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I'm looking for ideas please for a plant to grow up against some trellising that will give cover all year round. In the Midlands. The rear garden is south facing, and there is a gate in one corner at the end. I have built a free standing trellis in front of the gate to take the eye away from it. I want to put something that will cover the trellis and hide the gate all year round - but with a variety of colour, and perhaps some flowering in the winter. That plant would be on the north face of the trellis. There is quite a lot of shade, but some sun at times during the day (on the odd occasion that it shines!!). Ideas gratefully accepted. JP |
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On 13/05/2016 18:00, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2016 11:39:45 -0500, "JIP" wrote: Hi I'm looking for ideas please for a plant to grow up against some trellising that will give cover all year round. In the Midlands. The rear garden is south facing, and there is a gate in one corner at the end. I have built a free standing trellis in front of the gate to take the eye away from it. I want to put something that will cover the trellis and hide the gate all year round - but with a variety of colour, and perhaps some flowering in the winter. That plant would be on the north face of the trellis. There is quite a lot of shade, but some sun at times during the day (on the odd occasion that it shines!!). Ideas gratefully accepted. JP You don't say how tall your trellis is, but if it's masking a gate, I assume about 6ft. I hope it's well supported with posts set good and deep, otherwise it will blow down, given a decent gale. Clematis Armandii might be good choice. Evergreen, white flowers early in the year, some perfume. http://tinyurl.com/j56th9e Or you could try Winter Jasmine, http://tinyurl.com/j56th9e. More ideas in these links http://tinyurl.com/z4todet Not being rude but why expect one plant to be so wonderful? if there was such a plant we would all be propagating it like mad, either reduce your expectations or simply plant more that one thing to achieve all the desired effects. Ie good evergreen cover plus something to gropw through it to give some flowers -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk National collections of Clematis viticella & Lapageria rosea |
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Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2016 11:39:45 -0500, "JIP" wrote: Hi I'm looking for ideas please for a plant to grow up against some trellising that will give cover all year round. In the Midlands. The rear garden is south facing, and there is a gate in one corner at the end. I have built a free standing trellis in front of the gate to take the eye away from it. I want to put something that will cover the trellis and hide the gate all year round - but with a variety of colour, and perhaps some flowering in the winter. That plant would be on the north face of the trellis. There is quite a lot of shade, but some sun at times during the day (on the odd occasion that it shines!!). Ideas gratefully accepted. JP You don't say how tall your trellis is, but if it's masking a gate, I assume about 6ft. I hope it's well supported with posts set good and deep, otherwise it will blow down, given a decent gale. Clematis Armandii might be good choice. Evergreen, white flowers early in the year, some perfume. http://tinyurl.com/j56th9e Or you could try Winter Jasmine, http://tinyurl.com/j56th9e. More ideas in these links http://tinyurl.com/z4todet Sorry, yes it's about 6 feet. The trellis has been there a long time already and is well supported. |
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Martin wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2016 11:46:40 -0500, "JIP" wrote: You don't say how tall your trellis is, but if it's masking a gate, I assume about 6ft. I hope it's well supported with posts set good and deep, otherwise it will blow down, given a decent gale. Clematis Armandii might be good choice. Evergreen, white flowers early in the year, some perfume. http://tinyurl.com/j56th9e Or you could try Winter Jasmine, http://tinyurl.com/j56th9e. More ideas in these links http://tinyurl.com/z4todet Sorry, yes it's about 6 feet. The trellis has been there a long time already and is well supported. Clematis Armandii is ideal for that. Unfortunately, it isn't even suitable. It is very vigorous, and loathes being cut back hard, so has a very limited lifetime in constrained locations. Also, depending on how exposed the place is to winter winds, it might not be hardy enough - it doesn't like freezing winds at all. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Ermin Trude wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2016 13:31:12 +0200, Martin wrote: Clematis Armandii is ideal for that. Unfortunately, it isn't even suitable. It is very vigorous, and loathes being cut back hard, so has a very limited lifetime in constrained locations. Also, depending on how exposed the place is to winter winds, it might not be hardy enough - it doesn't like freezing winds at all. What is you alternative suggestion? I wish I had one, because I have just such a requirement. I have grown 4-5 armandii, and have had to remove most because they got out of hand, and eventually died back because I was pruning them too hard (i.e. to stay in the space). The two I grew NOT against a wall both died after a winter or two, and I know other people who have had exactly the same experience (not just in Cambridge). I don't know exactly what the conditions are that causes it, but freezing winds seem a part. I grow Holboellia, Stauntonia, Lonicera henryi, Lonicera japonica, Akebia quinata and have grown others, all of which are supposed to be hardy and evergreen. None are the latter, except possibly the L. henryi (I haven't had a hard winter since I planted it). The Stauntonia and L. japonica heep their leaves, but only sort-of. I am discounting Bignonia and Clematis cirrhosa, as I have never grown those except against a wall. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Mon, 16 May 2016 14:15:54 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , Ermin Trude wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2016 13:31:12 +0200, Martin wrote: Clematis Armandii is ideal for that. Unfortunately, it isn't even suitable. It is very vigorous, and loathes being cut back hard, so has a very limited lifetime in constrained locations. Also, depending on how exposed the place is to winter winds, it might not be hardy enough - it doesn't like freezing winds at all. What is you alternative suggestion? I wish I had one, because I have just such a requirement. I have grown 4-5 armandii, and have had to remove most because they got out of hand, and eventually died back because I was pruning them too hard (i.e. to stay in the space). The two I grew NOT against a wall both died after a winter or two, and I know other people who have had exactly the same experience (not just in Cambridge). I don't know exactly what the conditions are that causes it, but freezing winds seem a part. I grow Holboellia, Stauntonia, Lonicera henryi, Lonicera japonica, Akebia quinata and have grown others, all of which are supposed to be hardy and evergreen. None are the latter, except possibly the L. henryi (I haven't had a hard winter since I planted it). The Stauntonia and L. japonica heep their leaves, but only sort-of. I am discounting Bignonia and Clematis cirrhosa, as I have never grown those except against a wall. If you don't mind prickly have you looked at a Pyracanthus? or Berberis? |
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Ermin Trude wrote: If you don't mind prickly have you looked at a Pyracanthus? or Berberis? In that position, I do. I had a nice rose, but removed it because of its viciousness. Anyway, those aren't climbers and so are too wide - you can keep climbers to +-6" of a wire fence. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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