Anne Jackson writes
The message from "Alan Holmes" contains these words:

I think you are putting your ire to the wrong person, you should be
addressing Puke!

If everyone put Puke into their killfile we would not ahve to read all this.

Aye, but think about the damage she could do, with all her misleading
'advice'?

Other people would answer the question as well, and sheer weight of
numbers would help the OP work out which advice to take.
--
Kay

On 11/3/07 23:17, in article , "K"
wrote:

Anne Jackson writes
The message from "Alan Holmes" contains these
words:

I think you are putting your ire to the wrong person, you should be
addressing Puke!

If everyone put Puke into their killfile we would not ahve to read all this.

Aye, but think about the damage she could do, with all her misleading
'advice'?

Other people would answer the question as well, and sheer weight of
numbers would help the OP work out which advice to take.

As she is now in most peoples' kill files there IS no weight of numbers!
Entire threads are killed from the get-go.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

"Anne Jackson" wrote in message
...
The message from "Alan Holmes" contains these
words:

I think you are putting your ire to the wrong person, you should be
addressing Puke!

If everyone put Puke into their killfile we would not ahve to read all
this.

Aye, but think about the damage she could do, with all her misleading
'advice'?

Except that no one would see it!

Alan

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:04:43 GMT, Anne Jackson
wrote:

The message from "Alan Holmes" contains these
words:

I think you are putting your ire to the wrong person, you should be
addressing Puke!

If everyone put Puke into their killfile we would not ahve to read all
this.

Aye, but think about the damage she could do, with all her misleading
'advice'?

maybe I should put Alan in my OAP home killfile too?

Why not, go on then!

--

Martin

"June Hughes" wrote in message
...
In message , Alan Holmes
writes

"Anne Jackson" wrote in message
.. .
The message from Sacha contains these
words:
On 10/3/07 12:21, "La Puce" wrote:

On 10 Mar, 12:03, "
wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in
urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or
form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.

What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

I don't think your 'colleague' as you grandly refer to the senior
director
of URBED London, considered it a laughing matter. His reply to me
indicated
as much. Try it on once more with me and I'll have a lawyer onto you
for
harassment so fast, it will make your eyes water.

For crying out ****ing loud, Sacha! Do you EVER say something and MEAN
IT?
Are we NEVER to have any peace and quiet in here, until you finally
prove
that you are a totally unreliable LIAR!! I will admit that I breathed
a HUGE sigh of relief when I read, last Monday, that you were leaving!

This behaviour is causing people, good people, helpful people, to
abandon
this group in droves...do you think for one minute that we can't survive
without YOUR input? We managed fine before you arrived, we'll manage
fine when you leave...

Just GO AWAY, as you SAID you were doing, or take it to e-mail, or talk
through your bloody lawyers, but for crying out bloody loud GIVE US
PEACE!

I think you are putting your ire to the wrong person, you should be
addressing Puke!

If everyone put Puke into their killfile we would not ahve to read all
this.

Alan
Alan. You don't have to reply to every post here. We love you but give
some of it a rest?

Sorry, sometimes just get carried away, will you forgive me?

PS I am still waiting to hear from you about Borough Market.

Still trying to find a gap in my busy schedule!(:-)

Alan

On 12/3/07 20:42, in article , "Alan
Holmes" wrote:


"Anne Jackson" wrote in message
...
The message from "Alan Holmes" contains these
words:

I think you are putting your ire to the wrong person, you should be
addressing Puke!

If everyone put Puke into their killfile we would not ahve to read all
this.

Aye, but think about the damage she could do, with all her misleading
'advice'?

Except that no one would see it!

Alan

I'm afraid that's not so, Alan. There are newbies constantly at urg,
especially in spring and there are lurkers we know nothing about.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

In message , Sacha
writes
On 12/3/07 20:42, in article , "Alan
Holmes" wrote:


"Anne Jackson" wrote in message
...
The message from "Alan Holmes" contains these
words:

I think you are putting your ire to the wrong person, you should be
addressing Puke!

If everyone put Puke into their killfile we would not ahve to read all
this.

Aye, but think about the damage she could do, with all her misleading
'advice'?

Except that no one would see it!

Alan

I'm afraid that's not so, Alan. There are newbies constantly at urg,
especially in spring and there are lurkers we know nothing about.

But surely there are plenty of knowledgeable people around here to give
the right advice? Just because they do not know a great deal about
gardening (which goes for many of us here) doesn't mean to say newbies
are all stupid. If you don't like someone, it is surely better to
kill-file them and then if a question you can answer comes up, all you
have to do is expand the thread and see who has given answers. Saves all
the grief.
--
June Hughes

On 11 Mar, 23:17, K wrote:
Other people would answer the question as well, and sheer weight of
numbers would help the OP work out which advice to take.

Off course. But that's not what the lady wants isn't it. She wants
full control. I've been trying to get in touch with Stewart for ages
regarding his photos and articles on lavatera for my plants portfolio.
Sadly I just cannot because I'm presumably killed filed because of
someone in here. And looking at all these supposedly bad advices I
gave, I'd like to see them listed. Is it the Jackman's rosemary? Is it
growing rhubbard in pots, which is still a silly idea - which one
should it be? Because if this group is there to help giving advice, I
get put down rather than being 'advised'. And I have never been told
'you might be wrong here' or 'have you thought about this'. No. I get
severe and rude language and ultimately it gets personnal. Then you
have a wondering ghost calling me puke, and that same person has been
in hundreds of people kill files for years!! How strange.

"La Puce" wrote
Sadly I just cannot because I'm presumably killed filed because of
someone in here.

Tommyrot. No-one is in charge of a anyone's killfile except themselves.
If you're in there it's because they themselves decided to put you
there.

*Do* stop trying to blame anyone and everyone except yourself for your
own responses and conduct.

And I have never been told
'you might be wrong here' or 'have you thought about this'. No. I get
severe and rude language and ultimately it gets personnal.

More distortion. Most here have longer memories than you seem to think.
All have access to archives if they need any reminders.

You've been asked politely. You've been given help. When that didn't get
through you've been told forthrightly.

Right from the outset when you started here, you had it pointed out
dozens and dozens of times how your attitude, refusal to accept being
told when you get things wrong, childish insults, name-calling and
vendettas were getting on most people's wick.

Stop pretending you're a victim, start taking responsibility for your
own actions, and *do grow up*.

--
Sue

"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...

snip

I've been trying to get in touch with Stewart for ages
regarding his photos and articles on lavatera for my plants portfolio.

Puce ,in the light of distasteful things that have happened with you and
other members you surely don't find it strange that some members wish to
steer well clear and not have themselves, their work, writings etc.
associated with you ,in any way, whatsoever.
Google archives are just too powerful.

On 13 Mar, 10:35, "Sue" wrote:
Most here have longer memories than you seem to think.
All have access to archives if they need any reminders.

No - you cannot show me where my advices have been wrong other than
showing me posts where people took it in a personnal way and dragged
family and work in the process. I have never given a bad advice. The
first argument here was about cordyline - I had suggested the use of
copper though it would have required a large ring indeed. Then there
was the 'frost in Manchester' where I was told we had it until end of
May which is untrue. But then again someone who doesn't live here
argued with me and started talking about my organisation. And it goes
on and on you see. It's not about advice, it's about personnalities
and yes, I give as good as I get.

Still - it doesn't really matter as long as you stop saying that I
give bad advice or show me the proof. It's only fair.

"La Puce" wrote
On 13 Mar, 10:35, "Sue" wrote:
Most here have longer memories than you seem to think.
All have access to archives if they need any reminders.

No - you cannot show me where my advices have been wrong other than
showing me posts where people took it in a personnal way and dragged
family and work in the process. I have never given a bad advice.The
first argument here was about cordyline - I had suggested the use of
copper though it would have required a large ring indeed. Then there
was the 'frost in Manchester' where I was told we had it until end of
May which is untrue. But then again someone who doesn't live here
argued with me and started talking about my organisation. And it goes
on and on you see. It's not about advice, it's about personnalities
and yes, I give as good as I get.

Still - it doesn't really matter as long as you stop saying that I
give bad advice or show me the proof. It's only fair.

You have a very selective memory about your own actions. There are
numerous incidents, as we all know.

One of the very earliest I remember was about rhododendrons and how long
they take to flower from seed. See the thread titled 'shrub ID please'
from November 2005. Read your own responses in that one. It's got
steadily worse since.

QED.

And while we're on the subject of what you do, and before I give up a
lost cause - another of your unattractive traits is quoting info culled
wholesale from websites, but without giving a reference or
acknowledgement of the author, and thus giving the false impression it's
your own work or knowledge. You've been picked up on that too, but it
still happens, e.g. there was a question about agapanthus varieties
IIRC.

--
Sue

On 13 Mar, 18:20, "Sue" wrote:
One of the very earliest I remember was about rhododendrons and how long
they take to flower from seed. See the thread titled 'shrub ID please'
from November 2005.

Oh I remember indeed! It was a plant ID - it was a rhodo and Ruppert
thought it was a skimmia. Then he realised it wasn't. I then thought
about potash since it didn't flower and because it was a rhodo from
seed and it was very young I did mentioned that it took 2 to 3 years
to flower from seeds, which they do. And indeed it degenerated - I had
a kneejerk reaction there because I was told I was misleading in
capital letters. I got annoyed because I knew I was right. And who
gave me agro? The same very person who is still giving me agro now.

As for quoting without giving references - I've been studying for 4
years now and I'm surrounded with references books and notes form
college etc. I'm even trying to get hold of copyrighted material and I
can't, as you've seen!! I grow a lot of plants too and agapanthus
happens to be one. Perhaps next time I should just phone or email a
friend who runs a nursery and ask him or her or their spouse and tell
you about it that way. Is it more acceptable? Pah!! It's ridiculous
really.

Sue writes

"La Puce" wrote
Sadly I just cannot because I'm presumably killed filed because of
someone in here.

Tommyrot. No-one is in charge of a anyone's killfile except themselves.
If you're in there it's because they themselves decided to put you
there.

*Do* stop trying to blame anyone and everyone except yourself for your
own responses and conduct.

And I have never been told
'you might be wrong here' or 'have you thought about this'. No. I get
severe and rude language and ultimately it gets personnal.

You were the first to get personal (with your talk of women with
moustaches), which is why I kf-ed you many months ago.
--
Kay

On 13 Mar, 20:16, K wrote:
You were the first to get personal (with your talk of women with
moustaches), which is why I kf-ed you many months ago.

Is this a good reason? In my workplace we called women with moustaches
those women who are robbust and in high ranks. It has nothing to do
with what they look like - just that they've become less feminine,
harsh and similar to men in this 'man's world'. I can't recall when I
said it, but it wasn't anything to do with look since I'd seen none of
the faces in urg (until recently when someone posted a link to a past
meet).

I think there's been a lot of confusion, it could even be a culture
misunderstanding - I only wish I was taken as lightly as some people
here, who have recently posted a lot of rude words and have also been
thanked if not encouraged for it. Let's be totally honest now then.