumps, for a year now, with no
side effects. It is really stiff and easily washes out.

Some info on the product:
http://irc.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/ccmc/registry/10/12961_e.pdf

http://www.accurateroofing.com/cobra.htm

Chagoi
Mike
http://ourkoipond.com



-- Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get."
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-- See, they have this thing called a windowing system nowadays.
Comes in many flavors. Pick one: crashes-often, looks-cute
or will-make-your-head spin.

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Old 27-06-2004, 12:04 AM
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How big is your filer??? I ordered some 19" scrubber pads 5/$19. And
they seem to be working pretty well. The actual "skippy" design did not
work for me so I ran the intake into the bottom of the stock tank, got
GREAT circular flow and reduced the amount of PVC pipe and 90 degree
angles and all. I had not thought of Cobra material. If it has no
chemicals give it a whirl.

Meier wrote:
Just completed building a skippy filter. Has anyone tried using an
evaporative cooler pad for the filter media? Good results? Or a
reason not to?

What are you using? I hate to spend $125 for commercial floor
scrubber pads if I don't have to. What are you using and what do you
find to be effective?

Thanks!


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Old 27-06-2004, 05:08 AM
chagoi
 
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news.pcisys.net wrote:
How big is your filer??? I ordered some 19" scrubber pads 5/$19. And
they seem to be working pretty well. The actual "skippy" design did not
work for me so I ran the intake into the bottom of the stock tank, got
GREAT circular flow and reduced the amount of PVC pipe and 90 degree
angles and all.



I had not thought of Cobra material. If it has no
chemicals give it a whirl.


I have used the "Cobra" roof vent material for over a year now:
1. As a prefilter for my 1500 GPM pump
2. As dividers between different size biomedia in my Tetra PF-3 Filter.

with no ill affects or breakdown of the fibers.

I checked their web and MSDS sheet for info on "Cobra vent" and found no
mention of any use of any type of mold inhibitor or any other dangerous
chemicals

Mike

Chagoi
http://ourkoipond.com


Meier wrote:

Just completed building a skippy filter. Has anyone tried using an
evaporative cooler pad for the filter media? Good results? Or a
reason not to?

What are you using? I hate to spend $125 for commercial floor
scrubber pads if I don't have to. What are you using and what do you
find to be effective?

Thanks!






-- Fired! Me? NO! I only received a nice letter from Corporate
yesterday, telling me to "Depart! and apply rhythmic pressure upon
silica and diatoms".

IOW

Go! Pound sand!


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Happiness is wanting what you get."
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Old 27-06-2004, 07:03 AM
Webfoot
 
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What is a "Skippy Filter"?

Russell Mack


On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 02:28:05 -0400, chagoi
wrote:

Meier wrote:
Just completed building a skippy filter. Has anyone tried using an
evaporative cooler pad for the filter media? Good results? Or a
reason not to?

What are you using? I hate to spend $125 for commercial floor
scrubber pads if I don't have to. What are you using and what do you
find to be effective?

Thanks!


Repost of 5/22 post

Check out your local Home Depot for a product called "Cobra vent".
It comes in 11.8"(299mm) wide X 20'(6.1m)long X .75"(19mm)thick roll.
It is a non woven matrix of polyester fibers bonded together.
I have used it in all of my filters and pumps, for a year now, with no
side effects. It is really stiff and easily washes out.

Some info on the product:
http://irc.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/ccmc/registry/10/12961_e.pdf

http://www.accurateroofing.com/cobra.htm

Chagoi
Mike
http://ourkoipond.com



-- Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get."
Dave Gardner.

-- See, they have this thing called a windowing system nowadays.
Comes in many flavors. Pick one: crashes-often, looks-cute
or will-make-your-head spin.


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Old 27-06-2004, 06:16 PM
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"Webfoot" wrote in message
...
What is a "Skippy Filter"?

Russell Mack


It is a biological filter made from a rubbermaid tank. Basically an upflow
filter. Skippy had the plans on skippysstuff.com. He passed away and his
site is now down. Maybe somebody copied his pages?
Lot of people tried his filter. I made one myself but modified it somewhat.
JD
http://www2.itexas.net/jdstone/


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Old 27-06-2004, 09:06 PM
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Don let me know the site is still up. For some reason my browser wouldn't
go there this morning.
Filter info at http://www.skippysstuff.com/biofiltr.htm
JD
"J.D. Stone" wrote in message
...

"Webfoot" wrote in message
...
What is a "Skippy Filter"?

Russell Mack


It is a biological filter made from a rubbermaid tank. Basically an upflow
filter. Skippy had the plans on skippysstuff.com. He passed away and his
site is now down. Maybe somebody copied his pages?
Lot of people tried his filter. I made one myself but modified it

somewhat.
JD
http://www2.itexas.net/jdstone/




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Old 09-07-2004, 07:02 PM
Meier
 
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chagoi wrote in message ...
Meier wrote:
Just completed building a skippy filter. Has anyone tried using an
evaporative cooler pad for the filter media? Good results? Or a
reason not to?

What are you using? I hate to spend $125 for commercial floor
scrubber pads if I don't have to. What are you using and what do you
find to be effective?

Thanks!


Repost of 5/22 post

Check out your local Home Depot for a product called "Cobra vent".
It comes in 11.8"(299mm) wide X 20'(6.1m)long X .75"(19mm)thick roll.
It is a non woven matrix of polyester fibers bonded together.
I have used it in all of my filters and pumps, for a year now, with no
side effects. It is really stiff and easily washes out.

Some info on the product:
http://irc.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/ccmc/registry/10/12961_e.pdf

http://www.accurateroofing.com/cobra.htm

Chagoi
Mike
http://ourkoipond.com



-- Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get."
Dave Gardner.

-- See, they have this thing called a windowing system nowadays.
Comes in many flavors. Pick one: crashes-often, looks-cute
or will-make-your-head spin.


Hi All!

A special thanks to Mike for his cobra vent idea. It had to be
special ordered from Home Depot so we picked it up at a roofing supply
company. Sunday will be two weeks since we installed it and it is
really doing the trick...definitely made a believer of us regarding
the filter material and the skippy filter itself.

I now have another question. Has anyone tried "Mosquito Dunks"
http://www.marchbiological.com/L/mosquito_control.html in their skippy
filter and/or pond. If so, any detrimental effect on the bacterial
filtering system? Would you advise not using them? I ask this
because we have covered our stock tank with a clear sheet of
plexiglass. Looking through the plexiglass we see tiny mosquitoes and
don't want to contribute to the West Nile problem in this area.

Thanks!
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Old 09-07-2004, 07:02 PM
Ka30P
 
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Meier wrote
I now have another question. Has anyone tried "Mosquito Dunks"

A
HREF="http://www.marchbiological.com/L/mosquito_control.html"http://www.m
archbiological.com/L/mosquito_control.html/A in their skippy
filter and/or pond. If so, any detrimental effect on the bacterial
filtering system? Would you advise not using them? I ask this
because we have covered our stock tank with a clear sheet of
plexiglass. Looking through the plexiglass we see tiny mosquitoes and
don't want to contribute to the West Nile problem in this area.

Mosquito dunks are fine for ponds and with West Nile in some communities you
can never be too 'safe' as some people will never believe a fish pond can be
without mosquitoes so you'll be safe from busybodies turning you in.
The larva or insects you are seeing under the plexiglass could be any number of
other insect larva as 5,000 different insects spend part or all of their lives
in water.

here is a good picture of mosquito larva
http://www.characin.com/carey/journa...-larva_800.jpg
The key to IDing them is that they must spend all their time at the surface in
order to breath which is why they like stagnant, fishless water. Others types
of larva have gills, usually at their hind ends, and don't have to hang out on
the surface.






kathy :-)
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Old 14-07-2004, 11:03 PM
Meier
 
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chagoi wrote in message ...
Meier wrote:
Just completed building a skippy filter. Has anyone tried using an
evaporative cooler pad for the filter media? Good results? Or a
reason not to?

What are you using? I hate to spend $125 for commercial floor
scrubber pads if I don't have to. What are you using and what do you
find to be effective?

Thanks!


Repost of 5/22 post

Check out your local Home Depot for a product called "Cobra vent".
It comes in 11.8"(299mm) wide X 20'(6.1m)long X .75"(19mm)thick roll.
It is a non woven matrix of polyester fibers bonded together.
I have used it in all of my filters and pumps, for a year now, with no
side effects. It is really stiff and easily washes out.

Some info on the product:
http://irc.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/ccmc/registry/10/12961_e.pdf

http://www.accurateroofing.com/cobra.htm

Chagoi
Mike
http://ourkoipond.com



-- Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get."
Dave Gardner.

-- See, they have this thing called a windowing system nowadays.
Comes in many flavors. Pick one: crashes-often, looks-cute
or will-make-your-head spin.


Hi All!

A special thanks to Mike for his cobra vent idea. It had to be
special ordered from Home Depot so we picked it up at a roofing supply
company. Sunday will be two weeks since we installed it and it is
really doing the trick...definitely made a believer of us regarding
the filter material and the skippy filter itself.

I now have another question. Has anyone tried "Mosquito Dunks"
http://www.marchbiological.com/L/mosquito_control.html in their skippy
filter and/or pond. If so, any detrimental effect on the bacterial
filtering system? Would you advise not using them? I ask this
because we have covered our stock tank with a clear sheet of
plexiglass. Looking through the plexiglass we see tiny mosquitoes and
don't want to contribute to the West Nile problem in this area.

Thanks!
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Ka30P
 
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Meier wrote
I now have another question. Has anyone tried "Mosquito Dunks"

A
HREF="http://www.marchbiological.com/L/mosquito_control.html"http://www.m
archbiological.com/L/mosquito_control.html/A in their skippy
filter and/or pond. If so, any detrimental effect on the bacterial
filtering system? Would you advise not using them? I ask this
because we have covered our stock tank with a clear sheet of
plexiglass. Looking through the plexiglass we see tiny mosquitoes and
don't want to contribute to the West Nile problem in this area.

Mosquito dunks are fine for ponds and with West Nile in some communities you
can never be too 'safe' as some people will never believe a fish pond can be
without mosquitoes so you'll be safe from busybodies turning you in.
The larva or insects you are seeing under the plexiglass could be any number of
other insect larva as 5,000 different insects spend part or all of their lives
in water.

here is a good picture of mosquito larva
http://www.characin.com/carey/journa...-larva_800.jpg
The key to IDing them is that they must spend all their time at the surface in
order to breath which is why they like stagnant, fishless water. Others types
of larva have gills, usually at their hind ends, and don't have to hang out on
the surface.






kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html
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