I'm lifting early potatoes now; what should I do with the foliage?

Thinking of the compost bin, I'm fearful of blight. There is no evidence
of blight on the foliage, though I have been spraying with Dithane.

Best regards,

Jon C.

--
Jonathan Campbell www.jgcampbell.com BT48, UK.

On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:22:54 +0100, Jonathan Campbell wrote:

I'm lifting early potatoes now; what should I do with the foliage?

Thinking of the compost bin, I'm fearful of blight. There is no evidence
of blight on the foliage, though I have been spraying with Dithane.

And you're going to eat all that fungicide residue? Yuck.

How many Smith periods have you had recently?

Jonathan Campbell wrote:
I'm lifting early potatoes now; what should I do with the foliage?

Thinking of the compost bin, I'm fearful of blight. There is no evidence
of blight on the foliage, though I have been spraying with Dithane.

Best regards,

Jon C.


I always put my potato foliage in the compost and can't say as I've
noticed any problems. There is very little I don't compost. Even long
rooted docks and thistles go into the composters. Nothing much seems to
survive the composting process. I have those open bottomed black plastic
compost bins and they get very hot; especially with a good mix of
materials to compost and some pee to accelerate the process.

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Derek Turner wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:22:54 +0100, Jonathan Campbell wrote:

I'm lifting early potatoes now; what should I do with the foliage?

Thinking of the compost bin, I'm fearful of blight. There is no evidence
of blight on the foliage, though I have been spraying with Dithane.

And you're going to eat all that fungicide residue? Yuck.

How many Smith periods have you had recently?

I like the smell of it -- especially in the morning.

However, you make a good point; I had reacted to forecast humid weather.
The Met Office here in Ireland normally issues blight warnings, but none
so far this year.

I suppose earlies harvested before the end of June might normally escape
blight?

Jon C.

--
Jonathan Campbell www.jgcampbell.com BT48, UK.

David in Normandy wrote:
Jonathan Campbell wrote:
I'm lifting early potatoes now; what should I do with the foliage?
[...]

I always put my potato foliage in the compost and can't say as I've
noticed any problems. There is very little I don't compost. Even long
rooted docks and thistles go into the composters. Nothing much seems to
survive the composting process. I have those open bottomed black plastic
compost bins and they get very hot; especially with a good mix of
materials to compost and some pee to accelerate the process.


Thanks. That's encouraging --- it seemed a pity to put them in the black
bin.

I'm not sure my compost bin cooks that efficiently, but I'll follow your
advice.

Jon C.

--
Jonathan Campbell www.jgcampbell.com BT48, UK.

Jonathan Campbell wrote:


I suppose earlies harvested before the end of June might normally escape
blight?


My French neighbour's potatoes succumbed to blight a few weeks ago. He
has since cut off all the tops and treated them with something. Mine are
still OK. I took great delight in giving him a big bag of my (largest)
early potatoes. :-)

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subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
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On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:07:42 +0100, Jonathan Campbell wrote:

I suppose earlies harvested before the end of June might normally escape
blight?

Yes. June seldom yields Smith periods. Living, as I now do, in Jersey
with a very changeable maritime climate I think it very unlikely we will
have Smith periods. The general rule seems to be 'if you don't like the
weather don't worry: it will change when the tide turns'. Sustained high
temperature /and/ humidity is rare on a small island. Thats probably why
potatoes and tomatoes have been our biggest exports. Sacha?

On 2009-06-16 22:37:07 +0100, Derek Turner said:

On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:07:42 +0100, Jonathan Campbell wrote:

I suppose earlies harvested before the end of June might normally escape
blight?

Yes. June seldom yields Smith periods. Living, as I now do, in Jersey
with a very changeable maritime climate I think it very unlikely we will
have Smith periods. The general rule seems to be 'if you don't like the
weather don't worry: it will change when the tide turns'. Sustained high
temperature /and/ humidity is rare on a small island. Thats probably why
potatoes and tomatoes have been our biggest exports. Sacha?

Sea breezes are healthy things that see off overall 'mugginess', I'd
think. Of course, the mild climate of the islands and Jersey's
north-south slope helped with early tomatoes and potatoes back in the
days before refrigerated container shipping, so their chief competitors
were the Cornish with much the same conditions. Daffs and iris were
also a good market at one time, as were freesias grown under glass and
of course, grapes, hence tomato glasshouses being called vineries to
this day. The weather is certainly changeable - it was colder in
Jersey than in Exeter when we arrived on Friday morning and we put on
sweaters - no, not Jerseys. ;-) And then it became extremely hot
about 2 hours later but with some cloud and showers occasionally and
remained hot all week end. And on boarding the plane, we learned
yesterday that Exeter area had big thunderstorms and lots of rain,
something that missed the CIs altogether. Talking to farming friends
in St Helier yesterday, we were told that this year has been an
outstanding success for the Jersey Royal and that a lot of farmers who
had given up for various semi-political reasons have now bought up land
which is going for frightening sums of money and are going back into
growing potatoes, though not into dairy. We were trying to figure out
how many Royals you'd have to sell to make it worthwhile! BUT another
friend who grows a few vergees of potatoes for his own enjoyment is a
great fan of Dunbar potatoes which do have a fabulous flavour. But he
says they do get blight, even in Jersey, so perhaps the Royal and the
original Jersey Sunrise tom were more resistant?
--
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

Sacha wrote:
On 2009-06-16 22:37:07 +0100, Derek Turner said:

On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:07:42 +0100, Jonathan Campbell wrote:

I suppose earlies harvested before the end of June might normally
escape blight?

Yes. June seldom yields Smith periods. Living, as I now do, in Jersey
with a very changeable maritime climate I think it very unlikely we
will have Smith periods. The general rule seems to be 'if you don't
like the weather don't worry: it will change when the tide turns'.
Sustained high temperature /and/ humidity is rare on a small island.
Thats probably why potatoes and tomatoes have been our biggest
exports. Sacha?

Sea breezes are healthy things that see off overall 'mugginess', I'd
think. Of course, the mild climate of the islands and Jersey's
north-south slope helped with early tomatoes and potatoes back in the
days before refrigerated container shipping, so their chief
competitors were the Cornish with much the same conditions. Daffs and
iris were also a good market at one time, as were freesias grown
under glass and of course, grapes, hence tomato glasshouses being
called vineries to this day. The weather is certainly changeable -
it was colder in Jersey than in Exeter when we arrived on Friday
morning and we put on sweaters - no, not Jerseys. ;-) And then it
became extremely hot about 2 hours later but with some cloud and
showers occasionally and remained hot all week end. And on boarding
the plane, we learned yesterday that Exeter area had big
thunderstorms and lots of rain, something that missed the CIs
altogether. Talking to farming friends in St Helier yesterday, we
were told that this year has been an outstanding success for the
Jersey Royal and that a lot of farmers who had given up for various
semi-political reasons have now bought up land which is going for
frightening sums of money and are going back into growing potatoes,
though not into dairy. We were trying to figure out how many Royals
you'd have to sell to make it worthwhile! BUT another friend who
grows a few vergees of potatoes for his own enjoyment is a great fan
of Dunbar potatoes which do have a fabulous flavour. But he says
they do get blight, even in Jersey, so perhaps the Royal and the
original Jersey Sunrise tom were more resistant? --

Most enjoyable post! Welcome home

On 2009-06-17 09:38:24 +0100, "Ophelia" said:

Sacha wrote:
On 2009-06-16 22:37:07 +0100, Derek Turner said:

On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:07:42 +0100, Jonathan Campbell wrote:

I suppose earlies harvested before the end of June might normally
escape blight?

Yes. June seldom yields Smith periods. Living, as I now do, in Jersey
with a very changeable maritime climate I think it very unlikely we
will have Smith periods. The general rule seems to be 'if you don't
like the weather don't worry: it will change when the tide turns'.
Sustained high temperature /and/ humidity is rare on a small island.
Thats probably why potatoes and tomatoes have been our biggest
exports. Sacha?

Sea breezes are healthy things that see off overall 'mugginess', I'd
think. snip

Most enjoyable post! Welcome home

Thank you. It was a short but really lovely visit ending with a family
lunch for 20 at a super local restaurant (Café de la Poste, Derek,
though off your beaten track!) We were intrigued to see how far ahead
some plants were but on the other hand, the Embothrium in my son's
garden is still flowering, while ours went over a couple of weeks ago.
I don't understand that because CI gardens are usually about 4 weeks or
more ahead of UK gardens. Their veg garden is yielding loads of
courgettes, carrots, potatoes (of course!) and the sweet peas are
flowering magnificently. Ray found some huge 'apples' on some of the
Camellias and has brought them home in the faint hope they'll ripen.
He took some cuttings from a Salvia we'd given them but have since
'lost' and he hopes that their Stauntonia will fruit again this year so
that we get lots of lovely seeds. We're also promised more of their
ever-green Agapanthus. My son and daughter in law can't abide them and
I adore them, so lucky us!
--
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

In message , Sacha
writes


It was a short but really lovely visit ending with a family lunch for
20 at a super local restaurant (Café de la Poste, Derek, though off
your beaten track!) We were intrigued to see how far ahead some
plants were but on the other hand, the Embothrium in my son's garden is
still flowering, while ours went over a couple of weeks ago. I don't
understand that because CI gardens are usually about 4 weeks or more
ahead of UK gardens. Their veg garden is yielding loads of courgettes,
carrots, potatoes (of course!) and the sweet peas are flowering
magnificently. Ray found some huge 'apples' on some of the Camellias
and has brought them home in the faint hope they'll ripen. He took
some cuttings from a Salvia we'd given them but have since 'lost' and
he hopes that their Stauntonia will fruit again this year so that we
get lots of lovely seeds. We're also promised more of their ever-green
Agapanthus. My son and daughter in law can't abide them and I adore
them, so lucky us!

Sounds lovely Sacha. I have only seen Jersey from the air and you have
tempted me.
--
June Hughes

On 2009-06-17 10:27:16 +0100, June Hughes
said:

In message , Sacha
writes


It was a short but really lovely visit ending with a family lunch for
20 at a super local restaurant (Café de la Poste, Derek, though off
your beaten track!) We were intrigued to see how far ahead some
plants were but on the other hand, the Embothrium in my son's garden is
still flowering, while ours went over a couple of weeks ago. I don't
understand that because CI gardens are usually about 4 weeks or more
ahead of UK gardens. Their veg garden is yielding loads of courgettes,
carrots, potatoes (of course!) and the sweet peas are flowering
magnificently. Ray found some huge 'apples' on some of the Camellias
and has brought them home in the faint hope they'll ripen. He took
some cuttings from a Salvia we'd given them but have since 'lost' and
he hopes that their Stauntonia will fruit again this year so that we
get lots of lovely seeds. We're also promised more of their ever-green
Agapanthus. My son and daughter in law can't abide them and I adore
them, so lucky us!

Sounds lovely Sacha. I have only seen Jersey from the air and you have
tempted me.

Avoid July and August, IMO because it's terribly crowded then and the
Battle of Flowers is always held on the second Thursday in August,
ensuring great crowds. I think the 'shoulder' months are loveliest,
April, May, September, October. In October Jersey can get some really
beautiful weather, and if it's been a good summer the sea is still
warm. From a gardening pov, not many of the really good gardens are
open to the public regularly, though Samares Manor is worth seeing. In
the summer months there used to be a charity open-garden scheme for an
organisation called the Jersey Association for Youth and Friendship.
If JAYF is still doing it, this opens some wonderful private gardens up
for one Sunday and there's usually around 10 or 12 of them, IIRC.
Derek will know if that's still running. Strangely - and I've never
understood why - Jersey has no botanic garden and it really should
have. It was mooted at one point but the authorities wouldn't cough up
the cash, or so I understand and it never got off the ground.
--
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:54:42 +0100, Sacha wrote:

From a gardening pov, not many of the really good gardens are
open to the public regularly, though Samares Manor is worth seeing. In
the summer months there used to be a charity open-garden scheme for an
organisation called the Jersey Association for Youth and Friendship. If
JAYF is still doing it, this opens some wonderful private gardens up for
one Sunday and there's usually around 10 or 12 of them, IIRC. Derek will
know if that's still running.

It is. In the light of recent events doesn't the title of that
organization seem, how shall we put it, suspect? Probably founded in the
time when you could write a book called 'Scouting for Boys' and nobody
laughed.

On 2009-06-17 11:11:04 +0100, Derek Turner said:

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:54:42 +0100, Sacha wrote:

From a gardening pov, not many of the really good gardens are
open to the public regularly, though Samares Manor is worth seeing. In
the summer months there used to be a charity open-garden scheme for an
organisation called the Jersey Association for Youth and Friendship. If
JAYF is still doing it, this opens some wonderful private gardens up for
one Sunday and there's usually around 10 or 12 of them, IIRC. Derek will
know if that's still running.

It is. In the light of recent events doesn't the title of that
organization seem, how shall we put it, suspect? Probably founded in the
time when you could write a book called 'Scouting for Boys' and nobody
laughed.

My ex-mother in law was one of the founders. ;-) So no, I don't think
I'd suspect her of anything horrible! IIRC, the founding of the
charity came about because someone came to the island and gave a talk
on the gap between younger children in care and those slightly older
ones of 16 - 21, moving into adult life but still needing support and
secure places to live.
We were talking to the farming friends about all this recent nastiness
and knowing some of the personalities inivolved rather well, even being
related to one of the chief proponents, they feel a certain politician
has a large axe to grind. And of course, the media really has had a
field day. Talk of an isolated clliff top when you can see the houses
next door to Haut de la Garenne is really irresponsibly over-dramatic.
--
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

In message , Sacha
writes
On 2009-06-17 10:27:16 +0100, June Hughes
said:

In message , Sacha
writes


It was a short but really lovely visit ending with a family lunch
for 20 at a super local restaurant (Café de la Poste, Derek, though
off your beaten track!) We were intrigued to see how far ahead
some plants were but on the other hand, the Embothrium in my son's
garden is still flowering, while ours went over a couple of weeks
ago. I don't understand that because CI gardens are usually about 4
weeks or more ahead of UK gardens. Their veg garden is yielding
loads of courgettes, carrots, potatoes (of course!) and the sweet
peas are flowering magnificently. Ray found some huge 'apples' on
some of the Camellias and has brought them home in the faint hope
they'll ripen. He took some cuttings from a Salvia we'd given them
but have since 'lost' and he hopes that their Stauntonia will fruit
again this year so that we get lots of lovely seeds. We're also
promised more of their ever-green Agapanthus. My son and daughter
in law can't abide them and I adore them, so lucky us!
Sounds lovely Sacha. I have only seen Jersey from the air and you
have tempted me.

Avoid July and August, IMO because it's terribly crowded then and the
Battle of Flowers is always held on the second Thursday in August,
ensuring great crowds. I think the 'shoulder' months are loveliest,
April, May, September, October. In October Jersey can get some really
beautiful weather, and if it's been a good summer the sea is still
warm. From a gardening pov, not many of the really good gardens are
open to the public regularly, though Samares Manor is worth seeing. In
the summer months there used to be a charity open-garden scheme for an
organisation called the Jersey Association for Youth and Friendship.
If JAYF is still doing it, this opens some wonderful private gardens up
for one Sunday and there's usually around 10 or 12 of them, IIRC.
Derek will know if that's still running. Strangely - and I've never
understood why - Jersey has no botanic garden and it really should
have. It was mooted at one point but the authorities wouldn't cough up
the cash, or so I understand and it never got off the ground.

Thank-you Sacha. Much appreciated.
--
June Hughes