Hi,

I am trying to be a little more organised this year :-)

In any one year I may grow four or five vegtetable plants in tubs on the
patio.

Last year there were a pepper, a chilli, and two cherry tomatoes.

I find it irritating (though logically it shouldn't be) to buy a complete
packet of seeds to grow one or two plants.

Last year I just bought two cherry tomato plants at a local farmers market,
and a chilli and pepper plant at Homebase.

This costs in about the same as buying three packets of seed and growing
your own, especially with an allowance for the time and trouble geting the
seedlings going. Commercially grown plants tend to be sturdier than my
attempts, mainly I think due to them being grown in a heated greenhouse with
plenty of light, as opposed to my windowsill/sun room attempts.

However you don't get to choose the variety; in the case of Homebase you
don't even get told the variety.

So what I would like to do is order plants of a chosen variety from a
nursery (or nurseries) over the Internet and have them delivered at the
correct time for planting them outside.

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.

I can find specialist plant firms, and a nice Mr Fothergills site for seeds,
but nobody doing mail order vegetable plants.

Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
arrangements?

TIA

Dave R

--

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 18:27:40 -0000, "David W.E. Roberts"
wrote:

snip
~
~However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites which
~crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they can
~give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.
~
~I can find specialist plant firms, and a nice Mr Fothergills site for seeds,
~but nobody doing mail order vegetable plants.
~
~Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
~seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
~arrangements?

I can't answer the question properly, but I can give you this URL:
http://www.gardenerskitchen.co.uk/

These are the people who supply little polystyrene packs of veg to
garden centres: they were very helpful when I phoned a couple of years
or so ago to enquire about their leek variety (which I now buy as seed
from Unwin's thanks to their information!) and they do have quite a
good selection of varieties, all listed with growing instructions on
the website.

They sadly don't do mail order - just the deliveries to GCs. But the
site does have a list of the GCs which sell their veggies. Bewa a
given GC won't have the whole range... so always best to phone first.

hope this helps a bit...


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

Nick Wagg wrote in news:401F62C4.DDC8DFB9
@transcendata.com:

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote:

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.

I just tried a search for "vegetable plants mail order" and clicked
on the "pages from the UK" button. The returned list looks pretty
useful to me.

Um, not to me. If you look more closely, you'll see that those sites that
are not directories, review sites, or link lists are selling seed, not
plants.

The exceptions are http://www.mammothonion.co.uk/shop/10/index.htm which is
the site that came to my mind when I saw this post, and Mr Fothergills,
which sells seed and plants, but not ready started veg plants.

I'm afraid David is looking for a service that doesn't seem to be much
offered. At any rate, the mail order plant suppliers that I review for the
ODP all seem to focus on bulbs or flowers rather than veg, and the veg
suppliers seem to focus on seed.

I think he might be better off phoning round local garden centres to find
out what they are planning to offer this year.

There may be a site out there offering veg plants, but if so Google isn't
being too helpful, and http://www.alltheweb.com/ can't find anything better
either.

Victoria

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:24:48 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote:

Nick Wagg wrote in news:401F62C4.DDC8DFB9
:

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote:

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.

I just tried a search for "vegetable plants mail order" and clicked
on the "pages from the UK" button. The returned list looks pretty
useful to me.

Um, not to me. If you look more closely, you'll see that those sites that
are not directories, review sites, or link lists are selling seed, not
plants.

The exceptions are http://www.mammothonion.co.uk/shop/10/index.htm which is
the site that came to my mind when I saw this post, and Mr Fothergills,
which sells seed and plants, but not ready started veg plants.

I'm afraid David is looking for a service that doesn't seem to be much
offered. At any rate, the mail order plant suppliers that I review for the
ODP all seem to focus on bulbs or flowers rather than veg, and the veg
suppliers seem to focus on seed.

I think he might be better off phoning round local garden centres to find
out what they are planning to offer this year.

There may be a site out there offering veg plants, but if so Google isn't
being too helpful, and http://www.alltheweb.com/ can't find anything better
either.

Via HDRA site
http://www.organiccatalog.com
--
Martin

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am trying to be a little more organised this year :-)

In any one year I may grow four or five vegtetable plants in tubs on the
patio.

Last year there were a pepper, a chilli, and two cherry tomatoes.

I find it irritating (though logically it shouldn't be) to buy a complete
packet of seeds to grow one or two plants.

Last year I just bought two cherry tomato plants at a local farmers
market,
and a chilli and pepper plant at Homebase.

This costs in about the same as buying three packets of seed and growing
your own, especially with an allowance for the time and trouble geting the
seedlings going. Commercially grown plants tend to be sturdier than my
attempts, mainly I think due to them being grown in a heated greenhouse
with
plenty of light, as opposed to my windowsill/sun room attempts.

However you don't get to choose the variety; in the case of Homebase you
don't even get told the variety.

So what I would like to do is order plants of a chosen variety from a
nursery (or nurseries) over the Internet and have them delivered at the
correct time for planting them outside.

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.

I can find specialist plant firms, and a nice Mr Fothergills site for
seeds,
but nobody doing mail order vegetable plants.

Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
arrangements?

TIA

Dave R


Have you tried looking for local gardening clubs/societies, many of these
sell of excess plants through the year, and you would probably get quite a
good selection of different varieties.

You may well even find someone who'd happily swop a couple of chilli plants
for a couple of tomatoes etc.


Just an idea.
Duncan

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:58:34 -0000, "D Russell"
wrote:

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am trying to be a little more organised this year :-)

snip

Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
arrangements?

TIA

Dave R


Have you tried looking for local gardening clubs/societies, many of these
sell of excess plants through the year, and you would probably get quite a
good selection of different varieties.

You may well even find someone who'd happily swop a couple of chilli plants
for a couple of tomatoes etc.

or in this group?

Via HDRA site
http://www.organiccatalog.com
--
Martin

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:58:34 -0000, "D Russell"
wrote:

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am trying to be a little more organised this year :-)

snip

Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
arrangements?

TIA

Dave R


Have you tried looking for local gardening clubs/societies, many of these
sell of excess plants through the year, and you would probably get quite a
good selection of different varieties.

You may well even find someone who'd happily swop a couple of chilli plants
for a couple of tomatoes etc.

or in this group?

Via HDRA site
http://www.organiccatalog.com
--
Martin

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am trying to be a little more organised this year :-)

In any one year I may grow four or five vegtetable plants in tubs on the
patio.

Last year there were a pepper, a chilli, and two cherry tomatoes.

I find it irritating (though logically it shouldn't be) to buy a complete
packet of seeds to grow one or two plants.

Last year I just bought two cherry tomato plants at a local farmers
market,
and a chilli and pepper plant at Homebase.

This costs in about the same as buying three packets of seed and growing
your own, especially with an allowance for the time and trouble geting the
seedlings going. Commercially grown plants tend to be sturdier than my
attempts, mainly I think due to them being grown in a heated greenhouse
with
plenty of light, as opposed to my windowsill/sun room attempts.

However you don't get to choose the variety; in the case of Homebase you
don't even get told the variety.

So what I would like to do is order plants of a chosen variety from a
nursery (or nurseries) over the Internet and have them delivered at the
correct time for planting them outside.

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.

I can find specialist plant firms, and a nice Mr Fothergills site for
seeds,
but nobody doing mail order vegetable plants.

Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
arrangements?

TIA

Dave R


Have you tried looking for local gardening clubs/societies, many of these
sell of excess plants through the year, and you would probably get quite a
good selection of different varieties.

You may well even find someone who'd happily swop a couple of chilli plants
for a couple of tomatoes etc.


Just an idea.
Duncan

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am trying to be a little more organised this year :-)

In any one year I may grow four or five vegtetable plants in tubs on the
patio.

Last year there were a pepper, a chilli, and two cherry tomatoes.

I find it irritating (though logically it shouldn't be) to buy a complete
packet of seeds to grow one or two plants.

Last year I just bought two cherry tomato plants at a local farmers
market,
and a chilli and pepper plant at Homebase.

This costs in about the same as buying three packets of seed and growing
your own, especially with an allowance for the time and trouble geting the
seedlings going. Commercially grown plants tend to be sturdier than my
attempts, mainly I think due to them being grown in a heated greenhouse
with
plenty of light, as opposed to my windowsill/sun room attempts.

However you don't get to choose the variety; in the case of Homebase you
don't even get told the variety.

So what I would like to do is order plants of a chosen variety from a
nursery (or nurseries) over the Internet and have them delivered at the
correct time for planting them outside.

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.

I can find specialist plant firms, and a nice Mr Fothergills site for
seeds,
but nobody doing mail order vegetable plants.

Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
arrangements?

TIA

Dave R


Have you tried looking for local gardening clubs/societies, many of these
sell of excess plants through the year, and you would probably get quite a
good selection of different varieties.

You may well even find someone who'd happily swop a couple of chilli plants
for a couple of tomatoes etc.


Just an idea.
Duncan

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:58:34 -0000, "D Russell"
wrote:

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am trying to be a little more organised this year :-)

snip

Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
arrangements?

TIA

Dave R


Have you tried looking for local gardening clubs/societies, many of these
sell of excess plants through the year, and you would probably get quite a
good selection of different varieties.

You may well even find someone who'd happily swop a couple of chilli plants
for a couple of tomatoes etc.

or in this group?

Via HDRA site
http://www.organiccatalog.com
--
Martin

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am trying to be a little more organised this year :-)

In any one year I may grow four or five vegtetable plants in tubs on the
patio.

Last year there were a pepper, a chilli, and two cherry tomatoes.

I find it irritating (though logically it shouldn't be) to buy a complete
packet of seeds to grow one or two plants.

Last year I just bought two cherry tomato plants at a local farmers
market,
and a chilli and pepper plant at Homebase.

This costs in about the same as buying three packets of seed and growing
your own, especially with an allowance for the time and trouble geting the
seedlings going. Commercially grown plants tend to be sturdier than my
attempts, mainly I think due to them being grown in a heated greenhouse
with
plenty of light, as opposed to my windowsill/sun room attempts.

However you don't get to choose the variety; in the case of Homebase you
don't even get told the variety.

So what I would like to do is order plants of a chosen variety from a
nursery (or nurseries) over the Internet and have them delivered at the
correct time for planting them outside.

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.

I can find specialist plant firms, and a nice Mr Fothergills site for
seeds,
but nobody doing mail order vegetable plants.

Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
arrangements?

TIA

Dave R


Have you tried looking for local gardening clubs/societies, many of these
sell of excess plants through the year, and you would probably get quite a
good selection of different varieties.

You may well even find someone who'd happily swop a couple of chilli plants
for a couple of tomatoes etc.


Just an idea.
Duncan

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:58:34 -0000, "D Russell"
wrote:

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am trying to be a little more organised this year :-)

snip

Anyone found a good place to do this, or should I bite the bullet and get
seeds, resign myself to not using most of them, and improve my propogation
arrangements?

TIA

Dave R


Have you tried looking for local gardening clubs/societies, many of these
sell of excess plants through the year, and you would probably get quite a
good selection of different varieties.

You may well even find someone who'd happily swop a couple of chilli plants
for a couple of tomatoes etc.

or in this group?

Via HDRA site
http://www.organiccatalog.com
--
Martin

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:24:48 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote:

Nick Wagg wrote in news:401F62C4.DDC8DFB9
:

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote:

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites
which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they
can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.
snip
Via HDRA site
http://www.organiccatalog.com
--
Martin
you have posted this URL twice, but as far as I can see it only offers
seeds.
Am I missing something on the site?
TIA
Dave R

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:24:48 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote:

Nick Wagg wrote in news:401F62C4.DDC8DFB9
:

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote:

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites
which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they
can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.
snip
Via HDRA site
http://www.organiccatalog.com
--
Martin
you have posted this URL twice, but as far as I can see it only offers
seeds.
Am I missing something on the site?
TIA
Dave R

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:25:07 -0000, "David W.E. Roberts"
wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:24:48 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote:

Nick Wagg wrote in news:401F62C4.DDC8DFB9
:

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote:

However Google (especially with all these subsidiary search sites
which
crowd the top of the list and just echo your search and pretend they
can
give you answers) is proving especially unhelpful.
snip
Via HDRA site
http://www.organiccatalog.com
--
Martin
you have posted this URL twice, but as far as I can see it only offers
seeds.
Am I missing something on the site?

potatoes onions shallots garlic
--
Martin