I have changed the first paragraph of the welcome message to read:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening! This group is
primarily available as a Usenet newsgroup but is also ported
over to some websites such as Garden Banter and Garden Alley.
On such websites you may not get access to posting unless you
register with them but if you have a newsreader you will have
full write and answer access without any kind of registration."

Comments anyone?

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk

On Mon, 30 May 2011 Sacha wrote:

On 2011-05-30 09:53:15 +0100, David Rance
said:

I have changed the first paragraph of the welcome message to read:
"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening! This group is
primarily available as a Usenet newsgroup but is also ported
over to some websites such as Garden Banter and Garden Alley.
On such websites you may not get access to posting unless you
register with them but if you have a newsreader you will have
full write and answer access without any kind of registration."
Comments anyone?
David

Looks fine to me. Thank you for doing it, David! ;-)

Thanks, Sacha, though I'm still not sure how well it reads yet. I'll
work on it.

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk

On Mon, 30 May 2011 11:07:25 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

On Mon, 30 May 2011 Sacha wrote:

On 2011-05-30 09:53:15 +0100, David Rance
said:

I have changed the first paragraph of the welcome message to read:
"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening! This group is
primarily available as a Usenet newsgroup but is also ported
over to some websites such as Garden Banter and Garden Alley.
On such websites you may not get access to posting unless you
register with them but if you have a newsreader you will have
full write and answer access without any kind of registration."
Comments anyone?
David

Looks fine to me. Thank you for doing it, David! ;-)

Thanks, Sacha, though I'm still not sure how well it reads yet. I'll
work on it.


David, I have emailed you.

On Mon, 30 May 2011 RG wrote:

I have changed the first paragraph of the welcome message to read:
"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening! This group is
primarily available as a Usenet newsgroup but is also ported
over to some websites such as Garden Banter and Garden Alley.
On such websites you may not get access to posting unless you
register with them but if you have a newsreader you will have
full write and answer access without any kind of registration."
Comments anyone?
David

Looks fine to me. Thank you for doing it, David! ;-)

Thanks, Sacha, though I'm still not sure how well it reads yet. I'll
work on it.


David, I have emailed you.

Yes, thanks for the suggestions. I like them:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. If you do not already have
a
newsreader program you can choose one from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

There's more detail about where to find information about what
newsgroups are and how to read them which is what I wanted. Thanks, RG.

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk

On Mon, 30 May 2011 David Rance wrote:

Yes, thanks for the suggestions. I like them:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. If you do not already
have a
newsreader program you can choose one from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

There's more detail about where to find information about what
newsgroups are and how to read them which is what I wanted. Thanks, RG.

I've just realised that users of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
already have a news client available to them. So the latest version is:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. Windows Mail and
Windows Live Mail contain a newsreader client but if you do not
already have one you can choose from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk

"David Rance" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 David Rance wrote:

Yes, thanks for the suggestions. I like them:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. If you do not already have a
newsreader program you can choose one from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

There's more detail about where to find information about what newsgroups
are and how to read them which is what I wanted. Thanks, RG.

I've just realised that users of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
already have a news client available to them. So the latest version is:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. Windows Mail and
Windows Live Mail contain a newsreader client but if you do not
already have one you can choose from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk


David I think that is spot on. There will now be NO EXCUSE for people on urg
carrying on about their postings being copied elsewhere.

Mike


--

....................................
Remember, a statue has never been erected to a critic.
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"David Rance" wrote

I've just realised that users of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
already have a news client available to them. So the latest version is:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. Windows Mail and
Windows Live Mail contain a newsreader client but if you do not
already have one you can choose from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."



Looks good to me, thank you for taking the time.
I use Windows Live Mail and the newsreader is not as good as it should be,
the lack of quoted text marks being one example, but it will get anyone into
proper Newsgroups directly provided their ISP carries them. Now that is
another problem. :-)

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-05-30 14:23:31 +0100, "'Mike'" said:


"David Rance" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 David Rance wrote:

Yes, thanks for the suggestions. I like them:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. If you do not already
have a
newsreader program you can choose one from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

There's more detail about where to find information about what
newsgroups
are and how to read them which is what I wanted. Thanks, RG.

I've just realised that users of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
already have a news client available to them. So the latest version is:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. Windows Mail and
Windows Live Mail contain a newsreader client but if you do not
already have one you can choose from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk


David I think that is spot on. There will now be NO EXCUSE for people on
urg carrying on about their postings being copied elsewhere.

Mike

The most vociferous pest here on that matter is you. You're the one who
'carries on' about it every time someone posts here through Garden Banter.
The rest of us usually just answer them if we can help them and inform
them on how to access urg directly. We do NOT keep on about Garden Banter
taking our posts and using them without permission on an advertising
medium. This thread is one discussion in a very long time. --
Sacha
South Devon



I feel you should seek advice. You seem to have a severe problem which with
suitable medication, 'could' be cured.

Kindest sympathies

Mike


--

....................................
Remember, a statue has never been erected to a critic.
....................................

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-05-30 17:23:03 +0100, "'Mike'" said:



"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-05-30 14:23:31 +0100, "'Mike'"
said:


"David Rance" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 David Rance wrote:

Yes, thanks for the suggestions. I like them:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. If you do not already
have a
newsreader program you can choose one from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

There's more detail about where to find information about what
newsgroups
are and how to read them which is what I wanted. Thanks, RG.

I've just realised that users of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
already have a news client available to them. So the latest version
is:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. Windows Mail and
Windows Live Mail contain a newsreader client but if you do not
already have one you can choose from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk


David I think that is spot on. There will now be NO EXCUSE for people
on
urg carrying on about their postings being copied elsewhere.

Mike

The most vociferous pest here on that matter is you. You're the one who
'carries on' about it every time someone posts here through Garden
Banter.
The rest of us usually just answer them if we can help them and inform
them on how to access urg directly. We do NOT keep on about Garden
Banter
taking our posts and using them without permission on an advertising
medium. This thread is one discussion in a very long time. --
Sacha
South Devon



I feel you should seek advice. You seem to have a severe problem which
with
suitable medication, 'could' be cured.

Kindest sympathies

Mike

LOL! And you feel able to lecture all of us on 'personal insults'.
Hypocrisy on an epic scale! Just try piping down for a while and see if
you can *earn* some respect instead of trying to impose your nonsense on
others all the time.
--
Sacha
South Devon



:-((

As I thought. You don't recognise your problem

Folks. Be kind to her

Mike



--

....................................
Remember, a statue has never been erected to a critic.
....................................

On Mon, 30 May 2011 17:23:03 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:



"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-05-30 14:23:31 +0100, "'Mike'" said:


"David Rance" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 David Rance wrote:

Yes, thanks for the suggestions. I like them:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. If you do not already
have a
newsreader program you can choose one from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

There's more detail about where to find information about what
newsgroups
are and how to read them which is what I wanted. Thanks, RG.

I've just realised that users of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
already have a news client available to them. So the latest version is:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. Windows Mail and
Windows Live Mail contain a newsreader client but if you do not
already have one you can choose from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk


David I think that is spot on. There will now be NO EXCUSE for people on
urg carrying on about their postings being copied elsewhere.

Mike

The most vociferous pest here on that matter is you. You're the one who
'carries on' about it every time someone posts here through Garden Banter.
The rest of us usually just answer them if we can help them and inform
them on how to access urg directly. We do NOT keep on about Garden Banter
taking our posts and using them without permission on an advertising
medium. This thread is one discussion in a very long time. --
Sacha
South Devon



I feel you should seek advice. You seem to have a severe problem which with
suitable medication, 'could' be cured.

Kindest sympathies

Mike

Hmmm! You seem totally alone in your opinion but if you actually read
what others write in the numerous newsgroups that you haunt, you might
actually realise that you need to take your own advice. Trouble is
that you never seem to read what others write, only what you want to
see.

"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 17:23:03 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:



"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-05-30 14:23:31 +0100, "'Mike'"
said:


"David Rance" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 David Rance wrote:

Yes, thanks for the suggestions. I like them:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. If you do not already
have a
newsreader program you can choose one from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

There's more detail about where to find information about what
newsgroups
are and how to read them which is what I wanted. Thanks, RG.

I've just realised that users of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
already have a news client available to them. So the latest version
is:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. Windows Mail and
Windows Live Mail contain a newsreader client but if you do not
already have one you can choose from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk


David I think that is spot on. There will now be NO EXCUSE for people
on
urg carrying on about their postings being copied elsewhere.

Mike

The most vociferous pest here on that matter is you. You're the one who
'carries on' about it every time someone posts here through Garden
Banter.
The rest of us usually just answer them if we can help them and inform
them on how to access urg directly. We do NOT keep on about Garden
Banter
taking our posts and using them without permission on an advertising
medium. This thread is one discussion in a very long time. --
Sacha
South Devon



I feel you should seek advice. You seem to have a severe problem which
with
suitable medication, 'could' be cured.

Kindest sympathies

Mike

Hmmm! You seem totally alone in your opinion but if you actually read
what others write in the numerous newsgroups that you haunt, you might
actually realise that you need to take your own advice. Trouble is
that you never seem to read what others write, only what you want to
see.

and the newsgroups I 'haunt' would be?

and the postings related to your reply would be?
..
..
..
..
..
..



and another poster of the urg clique slinks off with his/her tail between
their legs

NEXT PLEASE

Mike


--

....................................
Remember, a statue has never been erected to a critic.
....................................

Please Sacha, put the idiot Mike in your killfile!

Alan


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-05-30 17:23:03 +0100, "'Mike'" said:



"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2011-05-30 14:23:31 +0100, "'Mike'"
said:


"David Rance" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 David Rance wrote:

Yes, thanks for the suggestions. I like them:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. If you do not already
have a
newsreader program you can choose one from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

There's more detail about where to find information about what
newsgroups
are and how to read them which is what I wanted. Thanks, RG.

I've just realised that users of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
already have a news client available to them. So the latest version
is:

"Welcome to any newcomers to uk.rec.gardening!

This group is designed to be used as a Usenet newsgroup.
You may be reading it via a website such as Garden Banter or
Garden Alley, which copies our messages. On such websites
you may not get access to posting unless you register with them.
With a newsreader program you have direct access to the group
without registration. You may also find that the presentation of each
message with its replies is easier to follow. Windows Mail and
Windows Live Mail contain a newsreader client but if you do not
already have one you can choose from the many offered he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders."

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://rance.org.uk


David I think that is spot on. There will now be NO EXCUSE for people
on
urg carrying on about their postings being copied elsewhere.

Mike

The most vociferous pest here on that matter is you. You're the one who
'carries on' about it every time someone posts here through Garden
Banter.
The rest of us usually just answer them if we can help them and inform
them on how to access urg directly. We do NOT keep on about Garden
Banter
taking our posts and using them without permission on an advertising
medium. This thread is one discussion in a very long time. --
Sacha
South Devon



I feel you should seek advice. You seem to have a severe problem which
with
suitable medication, 'could' be cured.

Kindest sympathies

Mike

LOL! And you feel able to lecture all of us on 'personal insults'.
Hypocrisy on an epic scale! Just try piping down for a while and see if
you can *earn* some respect instead of trying to impose your nonsense on
others all the time.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

In article , 'Mike'
writes
and another poster of the urg clique slinks off with his/her tail between
their legs

I know it does no good telling you (ad nauseam) that you are an
egocentric troll but it makes me feel better occasionally.

By all accounts, you're mature (in terms of number of years *only*); it
is possible for an old dog to learn new tricks but in your case I
wouldn't advise anyone to hold their breath.

As Jake implied - try reading and inwardly digesting other people's
posts rather than just assuming that they contain reflections of your
own rather bizarre prejudices and paranoia.

--
regards andyw

wrote in message
...
In article , 'Mike'
writes
and another poster of the urg clique slinks off with his/her tail between
their legs

I know it does no good telling you (ad nauseam) that you are an egocentric
troll but it makes me feel better occasionally.

By all accounts, you're mature (in terms of number of years *only*); it is
possible for an old dog to learn new tricks but in your case I wouldn't
advise anyone to hold their breath.

As Jake implied - try reading and inwardly digesting other people's posts
rather than just assuming that they contain reflections of your own rather
bizarre prejudices and paranoia.

--
regards andyw

:-((

Oh dear.

I do seem to set the speakers too high again :-((

I do sometimes wonder just what the IQ is of people who post here. Do they
'really' go into the negative numbers?

Kindest regards and with sincere sympathies

Mike

--

....................................
Remember, a statue has never been erected to a critic.

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