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newbie asking questions
Greetings from a newbie who wants to do it right...
I have inherited a few rootings (the rose rooted into the ground, and Grandpa cut it from the plant, so I have at least a partial root system), and since this is a "family" rose (it was brought here from Georgia by my great grandma, who got a cutting from her mama... and now I have a piece from my grandma).... so I want to do this rigt the first time... The facts" I live in the mid/south Mississippi area 39406 zip... We have a mostly sunny spot to plant it... We live in a rather clay rich area at the bottom of the hills - we have a plugged up ditch that almost never runs out of water, so there are drainage issues. The rooting has been sitting in the bucket for over a week now, while I "discussed" a location to put it with my mother. - the location is at the end of the driveway where it will have sun most of the day. I have no idea which of my ideas are correct and which aren't - I am still enough of a newbie to realize I do not know everything. I would like advice as to how to plant this rose that my grandmother calls a "Georgia Wild Rose", and keep it healthy. Thanks... Tony |
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Bear Drummer wrote:
Greetings from a newbie who wants to do it right... We have a mostly sunny spot to plant it... That's what you want since all roses do better in full sun than anywhere else. We live in a rather clay rich area at the bottom of the hills - we have a plugged up ditch that almost never runs out of water, so there are drainage issues. Roses don't like wet feet so away from permanently wet ares are best. Make your hole as big (and deep) as you reasonably can and supplement the soil with lots of organic matter. This will help with drainage as long as you are not creating a clay tub filled with nice soil. The rooting has been sitting in the bucket for over a week now, while I "discussed" a location to put it with my mother. - the location is at the end of the driveway where it will have sun most of the day. If it has roots, you can keep it alive in the bucket for quite a while but it will do better in the ground so plant it sooner, rather than later if you can. Also, don't let the water in the bucket get too old. Replace with fresh water every day or two. Hope it goes well. -- Henry |
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I am afraid that the "clay tub filled with nice soil" is exactly what
anywhere in the yard would be. I am The lady next door, who has nice roses, told me to just dig a hole, and put it in.... That is how she does it. I am hoping for a little more info for my wee little brain... |
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"Bear Drummer" wrote in message
ups.com... Greetings from a newbie who wants to do it right... I have inherited a few rootings (the rose rooted into the ground, and Grandpa cut it from the plant, so I have at least a partial root system), and since this is a "family" rose (it was brought here from Georgia by my great grandma, who got a cutting from her mama... and now I have a piece from my grandma).... so I want to do this rigt the first time... The facts" I live in the mid/south Mississippi area 39406 zip... We have a mostly sunny spot to plant it... Good. As Henry said, roses like sun. We live in a rather clay rich area at the bottom of the hills - we have a plugged up ditch that almost never runs out of water, so there are drainage issues. Can you raise the planting bed? Either by mounding up the soil or using paving stones or cut up landscape timbers. We've had several major floods here since I put my rose beds in (late 1998) and my raised beds did fine. I'm also living in a heavy clay area. My raised beds are only partial, BTW. I use three levels of landscape timbers which raises the bed about 9" above ground level (and dig down at least another 9"). The rooting has been sitting in the bucket for over a week now, while I "discussed" a location to put it with my mother. - the location is at the end of the driveway where it will have sun most of the day. I've done some rose cuttings and what I usually do is move the "baby" into a small pot with some good potting soil (like Schultz Professional Grow Mix) and then keep it damp (and usually in partial shade) until it starts growing. Once it seems established I gradually move it into full sun. Then I wait until it is well established to plant it in the ground. In your case, I probably wouldn't plant until fall. That would also give you time to get the rose's final planting hole ready and for the soil to settle (and earthworms to find it g). I have no idea which of my ideas are correct and which aren't - I am still enough of a newbie to realize I do not know everything. Nobody does. I don't use rooting hormone, but rather use seaweed, if you can find it locally. But others swear by rooting hormone. Since yours already has some roots it probably doesn't need it. I would like advice as to how to plant this rose that my grandmother calls a "Georgia Wild Rose", and keep it healthy. Thanks... Tony If it's well established before going into the ground, and you can work out the drainage, then it should do ok. Those "wild roses" tend to be really hardy. I have a pink rose that a co-worker's mother-in-law tried to kill for years (obviously she never tried Roundup) but it kept coming back. The co-worker gave me a cutting. I treated it as mentioned above. That was about 6 years ago. It's one of the healthiest roses of my 150 roses, and I don't even know what it is! Good luck - Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 |
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Can you raise the planting bed? Either by mounding up the
soil or using paving stones or cut up landscape timbers. Not without a serious fight with my mother.... not that she wouldn't want the rose to be healthy, it is just that I am between jobs, and she doesn't have extra money for timbers or soil.... have a promising interview tomorrow, but the bucket has been sitting for quite some time already, and I don't think waiting the weeks necessary would be advisable... |
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BearDrummer wrote:
I am afraid that the "clay tub filled with nice soil" is exactly what anywhere in the yard would be. I am The lady next door, who has nice roses, told me to just dig a hole, and put it in.... That is how she does it. I am hoping for a little more info for my wee little brain... Obviously without seeing your site, I'm just guessing here but if you have a lot that slopes, you can dig a hole and then dig out the downhill side until it is opened up. Then make the bottom of that hole slop down a bit so that water doesn't pool in the bottom. Fill the whole thing up and tamp it down well, replanting grass on the downward slop, if you like. Then, dig a small hole in the newly filled hole to plant your rose. Does that make sense? The idea is to produce something that doesn't fill up with water. Also, to build a raised bed, you don't have to spend money if you can find some rocks that can be used to surround the area. Dig your hole and fill with better soil. Then, pile up some rocks around that hole and fill the area inside the circle of rocks with more soil. Depending on the size and shape of the rocks you can build enough height to make a difference. -- Henry |
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I have no supplies to do so with... and the whole ground is mostly
clay, and flat... the hills I mentioned are extremely gradual things, and not part of my yard. I don't have access to rocks, and can't afford better soil, other than a small bag I had left over from before... I am in a pickle evidently... My sister and I planted the rose yesterday, we dug a big hole and mixed the dirt from my grandfather's well mulched yard along with the leftover 10 pound bag of soil from me planting my herb boxes a while back. Hopefully it will work... Since I am starting work today, hopefully the lack of funding won't be as big a problem in the near future... |
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