In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Uncle Marvo wrote:

I saw a wicked rosemary in a pub garden this weekend, mine has gone
all straggly. Do these things get old, like people? If you cut them
right back, do they get a new lease of life, or is it time for the
compost bin?

They do get old sadly. You can't cut them into old wood they will not
come back. However I have kept some less straggly ones by bringing
some soil up around them, so they rooted and created more shoots. But
that's not for very old plants. I kept many for years in a dry area
of my front garden, with lavenders amongst them. I had moved them
from the old house ...so imagine how ancient they were. Eventually I
put them on the bonfire and that gave me a craving for some lamb ....
))

They said I could nick some from the pub. Presumably I can just grab a
handful and shove it in some compost, like most med plants? I've still got a
potful on the boat, that'll do for tonight.

Uncle Marvo wrote:
They said I could nick some from the pub. Presumably I can just grab a
handful and shove it in some compost, like most med plants? I've still got a
potful on the boat, that'll do for tonight.

Indeedee. And it's the right time to do it. I didn't use hormone
rooting powder either when taking my cuttings for rooting - just made a
lil' hole and planted them. I did 250 plants which all sold for 3.99
this year. Sadly, not me money. Just cut of a nice soft green shoot
from top of stem - as green as you can find, about 2/3 inches, but try
to cut at a slant so that as much of the stem get into contact with the
compost when planted. It ensures more roots forming.

Boat ... you got a boat?!

Me too. There's nothing violent about giving stroppy women a sound spanking
though.

Well done, Uncle Marvo. You just made me laugh/snort coffee out of my
nose which is always difficult to explain at work...

In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Uncle Marvo wrote:
They said I could nick some from the pub. Presumably I can just grab
a handful and shove it in some compost, like most med plants? I've
still got a potful on the boat, that'll do for tonight.

Indeedee. And it's the right time to do it. I didn't use hormone
rooting powder either when taking my cuttings for rooting - just made
a lil' hole and planted them. I did 250 plants which all sold for 3.99
this year. Sadly, not me money. Just cut of a nice soft green shoot
from top of stem - as green as you can find, about 2/3 inches, but try
to cut at a slant so that as much of the stem get into contact with
the compost when planted. It ensures more roots forming.

Boat ... you got a boat?!

I've got a boat, whereas you've got a house.

I wouldn't swap for the world though.

In reply to Bazzler ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Me too. There's nothing violent about giving stroppy women a sound
spanking though.

Well done, Uncle Marvo. You just made me laugh/snort coffee out of my
nose which is always difficult to explain at work...

I can only speak as I find.

But nevertheless it is unarguable.

Speaking of which, I was just about to make a coffee but the kitchen has
been dismantled and put in a skip. Weird place, this.

In article ,
K wrote:

John McMillan writes

No-one has mentioned gooseberries which have vicious thorns.

Actually, for maximum deterrence the plants not only need thorns
but should be clearly seen to have them.

My favourites are Rubus Cockburnianus (ghost bramble)
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/4179.html/
and Rosa Omiensis Pteracantha (r.sericea pteracantha)
http://www.rosesloubert.com/collecti...20omeiensis%20
pteracantha.jpg
which has very scary looking blood red thorns.

They're scary looking but they're kittens compared with gooseberry,
pyracantha and even hawthorn


I think that was my point. Its largely psychological deterrence
you want so scary looking is better. Having said that, its probably
worth growing a mixture of these things.

Vicious! I hate more the taste than what nature has given them.
Never mind. One of my favourite fruits actually.

But
it's not going to help the Serene. It's the access to a roof if I
remember it right. Gooseberries are quite low, aren't they?

They normally start life as 30cm shrubs but can grow to 1.5m bushes
in a few years, depending on type. They're not climbers certainly.
Planting them at the bottom of drainpipes or other structures you don't
want people to access is a good move.
They take quite a lot of shade, don't seem to
mind poor soil. And if you don't want to eat the fruit, the birds will.
A huge visual improvement on razor wire, broken glass, spike topped walls
etc etc.

In reply to John McMillan ) who wrote
this in , on the subject
of goosegogs, I, Marvo, say :

Vicious! I hate more the taste than what nature has given them.
Never mind. One of my favourite fruits actually.

I have never found a use for a gooseberry. Greengages are wonderful but only
in jam.

Obv JMHO.

I expect some suggestions ...

Uncle Marvo wrote:
I have never found a use for a gooseberry. Greengages are wonderful but only
in jam.
Obv JMHO.
I expect some suggestions ...

Tart.

In article . com,
"La Puce" wrote:

Uncle Marvo wrote:
I have never found a use for a gooseberry. Greengages are wonderful but only
in jam.
Obv JMHO.
I expect some suggestions ...

Tart.
Fool.

"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
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In reply to John McMillan ) who wrote
this in , on the
subject of goosegogs, I, Marvo, say :

Vicious! I hate more the taste than what nature has given them.
Never mind. One of my favourite fruits actually.

I have never found a use for a gooseberry. Greengages are wonderful but
only in jam.

Obv JMHO.

I expect some suggestions ...

Crumble, pie, stewed with hot Birds custard................
Jenny

"John McMillan" wrote in message
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In article . com,
"La Puce" wrote:

Uncle Marvo wrote:
I have never found a use for a gooseberry. Greengages are wonderful but
only
in jam.
Obv JMHO.
I expect some suggestions ...

Tart.
Fool.

Whine

http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/request100.asp
Jenny

"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
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In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:
Judith do not rise to the bait. Silly School Girl games again from
Puce.

You seem to very much enjoy this. You always pop up when the silly
school girls are fighting. What have you been growing lately Rupert?
Or are you only interested in the fights?

I'm currently designing a new bed, rectangular, surrounded by
lavenders, rosemaries and box (each ends). Any spacing advices?
Perhaps that's a new thread and also perhaps over your head.

I'd keep a distance between the lavender and the rosemary. Lamb and
lavender doesn't sound a great combination.

http://www.scranit.com/recipes/view/506 ..............well the dumplings
sound good :~))

I saw a wicked rosemary in a pub garden this weekend, mine has gone all
straggly. Do these things get old, like people? If you cut them right
back, do they get a new lease of life, or is it time for the compost bin?

Don't think they re-grow from old wood ................
Jenny

"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
...
In reply to everybody who is having an argument I, Uncle Marvo, say this :

"OI!" Stop it at once. What's it all about, eh? This is what I see,
correct me if I'm wrong ...

Sacha, JennyC, Janet and Ms Puce have all got the hump with each other,
for reasons I cannot fathom, because my poor old urgling software doesn't
see what has gone before. And some people side with some of them, and some
with some others. For whatever reason.

Hormones perhaps ?!?!?!? "~)
jenny

I see two ways forward, one is that I put them all over my knee and give
them a sound spanking, the other is ... no, can't think of another one.

I quite like urg and urglers and urgling, there is some sound advice on
here (if only one could work out which of the posts are sound advice and
which are the demented ramblings of an amateur such as I) and surely it is
for this that urg *is*, n'est-ce pas? There is always more than one
answer, and if one takes all the replies it may be that the most
appropriate answer is an "out-of-the-box" one, not the one that one would
find if one looked it up in the RHS tome or, perish the thought,
Wikipaedia!

There.
That is all.

"JennyC" wrote in message
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Sacha, JennyC, Janet and Ms Puce have all got the hump with each other,


All female I hasten to point out :-))

Hand bags at dawn?

Time

and

time

and

time

again

:-((

Mike


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Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

"JennyC" wrote in message
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"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
...
In reply to everybody who is having an argument I, Uncle Marvo, say this
:

"OI!" Stop it at once. What's it all about, eh? This is what I see,
correct me if I'm wrong ...

Sacha, JennyC, Janet and Ms Puce have all got the hump with each other,
for reasons I cannot fathom, because my poor old urgling software
doesn't
see what has gone before. And some people side with some of them, and
some
with some others. For whatever reason.

Hormones perhaps ?!?!?!? "~)
jenny

I went back to the beginning of one thread to see what sparked it, but am no
wiser. Have to say though that I would admire anyone that could pull off the
spanking idea with those combatants I know! perhaps an URG meet to allow for
getting acquainted might indeed be a good idea :~)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea