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On Dec 23, 2:14 pm, "Angela" wrote:
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I recently had a crown reduction done on my silver birch, the tree sugeon
wouldn't even consider doing it untill after the leaves had mostly fallen
as
he siad they bleed so badly you really can only prune in the autumn


Isn't that slightly different from what another poster said? I
thought that perhaps, after reading the posts above, that they were
similar to plum which can only be pruned when the sap is rising?

Judith

No absolutely not, silver birches apparently bleed profusely. I'm only
telling what a professional tree surgeon said and he had no reason to lie,
he could very well have lost the job if I hadn't believed him and just got
somebody to do it in the summer


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"Angela" wrote:

Isn't that slightly different from what another poster said? I
thought that perhaps, after reading the posts above, that they were
similar to plum which can only be pruned when the sap is rising?


No absolutely not, silver birches apparently bleed profusely. I'm
only telling what a professional tree surgeon said and he had no
reason to lie, he could very well have lost the job if I hadn't believed
him and just got somebody to do it in the summer


A neighbour of our very stupidly had their silver birches (savagely)
pruned last summer, and the following morning it looked as if they'd
had a new water feature installed!




Could it not have been a sap extraction wine source gone drastically wrong
?
Little holes and corks is the common method iirc.

Regards
Pete (;-)


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On Dec 23, 9:30*pm, Emery Davis wrote:
Judith in France wrote:
On Dec 23, 2:14 pm, "Angela" wrote:
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...
|
| "Judith in France" wrote in message
...
| I arrived home in France today to see my beloved Silver Birch, I have
| about a dozen but 2 were very damaged with the weight of snow on their
| branches. *They are drooping, like a willow, will they recover or will
| I need to prune, severely in Spring?
|
| If you do prune do NOT do it in spring but early summer when the sap has
| stopped running! *Same for maples.
| Graham
| (in W. Canada where the temperature has been dropping to -30C at night
over
| the last 10 days or so)


I recently had a crown reduction done on my silver birch, the tree sugeon
wouldn't even consider doing it untill after the leaves had mostly fallen as
he siad they bleed so badly you really can only prune in the autumn


Isn't that slightly different from what another poster said? *I
thought that perhaps, after reading the posts above, that they were
similar to plum which can only be pruned when the sap is rising?


Hi Judith,

Don't prune in spring, the bleeding will be serious. *Autumn or winter
is the time. *But I think yours are best left alone, they do spring back
quite a bit.

Cheers for Christmas,

-E


Hi Emrys, the broken branches won't spring back though. At lunch
yesterday, one of the guests, a chap who lives in Spain is a tree
doctor and his wife a landscape gardener, I had a lovely time talking
to them. He said, cut off the branch whilst the tree is dormant and
leave the rest to spring back into shape.

Happy Christmas back to you and yours. p.s. Emrys, totally off topic,
but I posed a question re tax in a French group, can you point me to
one as you live in France too?

Judith
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Judith in France wrote:
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Happy Christmas back to you and yours. p.s. Emrys, totally off topic,
but I posed a question re tax in a French group, can you point me to
one as you live in France too?


Hi Judith,

You are confusing me, as is easy to do here, with almost eponymous
urg regular Emrys Davies. (I suspect Emrys has greener fingers than
I, so I wouldn't want to give any of my advice the same weight as his.)
My moniker is Yankeefied: Emery Davis. (Actually my great-great
grandfather was a Russian emigrant, when he pronounced his name at
Ellis island in NY the dumbfounded clerk asked "Waddaya want,
Davis, Smith or Jones?" But that's another story!).

I don't know of a French-English tax forum. I have a couple of
accountants, one of whom specializes in international, I could
give you the number if you email me off line. (Reverse this and
remove the ats and dots: moctodakledatayreme). I believe my UK
taxable friends are not perceptible from French income in France,
but are required by treaty to declare it in the UK. Whether
they prefer to fly under the radar is another question. (Of course
if questions of VAT are concerned, it must be charged and remitted
in France for French sales; you would need to speak to an accountant
about that.)

Yes sounds like your Birches need a hack. Perfect time right now,
it must be cold at your house, the ground is even a little crunchy
(but still mostly squishy) here! It's pruning not planting for me
today.

-E
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On 22 Dec, 23:06, Judith in France
wrote:
I arrived home in France today to see my beloved Silver Birch, I have
about a dozen but 2 were very damaged with the weight of snow on their
branches. *They are drooping, like a willow, will they recover or will
I need to prune, severely in Spring?


I would take care to remove any limbs that have split or cracked, to
avoid scars or entry of disease, but otherwise they should be fine.

Mine have been hacked mercilessly when branches intruded over the path
or attempted to strangle the telephone wires, and they shrug it off
and grow furiously to replace what has been lost,

In theory you should do it at the end of the growing season or just as
the new one starts, i.e. not now - but they will normally cope with
just about anything if well established.

If you had yours in an elegant candle-flame outline that can be quite
difficult to restore, as they will regrow pretty much at an angle to
the cut if you leave buds between the stem and the cut. But I have
heard of people doing it by pruning over several years.


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On Dec 26, 12:52*pm, Emery Davis wrote:
Judith in France wrote:

[]

Happy Christmas back to you and yours. *p.s. Emrys, totally off topic,
but I posed a question re tax in a French group, can you point me to
one as you live in France too?


Hi Judith,

You are confusing me, as is easy to do here, with almost eponymous
urg regular Emrys Davies. *(I suspect Emrys has greener fingers than
I, so I wouldn't want to give any of my advice the same weight as his.)
My moniker is Yankeefied: *EmeryDavis. *(Actually my great-great
grandfather was a Russian emigrant, when he pronounced his name at
Ellis island in NY the dumbfounded clerk asked "Waddaya want,
Davis, Smith or Jones?" *But that's another story!).

I don't know of a French-English tax forum. *I have a couple of
accountants, one of whom specializes in international, I could
give you the number if you email me off line. (Reverse this and
remove the ats and dots: moctodakledatayreme). *I believe my UK
taxable friends are not perceptible from French income in France,
but are required by treaty to declare it in the UK. *Whether
they prefer to fly under the radar is another question. *(Of course
if questions of VAT are concerned, it must be charged and remitted
in France for French sales; you would need to speak to an accountant
about that.)

Yes sounds like your Birches need a hack. *Perfect time right now,
it must be cold at your house, the ground is even a little crunchy
(but still mostly squishy) here! *It's pruning not planting for me
today.

-E


Thanks for the advice Emery, what confusion, I wonder if I will ever
be able to tell you apart. I am correct in thinking that Emrys also
lives in France??? Now who else lives here who posts in urg?

Judith
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On Dec 28, 8:07*am, AriesVal
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:42:32 -0800 (PST), Judith in France wrote:
On Dec 26, 12:52*pm, Emery Davis wrote:
[35 quoted lines suppressed]


Thanks for the advice Emery, what confusion, I wonder if I will ever
be able to tell you apart. *I am correct in thinking that Emrys also
lives in France??? *Now who else lives here who posts in urg?


Judith


If you look at the headers Judith, you'll notice both men spell their names
differently. *The particular poster you're replying to spells his name Emery
Davis, the other E.D spells his surname with an e - Davies - and his
Christian name is slightly different too - being Emrys. *Confusing innit

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Thanks Val, but unfortunately one doesn't see headers in Google unless
one clicks on stuff. Both Emerys and Emerys know I have made this
mistake in years past so I can't even claim creeping old age for this
one. Fortunately they make allowances for me, I had a lovely email
from one this morning, duh which? I'll go and click on headers LOL.

Judith
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On Dec 26, 2:35*pm, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:52:02 +0100, Emery Davis wrote:
Judith in France wrote:
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Happy Christmas back to you and yours. *p.s. Emrys, totally off topic,
but I posed a question re tax in a French group, can you point me to
one as you live in France too?


Hi Judith,


You are confusing me, as is easy to do here, with almost eponymous
urg regular Emrys Davies. *(I suspect Emrys has greener fingers than
I, so I wouldn't want to give any of my advice the same weight as his.)
My moniker is Yankeefied: *Emery Davis. *(Actually my great-great
grandfather was a Russian emigrant, when he pronounced his name at
Ellis island in NY the dumbfounded clerk asked "Waddaya want,
Davis, Smith or Jones?" *But that's another story!).


I don't know of a French-English tax forum. *I have a couple of
accountants, one of whom specializes in international, I could
give you the number if you email me off line. (Reverse this and
remove the ats and dots: moctodakledatayreme). *I believe my UK
taxable friends are not perceptible from French income in France,
but are required by treaty to declare it in the UK. *Whether
they prefer to fly under the radar is another question. *(Of course
if questions of VAT are concerned, it must be charged and remitted
in France for French sales; you would need to speak to an accountant
about that.)


Like other EU nationals, British nationals pay tax in the country where they are
domiciled, avoidance of double taxation agreements between EU member states
sorts out the rest.

Forums for Expatshttp://www.expatica.com/forum/index.php?showforum=205
--

Martin


As always another of my heros comes to my rescue, thanks Martin, I
will study this as I have an interview with the tax people who are
trying to claim tax on my 2 pensions for the entire year of 2007
although I came to live in France full time 1st October 2007 and I had
paid tax in the UK. I still pay tax in the UK.and I can't afford to
be taxed twice so many thanks for the link.

Judith
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Le Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:42:32 -0800 (PST), Judith in France a utilisé son
clavier pour dire :

I am correct in thinking that Emrys also
lives in France??? Now who else lives here who posts in urg?


And don't forget frenchies reading urg...
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On Dec 29, 6:11*pm, Neuneu le Jardinier
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Le Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:42:32 -0800 (PST), Judith in France a utilisé son
clavier pour dire :

I am correct in thinking that Emrys also
lives in France??? *Now who else lives here who posts in urg?


And don't forget frenchies reading urg...
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Bonsoir and welcome, how lovely to see a new face. Will you tell us
about your garden and where it is?

Judith


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Le Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:48:02 -0800 (PST), Judith in France a utilisé son
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And don't forget frenchies reading urg...
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Bonsoir and welcome, how lovely to see a new face. Will you tell us
about your garden and where it is?

Judith


I'm afraid my english is too poor to post detailed messages.
I'm in Charente (new english colony)
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On Dec 30, 8:58*am, Neuneu le Jardinier
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Le Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:48:02 -0800 (PST), Judith in France a utilisé son
clavier pour dire :

And don't forget frenchies reading urg...
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Salut la compagnie


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Bonsoir and welcome, how lovely to see a new face. *Will you tell us
about your garden and where it is?


Judith


I'm afraid my english is too poor to post detailed messages.
I'm in Charente (new english colony)
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Mon Beau Jardin est derrière La Grille Vertehttp://www.la-grille-verte.net


Your English seems pretty good to me. I know what you mean about a
new English colony. We came to live in the Auvergne to avoid that,
very few English live here. We didn't meet another English person
buying a home here for at least 15 years, thank goodness. Do you grow
Melons?????

Judith
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On 30/12/08 11:32, in article ,
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:09:53 -0800 (PST), Judith in France
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snip

. Do you grow
Melons?????


'Allo 'Allo code phrase for meet me in the shrubbery?


Charentais from the Charente ring a bell? ;-))

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Le Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:09:53 -0800 (PST), Judith in France a utilisé son
clavier pour dire :

On Dec 30, 8:58*am, Neuneu le Jardinier
wrote:
Le Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:48:02 -0800 (PST), Judith in France a utilisé son
clavier pour dire :

And don't forget frenchies reading urg...
--
Salut la compagnie


Mon Beau Jardin est derrière La Grille Vertehttp://www.la-grille-verte.net


Bonsoir and welcome, how lovely to see a new face. *Will you tell us
about your garden and where it is?


Judith


I'm afraid my english is too poor to post detailed messages.
I'm in Charente (new english colony)
--
Salut la compagnie

Mon Beau Jardin est derrière La Grille Vertehttp://www.la-grille-verte.net


Your English seems pretty good to me. I know what you mean about a
new English colony. We came to live in the Auvergne to avoid that,
very few English live here. We didn't meet another English person
buying a home here for at least 15 years, thank goodness. Do you grow
Melons?????

Judith


I tried, without any success. A little bit too cold I guess. Professionals
have them under plastic tunnels. That's better in Charente Maritime.
And maybe also the fact I am in the vines. The ground is pretty poor.
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