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"June Hughes" wrote in message
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In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:34:09 +0000, June Hughes wrote:

I noticed a van in the car park delivering chicken and was surprised to
see it was quite local (the store was Southgate and the van's logo gave
an address in Enfield).

Not overly surprised, most of the big supermarkets do source some of
their fresh produce fairly locally. Most of eggs and milk in Tesco,
Carlisle has a branded Scottish orgin, same for some of the veg,
potatoes and carrots spring to mind.

Carlisle as in Cumbria? If that is where you mean, I used to love their
indoor market. Is it still there and are there still the lovely fresh
produce stalls there, please?
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June Hughes

Good place to buy haggis too, as I recall (I know, not a vegetable)
:-)
R.


Yes. Only my daughter and I like it here. the other three are southern
softies but I don't tell them that
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June Hughes

"Zhang Dawei" wrote in message
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'Mike' wrote:

You failed to add that the rare 'Anti Clockwise Haggis' i.e. those
which run round the hills and mountain in an anti clockwise
direction and have shorter legs on the left, are a delicacy compared
to the more common 'Clockwise Haggis' which has the shorter legs on
the right

We are non-discriminatory, and favour either sub-species. That's why I
made no comment about clockwise or anti-clockwise haggis or on which
side the legs were shorter.

I must go now and feed my three-legged pig ("Why does it have three
legs?" you may ask. The answer is quite simple: one doesn't eat an
animal of the quality we have all in one go!)

lol
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:24:53 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote:

So have the suppliers been banned from selling their broccoli from the
door or even pick your own! Surely they could sell the remainder to
organic box companies or even put a note in the local paper!

Can only sell to organic box suppliers if the produce *is* organic.
Unless you are suggesting that they don't bother with such a minor
detail?

I believe that some of the conditions that the supermarkets impose
are effectively that, sell to us or plough back in, you can't sell to
anyone else, even into the livestock feed market or at the road side.
Along with the we contracted you for for £150/tonne 9 months ago but
the market has changed and we can only get 70% markup now instead of
90%, so we are only going to pay you £100/tonne. It cost you
£120/tonne to produce, sorry you have contract to supply you have to
take our price or dump it.

There has been a voluntary code of practice for a while to get such
sharp practices but it's not really been taken up so an ombudsman is
being created. Wether said ombudsman has nay teeth is another
matter...

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Cheers
Dave.

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and the final question is .......

'Have you ever seen a poor Farmer?'

NO

'Crying wolf' come to mind
--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk

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from "'Mike'" contains these words:

and the final question is .......

'Have you ever seen a poor Farmer?'

NO

'Crying wolf' come to mind

I suggest you come to Wales and meet some hill farmers. Just look at the
suicide rate for farmers and the reasons for suicide and you'll soon
realise that there are terible promlems in the industry.

I'm not saying that all farmers are poor, those with enough capital and
expertise can flip between modes of farming to squeeze every available
subsidy going.

Roger T

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from "Dave Liquorice" contains these words:

I was including the inedible skins and the stuff that hasn't been
consumed before becoming a new life form in our small bin/week
amount. No way is that 1/3rd of all the food coming in for family of
four/week. It's rarely full and has several inches of paper shredings
in the bottom as well.

If the average is 1/3rd there must be a lot of people binning 1/3rd
of their food.


I'm reminder of the Jamie Oliver programme some while back, highlighting
he fact that there are families who, having roasted a chicken for Sunday
lunch, carve off what hey want from the breast then bin the rest!

Bring back domestic science lessons I say!

Roger T

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:04:34 GMT, RogerT wrote:

I'm reminder of the Jamie Oliver programme some while back, highlighting
he fact that there are families who, having roasted a chicken for Sunday
lunch, carve off what hey want from the breast then bin the rest!

I can believe it. When I was a lad and we had chicken there wasn't
much left other than bones. When I ate such things I didn't like the
breast, much prefered the leg or wing but there isn't much on a wing.
What was left was put ina pot with some veggies and seasoning and
simmered for a few hours to get a nice chicken stock.

Bring back domestic science lessons I say!

They still have them and do the basics but I don't think they do much
in the way of actually managing a domestic kitchen, the food and
"waste". Being a lad at school in the early 70's we did wood or metal
work when the girls did Domestic Science all the same I don't waste
anything in the kitchen. It's not what you do, it's not what my
mother did. She didn't directly teach me and I'm no where near as
good as she was in making use of scraps, it's just what you do.

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Cheers
Dave.

"RogerT" wrote in message
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The message
from "'Mike'" contains these words:

and the final question is .......

'Have you ever seen a poor Farmer?'

NO

'Crying wolf' come to mind

I suggest you come to Wales and meet some hill farmers. Just look at the
suicide rate for farmers and the reasons for suicide and you'll soon
realise that there are terible promlems in the industry.

I'm not saying that all farmers are poor, those with enough capital and
expertise can flip between modes of farming to squeeze every available
subsidy going.

Roger T

Maybe so. I am looking around the farmers here on the Isle of Wight and
listening to people who live in other parts of the country where 'IN
GENERAL' the farmers are crying wolf, and have been for a long time.


--
Mike

The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rneba.org.uk
Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?
www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk

RogerT writes

I'm reminder of the Jamie Oliver programme some while back, highlighting
he fact that there are families who, having roasted a chicken for Sunday
lunch, carve off what hey want from the breast then bin the rest!

Bring back domestic science lessons I say!

I learnt far more from my mother than from domestic science lessons. The
problem nowadays is that we've been through a period where many people
have been far shorter of time than of money, and convenience foods are a
boon. So the slower methods of preparation have been pushed into the
background, and the continuity of passing on skills has been lost.

It'll change. Just as people are re-discovering vegetable gardening,
they'll re-discover cooking and having control over what goes into their
food, and start re-learning the skills
--
Kay

Dave Liquorice writes

They still have them and do the basics but I don't think they do much
in the way of actually managing a domestic kitchen, the food and
"waste". Being a lad at school in the early 70's we did wood or metal
work when the girls did Domestic Science all the same I don't waste
anything in the kitchen. It's not what you do, it's not what my
mother did. She didn't directly teach me and I'm no where near as
good as she was in making use of scraps, it's just what you do.

I think it's what you see happening around you. I've always felt
children learn much more from observing what you do than from doing what
you tell them. If you want your children to be polite and considerate,
you behave politely and considerately to your partner and to your
children. It's no use behaving inconsiderately to your children and then
telling them off when they do the same.
--
Kay

"RogerT" wrote in message
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I'm reminder of the Jamie Oliver programme some while back, highlighting
he fact that there are families who, having roasted a chicken for Sunday
lunch, carve off what hey want from the breast then bin the rest!


I like leg meat best. And I like breast meat too. But which is best ?

Only one way to find out . . . !