Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate was
open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a "professional"
job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall square clay pot, I
use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need some sort of protective
gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big! B'stards

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
Posting to this Newsgroup
from the W.of London. UK

In article ,
says...

Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate was
open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a "professional"
job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall square clay pot, I
use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need some sort of protective
gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big!
B'stards

You might ask the local paper to run an article on the theft, with a
pic of the plant if you have one. Makes it harder to sell, or display.

Janet.

Even better, put it on facebook. We had a carved Hare stolen from a junction
out in the country. EVERYBODY loved it and were outraged when someone put a
chain saw to it and nicked it. A posting on facebook went round the world
and all of a sudden it was found in a prominent place .......

Mike
South East Coast of the Isle of Wight where it has been a very pleasant day.

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"Janet" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate was
open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a "professional"
job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall square clay pot, I
use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need some sort of
protective
gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big!
B'stards

You might ask the local paper to run an article on the theft, with a
pic of the plant if you have one. Makes it harder to sell, or display.

Janet.

On 2014-11-15 12:39:38 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate
was open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that
was given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They
have both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a
"professional" job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall
square clay pot, I use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need
some sort of protective gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move
it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big! B'stards

Worth putting this on Facebook or Twitter, if you have accounts there,
Bob. Use photos too. I'm so sorry. What a really filthy person does
this sort of mean little trick.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

On 2014-11-15 16:02:23 +0000, Janet said:

In article ,
says...

Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate was
open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a "professional"
job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall square clay pot, I
use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need some sort of protective
gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big!
B'stards

You might ask the local paper to run an article on the theft, with a
pic of the plant if you have one. Makes it harder to sell, or display.

Janet.

At that size it won't be seen locally - far too obvious. It could be
halfway to Cornwall or Edinburgh two hours after it was stolen.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

On 15/11/2014 12:39, Bob Hobden wrote:
Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate
was open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a
"professional" job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall
square clay pot, I use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need
some sort of protective gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move
it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big! B'stards



So sorry to hear that, Bob. I hope you have reported it to the local
police, especially since the thieves were clearly well-prepared. We had
similar problems in our road a few years ago and all incidents were
reported. No-one got their plants/ornaments back, alas, but the
two-legged rats were nicked. Well worth a phone call, I'd say.
--
Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

"sacha" wrote ...

Janet said:


says...

Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate
was
open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a
"professional"
job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall square clay pot,
I
use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need some sort of
protective
gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big!
B'stards

You might ask the local paper to run an article on the theft, with a
pic of the plant if you have one. Makes it harder to sell, or display.

At that size it won't be seen locally - far too obvious. It could be
halfway to Cornwall or Edinburgh two hours after it was stolen.


That was my thought, someone has stolen it to order or it's a landscaper
wanting an architectural plant for a job (he will charge the client lots for
it too). Anyway I have e-mailed the local rag with a photo of the smaller
one in the same type of pot and given then the very sad tale, we shall see.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

"sacha" wrote ...

Bob Hobden said:

Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate
was open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a
"professional" job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall
square clay pot, I use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need
some sort of protective gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move it
away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big! B'stards

Worth putting this on Facebook or Twitter, if you have accounts there, Bob.
Use photos too. I'm so sorry. What a really filthy person does this sort
of mean little trick.

Not on Facebook any more but have mentioned it on Twitter with a photo of
the other one.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

"Spider" wrote ...

On 15/11/2014 12:39, Bob Hobden wrote:
Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate
was open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a
"professional" job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall
square clay pot, I use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need
some sort of protective gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move
it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big! B'stards



So sorry to hear that, Bob. I hope you have reported it to the local
police, especially since the thieves were clearly well-prepared. We had
similar problems in our road a few years ago and all incidents were
reported. No-one got their plants/ornaments back, alas, but the two-legged
rats were nicked. Well worth a phone call, I'd say.

They were informed by email at about 8 am this morning and phoned me back
almost immediately, caught me in the shower, to tell me there isn't much
they can do unless I can find a CCTV of them loading it or driving off with
it. The Dentist on the corner has good CCTV so I'm hopeful but have to wait
'till Monday.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 15/11/2014 21:25, Bob Hobden wrote:
"Spider" wrote ...

On 15/11/2014 12:39, Bob Hobden wrote:
Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front gate
was open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a
"professional" job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall
square clay pot, I use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need
some sort of protective gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move
it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big! B'stards



So sorry to hear that, Bob. I hope you have reported it to the local
police, especially since the thieves were clearly well-prepared. We
had similar problems in our road a few years ago and all incidents
were reported. No-one got their plants/ornaments back, alas, but the
two-legged rats were nicked. Well worth a phone call, I'd say.

They were informed by email at about 8 am this morning and phoned me
back almost immediately, caught me in the shower, to tell me there isn't
much they can do unless I can find a CCTV of them loading it or driving
off with it. The Dentist on the corner has good CCTV so I'm hopeful but
have to wait 'till Monday.



Good luck with that. We have CCTV. It does make a huge difference.

--
Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:25:13 -0000, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

They were informed by email at about 8 am this morning and phoned me back
almost immediately, caught me in the shower, to tell me there isn't much
they can do unless I can find a CCTV of them loading it or driving off with
it. The Dentist on the corner has good CCTV so I'm hopeful but have to wait
'till Monday.

Dummy CCTV cameras are good deterrents and available for less than
£10.

Steve

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On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:10:42 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:59:43 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:25:13 -0000, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

They were informed by email at about 8 am this morning and phoned me back
almost immediately, caught me in the shower, to tell me there isn't much
they can do unless I can find a CCTV of them loading it or driving off with
it. The Dentist on the corner has good CCTV so I'm hopeful but have to wait
'till Monday.

Dummy CCTV cameras are good deterrents and available for less than
£10.

High resolution steerable zoomable CCTV cameras like this
http://www.compagnieshaven.nl/webcam.html
are about £1000.

Yes I know but I said dummy CCTV like this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Byron-CS11D-.../dp/B0015A1APS

I know they work as a deterrent. My friend kept getting her new car
scratched by a jealous neighbour. A dummy CCTV camera stopped it
happening.

Steve

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EasyNN-plus More than just a neural network http://www.easynn.com
SwingNN Prediction software http://www.swingnn.com
JustNN Just a neural network http://www.justnn.com

Martin wrote:

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

Martin wrote:

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

High resolution steerable zoomable CCTV cameras like this
http://www.compagnieshaven.nl/webcam.html
are about £1000.

Yes I know but I said dummy CCTV like this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Byron-CS11D-.../dp/B0015A1APS

I know they work as a deterrent. My friend kept getting her new car
scratched by a jealous neighbour. A dummy CCTV camera stopped it
happening.

Real CCTV cameras get stolen. :-(

Have a real covert camera looking at the cheap fake camera?

On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:57:53 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:



Dummy CCTV cameras are good deterrents and available for less than
£10.

High resolution steerable zoomable CCTV cameras like this
http://www.compagnieshaven.nl/webcam.html
are about £1000.

Yes I know but I said dummy CCTV like this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Byron-CS11D-.../dp/B0015A1APS

I know they work as a deterrent. My friend kept getting her new car
scratched by a jealous neighbour. A dummy CCTV camera stopped it
happening.

Steve

Priced between those extremes some of those cameras intended for
capturing Wildlife photos can useful.
Latest generation ones can record high quality video as well. some
models will also take a cellphone sim and will send an alert or photo
to a number you choose , or you can ring the unit and download the
photos although at a lower resolution than the files stored on the SD
Card. Useful if you are on holiday. At about £ 200 -£300 you can have
more than one for the cost £1000 CCTV and they can be hidden amongst
plants.
A steerable zoomable system is of limited use unless someone is
around to steer and zoom it although some will pick movement up and
focus on it automatically. Risk is it will pick on the Burglars
Lurcher while the Burglar is out of shot so are best where there is a
person in a hut or control room like a factory or car park to
ascertain what needs looking at.
For unattended use many security advisors prefer coverage by several
fixed cameras all recording different views simultaneously.
It won't help the OP much but only this week the Harold Hillier
Gardens in Hampshire have announced they have done a similar exercise
because of thefts.
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/1159..._plant_thefts/


G.Harman

On 15/11/2014 18:48, sacha wrote:
On 2014-11-15 16:02:23 +0000, Janet said:

In article ,
says...

Went downstairs this morning at about 07.30 and noticed the front
gate was
open, looked out and there it was gone.

One of our two large Agave americana Marginata, the biggest one that was
given to me by a friend over 40+ years ago as a tiny offshoot. They have
both been in our front garden for years. Has to have been a
"professional"
job as it probably needed two to carry it in it's tall square clay
pot, I
use a wheeled truck to move it, and they would need some sort of
protective
gear, certainly needed a van or pickup to move it away.

Unfortunately I haven't got 40 years to grow another that big!
B'stards

You might ask the local paper to run an article on the theft, with a
pic of the plant if you have one. Makes it harder to sell, or display.

Janet.

At that size it won't be seen locally - far too obvious. It could be
halfway to Cornwall or Edinburgh two hours after it was stolen.

If I recall correctly the dragons on the temple at Biddulph Grange were
stolen and recovered locally, and they would have been even more obvious.


http://www.ntprints.com/image/348670...bidulph-grange