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The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
"Jim Webster" wrote in message ... "Tim Tyler" wrote in message ... In uk.rec.gardening Michael Saunby wrote: I'm not sure how best to deal with pollution. Probably the world should tax the pollutors - and use the proceeds to undo the damage they cause. so if you are rich you are allowed to pollute?, rather than conspicuous consumption we should watch for conspicuous pollution as the sign of the ostentatiously rich. "try some of this imported fruit, obviously it is horrendously imported compared to British, the pollution tax you know, but I can afford it whereas the poor cannot" Added to which it's possible eating imported blueberries is as likely to shorten life as prolong it - so you're also saying, rather like the man who drinks and smokes to much, that your life is rich enough that you don't need to hang on forever in the hope that something exciting might eventually happen. Reminds me of this, once again http://www.chook.demon.co.uk/saunby/...set_squire.pdf Though in truth being a big spender isn't the same as being rich. Western governments will now print as much money as their populations demand, you just keep borrowing and borrowing and so long as something somewhere is rationed (e.g. working hours, and housing) then it, sort of, balances out in the end. The equivalent of being rich in the future is more likely about having the freedom to do as you please, when you please. Which reminds me, it's too nice a day to be sat doing this - I'm off. Michael Saunby |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
"Tim Tyler" wrote in message ... In uk.rec.gardening Oz wrote: : Tim Tyler writes :I'm not sure how best to deal with pollution. Probably the world should :tax the pollutors - and use the proceeds to undo the damage they cause. : Ultimately the consumer is the polluter. : If they did not demand and buy the things that have caused the : pollution, then they would never have been made and the pollution : would never have happened. The consumer just wants the fruit. So why be so fussy about the type? Why do you have the right to eat fuit out of season? Most of the world's population only have very limited access to luxuries such as imported fruit. What do you contribute to the globe that makes you so important? Where it is grown - and whether it is transported by burning fossil fuels - is not under their control, and consequently it's hard to see how they can be held responsible for any resulting damage. Even if they /could/ specify how it was done, blame would still not be clear: If A pays B to shoot C, who should be imprisoned for C's murder? In the UK it would be A and B, indeed even if no money changed hands and they conspired in some other way, they'd both get a very long prison sentence. Surely that's the right thing to do? Michael Saunby |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
"Tim Tyler" wrote in message ... :If A pays B to shoot C, who should be imprisoned for C's murder? : A and B, in all courts of law I know of. You suprise me - A has committed no murder. Even attempting to hire someone to harm another will get you a long spell in prison. I can't believe this surprises you. I can't believe you don't accept responsibility for the consequences to other of your consumption. You seem very keen to blame others for risking harm to you. Michael Saunby |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
"Tim Tyler" wrote in message ... In uk.rec.gardening Oz wrote: More likely the airline would quickly hire someone else with fewer environmental scruples. : This doesn't mean the pilot is a cause of the shipping, any more than : the aeroplane is a cause. The airplane has no volition - and can't initiate things by itself. The pilot however can. He is not even permitting harm to happen by inaction. He actions are the most direct and immediate cause of the pollution. Try it this way Tim. If the plane were pilot less. Not true today, but far from impossible. Same for the warehouse, the supermarket, even the farm. All done with machines. In such a situation presumably only God can be blamed for the whole mess - certainly not the consumer. Grow up and learn to see yourself as others see you. You're a self centred hypocrite Tim. Worse still you peculiar diet isn't likely to let you live a longer and healthier life. People with faddish diets don't live longer than other - sorry, but it just doesn't happen. Michael Saunby |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
In article ,
Derek Moody wrote: Hello Pete, got a job? I think he just lost one. His Georgeous George/Supernews sock-puppet has been silent on the old kill-file-ometer, with not a hit in 2 weeks. All he has now is the much-loved-by-porn-merchants TeraNews anon remailer account. But I guess with more time on his hands now, he can spend more of it down his local library or internet cafe accessing it for a bit more trolling. His hit rate doesn't seem to be too good of late though, according to the old kf-ometer, he's averaging less than one hit in 18 posts, which suggests that most folks are running kill-files on him and only the odd newbie is being hooked. Kill filing any header with TeraNews is a highly effective way of dealing not only with his respawned threads, but any followups to them. Does that mean you can afford to pay that grand you owe the NSPCC? ??? |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
"Tim Tyler" wrote in message ... :If A pays B to shoot C, who should be imprisoned for C's murder? : A and B, in all courts of law I know of. You suprise me - A has committed no murder. However, A has *commisioned* the murder which, in law, makes him as guilty as B who has commited the killing act. There is a very real example of this in Scotland and the murder of Arlene Fraser some years ago. Her husband paid someone to murder her. The murderer was never caught but the husband was guilty of the murder and imprisoned for life. |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
"Tim Tyler" wrote in message ... In uk.rec.gardening Oz wrote: : Tim Tyler writes snip A can only cause B to do something directly if he eliminates B's freedom of action - e.g. by drugging or hypnotizing him - otherwise B's actions are the result of B's choices. So who was responsible for the killing of Charles 1, Cromwell and the co-signatories of the death warrant, or the executioner who did the deed (history seems to blame Cromwell)? |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
"BAC" wrote in message ... "Tim Tyler" wrote in message ... In uk.rec.gardening Oz wrote: : Tim Tyler writes snip A can only cause B to do something directly if he eliminates B's freedom of action - e.g. by drugging or hypnotizing him - otherwise B's actions are the result of B's choices. So who was responsible for the killing of Charles 1, Cromwell and the co-signatories of the death warrant, or the executioner who did the deed (history seems to blame Cromwell)? the way that Tim is going to avoid consumers taking any responsibility, he will doubtless blame the guy who made the axe Jim Webster |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
Jim Webster writes
the way that Tim is going to avoid consumers taking any responsibility, he will doubtless blame the guy who made the axe Indeed, his argument is pathetic. I'm sure he knows it, too. -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
On Thu, 29 May 2003 20:55:50 GMT, Malcolm wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2003 21:52:45 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 18:23:32 GMT, Malcolm wrote: Obviously, that doesn't give them the right to feed us and try to kill us off at the same time. Why would farmers try to kill off their customers? At the very least it would be a bad business practice. You're asking me!! ask the dealers, the farmer, the crack heads why! I agree, seems real daft. But where are all these dead customers? -- Peter Duncanson UK |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
"Jim Webster" wrote in message ... "BAC" wrote in message ... "Tim Tyler" wrote in message ... In uk.rec.gardening Oz wrote: : Tim Tyler writes snip A can only cause B to do something directly if he eliminates B's freedom of action - e.g. by drugging or hypnotizing him - otherwise B's actions are the result of B's choices. So who was responsible for the killing of Charles 1, Cromwell and the co-signatories of the death warrant, or the executioner who did the deed (history seems to blame Cromwell)? the way that Tim is going to avoid consumers taking any responsibility, he will doubtless blame the guy who made the axe LOL - I hadn't thought of that :-) |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
On Fri, 30 May 2003 16:24:51 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 20:55:50 GMT, Malcolm wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 21:52:45 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 18:23:32 GMT, Malcolm wrote: Obviously, that doesn't give them the right to feed us and try to kill us off at the same time. Why would farmers try to kill off their customers? At the very least it would be a bad business practice. You're asking me!! ask the dealers, the farmer, the crack heads why! I agree, seems real daft. But where are all these dead customers? In the cemetery I guess, who said all victims need to be dead? -- So, you dont like reasoned, well thought out, civil debate? I understand. /´¯/) /¯../ /..../ /´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ /'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') \.................'...../ ''...\.......... _.·´ \..............( \.............\.. |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 29 May 2003 20:55:50 GMT, Malcolm wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 21:52:45 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 18:23:32 GMT, Malcolm wrote: Obviously, that doesn't give them the right to feed us and try to kill us off at the same time. Why would farmers try to kill off their customers? At the very least it would be a bad business practice. You're asking me!! ask the dealers, the farmer, the crack heads why! I agree, seems real daft. But where are all these dead customers? According to Pete at least one (Gorgeous George) is buried in my yard. I imagine that he thinks this will get me in trouble with DEFRA - what he perhaps hasn't realised in that on farm burial of vermin in still legal. Nor is there yet a ban on the use of that most ancient of weapons, the "troll bow". So another of Pete's sock puppets is dead and the mourning is over already. Michael Saunby |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
On Fri, 30 May 2003 17:22:31 +0100, "Michael Saunby"
wrote: "Peter Duncanson" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 29 May 2003 20:55:50 GMT, Malcolm wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 21:52:45 +0100, Peter Duncanson wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 18:23:32 GMT, Malcolm wrote: Obviously, that doesn't give them the right to feed us and try to kill us off at the same time. Why would farmers try to kill off their customers? At the very least it would be a bad business practice. You're asking me!! ask the dealers, the farmer, the crack heads why! I agree, seems real daft. But where are all these dead customers? According to Pete at least one (Gorgeous George) is buried in my yard. I imagine that he thinks this will get me in trouble with DEFRA - what he perhaps hasn't realised in that on farm burial of vermin in still legal. Nor is there yet a ban on the use of that most ancient of weapons, the "troll bow". So another of Pete's sock puppets is dead and the mourning is over already. We'll never let it rest, have you already killed him, or is he locked in the basement as a sex slave? must have one hell of a donger to match the balls he had! Should imagine your sister was thrilled, how come the kid she has looks like you? -- So, you dont like reasoned, well thought out, civil debate? I understand. /´¯/) /¯../ /..../ /´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ /'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') \.................'...../ ''...\.......... _.·´ \..............( \.............\.. |
The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.
On Fri, 30 May 2003 11:15:06 +0100, T N Nurse
wrote: In article , Derek Moody wrote: Hello Pete, got a job? I think he just lost one. His Georgeous George/Supernews sock-puppet has been silent on the old kill-file-ometer, with not a hit in 2 weeks. All he has now is the much-loved-by-porn-merchants TeraNews anon remailer account. But I guess with more time on his hands now, he can spend more of it down his local library or internet cafe accessing it for a bit more trolling. His hit rate doesn't seem to be too good of late though, according to the old kf-ometer, he's averaging less than one hit in 18 posts, which suggests that most folks are running kill-files on him and only the odd newbie is being hooked. Kill filing any header with TeraNews is a highly effective way of dealing not only with his respawned threads, but any followups to them. Oh Michael, if only you actually new how to implement a kf, it would save us all listening to your three steps behind whining. I wonder if Professor Sir Graeme Davies Principal and Vice-Chancellor of the University of Glasgow is aware that you are using their services for libel, trolling and general abuse of usenet, whilst besmirching the good name of GLA? He does now ha ha ha Lets see how quickly you can arrange another service provider...... -- So, you dont like reasoned, well thought out, civil debate? I understand. /´¯/) /¯../ /..../ /´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ /'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') \.................'...../ ''...\.......... _.·´ \..............( \.............\.. |
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