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I read somewhere that this could be used to help 'cure' colds.

Where will I find some?

Is it easy to grow?

How does one use it to make this miracle 'cure'?



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"Alan Holmes" wrote:

I read somewhere that this could be used to help 'cure' colds.


AKA Purple Coneflower. Used as a tincture or a tea; supposedly bolsters
the immune system. I consider the claims suspect; you can do as you
wish...


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On 26/6/07 22:41, in article , "Alan
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I read somewhere that this could be used to help 'cure' colds.

Where will I find some?

Is it easy to grow?

How does one use it to make this miracle 'cure'?



Buy it at the chemist in a little bottle, Alan. Add drops to water - works
for me. Recent research seems to show that it does indeed help with colds
and their symptoms.

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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:22:48 +0100
Sacha wrote:

On 26/6/07 22:41, in article , "Alan
Holmes" wrote:


I read somewhere that this could be used to help 'cure' colds.

Where will I find some?

Is it easy to grow?

How does one use it to make this miracle 'cure'?



Buy it at the chemist in a little bottle, Alan. Add drops to water - works
for me. Recent research seems to show that it does indeed help with colds
and their symptoms.


Sometimes available in capsule form, as well.

My wife's been taking it in winter for years, only break by oncologist's advice
during a recent bout with cancer.

She swears by it and practically resisted a good gloat when I showed her the
article, bless her. I think there are some other earlier studies that showed no
effect, IIRC, but she believes it reinforces immune response.

All this means that when I catch a cold I usually have to take it. Nasty tasting
tincture, prefer the capsules.

E. purpurea is the most active as I recall.

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On 27/6/07 09:27, in article , "Emery
Davis" wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:22:48 +0100
Sacha wrote:

On 26/6/07 22:41, in article , "Alan
Holmes" wrote:


I read somewhere that this could be used to help 'cure' colds.

Where will I find some?

Is it easy to grow?

How does one use it to make this miracle 'cure'?



Buy it at the chemist in a little bottle, Alan. Add drops to water - works
for me. Recent research seems to show that it does indeed help with colds
and their symptoms.


Sometimes available in capsule form, as well.

My wife's been taking it in winter for years, only break by oncologist's
advice
during a recent bout with cancer.


I hope that's resolved itself satisfactorily and I'm sorry to hear of it.

She swears by it and practically resisted a good gloat when I showed her the
article, bless her. I think there are some other earlier studies that showed
no
effect, IIRC, but she believes it reinforces immune response.

All this means that when I catch a cold I usually have to take it. Nasty
tasting
tincture, prefer the capsules.

E. purpurea is the most active as I recall.

Our medical clinic has a doctor who is also trained as a homoeopath. He
recommends the tincture as being more effective than the capsules but I
don't know why. I've heard others say the same.

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In reply to Sacha ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Our medical clinic has a doctor who is also trained as a homoeopath.
He recommends the tincture as being more effective than the capsules
but I don't know why. I've heard others say the same.


I have a suspicion that only real nasty-tasting medicine does any good.
That's why the tincture is so effective.

I find if I put the requisite fifteen drops (and a few for luck) in about
half a pint of water and then gulp it all at once, as if it were my first
pint of beer of the day, I can't taste it at all.


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On 27 Jun, 11:15, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:
I find if I put the requisite fifteen drops (and a few for luck) in about
half a pint of water and then gulp it all at once, as if it were my first
pint of beer of the day, I can't taste it at all.


Uncle! "... as if it was my first pint of the day ..."? When *is* your
first pint then?! Why don't you also try the test below to see if
you're taking the right dose. I'be taken Echinacea for years with
Golden Seal roots (hydrastis canadensis) and I'm convince it works.

Here the science bit .... "Echinacea has in fact been used by America
Indians for hundreds of years. It is native to the North America
Plains, but varieties of the species are now found on most continents.
Echinacea increases levels of properdin, a chemical which activates
the part of the immune system responsible for increasing defence
mechanisms against virus and bacteria attacks. Its anti-bacterial
effect makes it a good herb for treating many viral and bacterial
infections. Echinacea is also an excellent blood cleanser, it helps to
sweep dead cells and other debris through the channels of the
lymphatic system. And dispatches white blood cells to fight the
infection. The best test to determine if you are taking a good, high
strength echinacea is the tongue test. After you have taken the
tincture, the back of your tongue should feel numb or tingly. This
feeling will soon pass, but you know you are using a good quality
product. So when you feel the cold coming on - reach for the echinacea
tincture. It is important to try to take echinacea before the full
onset of a cold or flu to give the best chance of a swift recovery."

No treatment of colds would be complete without Garlic ... but that's
another story innit ;o)

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"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
...
In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 27 Jun, 11:15, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:
I find if I put the requisite fifteen drops (and a few for luck) in
about half a pint of water and then gulp it all at once, as if it
were my first pint of beer of the day, I can't taste it at all.


Uncle! "... as if it was my first pint of the day ..."? When *is* your
first pint then?! Why don't you also try the test below to see if
you're taking the right dose. I'be taken Echinacea for years with
Golden Seal roots (hydrastis canadensis) and I'm convince it works.

Bon apres-midi, ma belle :-)

Beer is not *just* a breakfast drink.

[snip]

No treatment of colds would be complete without Garlic ... but that's
another story innit ;o)


There is no life without garlic. Most meals should have garlic in them,
and the quantity of other ingredients should never exceed the quantity of
garlic.

I have an excellent breast-of-chicken recipe which calls for four *head*
of garlic. Not four cloves. It is superb, and you don't even need to peel
them. It came from the writer Rosalind Buttered-Crumpet
(
http://backtrack.org/rbc/) who is a genius cook, though not perhaps to
everyone's tastes.



I bet he hasn't got many friends! :-)

David.


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In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
...
In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say
:
On 27 Jun, 11:15, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:
I find if I put the requisite fifteen drops (and a few for luck) in
about half a pint of water and then gulp it all at once, as if it
were my first pint of beer of the day, I can't taste it at all.

Uncle! "... as if it was my first pint of the day ..."? When *is*
your first pint then?! Why don't you also try the test below to see
if you're taking the right dose. I'be taken Echinacea for years with
Golden Seal roots (hydrastis canadensis) and I'm convince it works.

Bon apres-midi, ma belle :-)

Beer is not *just* a breakfast drink.

[snip]

No treatment of colds would be complete without Garlic ... but
that's another story innit ;o)


There is no life without garlic. Most meals should have garlic in
them, and the quantity of other ingredients should never exceed the
quantity of garlic.

I have an excellent breast-of-chicken recipe which calls for four
*head* of garlic. Not four cloves. It is superb, and you don't even
need to peel them. It came from the writer Rosalind Buttered-Crumpet
(
http://backtrack.org/rbc/) who is a genius cook, though not perhaps
to everyone's tastes.



I bet he hasn't got many friends! :-)

I have hundreds, but they're all French.


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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:04:50 +0100
Sacha wrote:

I hope that's resolved itself satisfactorily and I'm sorry to hear of it.


Thanks Sacha. It's in remission and all seems well for now. (knock on wood).

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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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I read somewhere that this could be used to help 'cure' colds.

Where will I find some?

Is it easy to grow?

How does one use it to make this miracle 'cure'?


Thanks for all the responses, will go and buy some and see how I get on!



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"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
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In reply to Gary Woods ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

"Alan Holmes" wrote:

I read somewhere that this could be used to help 'cure' colds.


AKA Purple Coneflower. Used as a tincture or a tea; supposedly
bolsters
the immune system. I consider the claims suspect; you can do as you
wish...

I am usually sceptical about homeopathic stuff like this.


It's *not* a homeopathic remedy! See:
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69209.cfm

Homeopathy is pure quackery and homeopathic remedies fraudulent!
Graham


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