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found a mouse in my loft!
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... Warfarin-based poisons are not particularly unpleasant. The victims just get weaker and weaker and lapse into a coma. The Warfarin tends to prevent the blood clotting, and the passage of food down the gut abrades the villi (a design feature to allow nutrients to be absorbed through the walls of the blood vessels) and the animal loses blood internally, and weakens and dies. There is no pain involved. How do you know? Because I have been eating it for twelve years now. On a small number of occasions I have had too much, resulting in internal bleeding. It is entirely painless and the main symptoms are general creeping lassitude and very darkly coloured faeces. You still haven't explained how you know that enough to cause death is painless. I another thread I did explain why I have enough experience to feel reasonably safe in making that assertion. Briefly: On one occasion I did take a sufficiently large overdoes to take me to the brink of a coma without feeling any physical pain. Franz |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... Mary Fisher22/2/04 2:37 "Jack Hammer" wrote in message ... On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:47:21 -0000, "Mary Fisher" wrote: "Jack Hammer" wrote in message ... On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:14:03 +0100, martin wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:10:32 -0000, "Mary Fisher" wrote: "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... Warfarin-based poisons are not particularly unpleasant. The victims just get weaker and weaker and lapse into a coma. The Warfarin tends to prevent the blood clotting, and the passage of food down the gut abrades the villi (a design feature to allow nutrients to be absorbed through the walls of the blood vessels) and the animal loses blood internally, and weakens and dies. There is no pain involved. How do you know? because it's used in humans as an anti clotting agent. The village idiot mentality is astounding! That sounds like the voice of experience. Using a substance medicinally is not the same as using it to kill. If you fed enough Warfarin to a human to kill him would it cause pain? Yes. It is a slow and agonizing death, rat or man would bleed to death from the inside. The fact that very minute doses of poison are used very successfully in medicine has nothing to do with it's use to kill something. Somebody said, "There is no pain involved." and I asked how that waas known. It seems now that there IS pain involved. Now who's the idiot? Mary One person has supported your assertion so far. May I suggest you hang on a bit longer? *Nobody* has so far presented any evidence that an overdose of warfarin causes any physical pain. One person has waffled about it from a state of zero knowledge. Franz |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: The Warfarin tends to prevent the blood clotting, and the passage of food down the gut abrades the villi (a design feature to allow nutrients to be absorbed through the walls of the blood vessels) and the animal loses blood internally, and weakens and dies. There is no pain involved. How do you know? Plenty of people have died, or been poisoned as a result of ingesting Warfarin, and they have been able to describe the effects. Indeed, it is used in medicine in small doses to thin the blood in certain conditions. My mother took it after having a stroke. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: (Always set mousetraps facing the wall too.) Why trap them? It does not cost much to feed them well and they do one hell of a lot less damage than cats. I've had a box of rare books trashed by the little *******s...... They spread crap everywhere and thereby, diseases. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from martin contains these words: The village idiot mentality is astounding! eh? Danny the troll. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Using a substance medicinally is not the same as using it to kill. If you fed enough Warfarin to a human to kill him would it cause pain? No. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Yes. It is a slow and agonizing death, rat or man would bleed to death from the inside. The fact that very minute doses of poison are used very successfully in medicine has nothing to do with it's use to kill something. Somebody said, "There is no pain involved." and I asked how that waas known. It seems now that there IS pain involved. Now who's the idiot? Danny the troll. He's an ignoramus with it. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "Dave Liquorice" contains these words: Serious internal bleeding in humans is certainly painful. Not warfarin-induced bleeding. Painful conditiond might have bleeding as a side-effect, but bleeding of itself is not painful. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Sacha contains these words: Somebody said, "There is no pain involved." and I asked how that waas known. It seems now that there IS pain involved. Now who's the idiot? Mary One person has supported your assertion so far. And a troll at that. May I suggest you hang on a bit longer? -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: From personal experience, no there is *no* physical pain involved, as I have now stated at least three times. But you haven't consumed enough to kill you ... From Franz's last post I would guess that he has. However, you wouldn't have seen that before you wrote the above. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:08:30 +0000, Jack Hammer
wrote: I just don't believe the dummies coming out of the woodwork on this. Why in the world do you think your medicine dosage of warfarin has any connection at all with the dosage that kills rodents in the most horrendous manner imaginable? You alone have taken village idiots to new heights of ignorance! sheesh...... You seem to be the prime dummy in this thread. -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:10:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: (Always set mousetraps facing the wall too.) Why trap them? It does not cost much to feed them well and they do one hell of a lot less damage than cats. I've had a box of rare books trashed by the little *******s...... They spread crap everywhere and thereby, diseases. Try keeping your house a little cleaner then. Most of us would spot mouse shit long before the messies started chewing our books. |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:17:56 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message om from "Dave Liquorice" contains these words: Serious internal bleeding in humans is certainly painful. Not warfarin-induced bleeding. Painful conditiond might have bleeding as a side-effect, but bleeding of itself is not painful. Oh dear me! the troll is on a roll, ignore him folks he is trying to get your backs up. No one can really be that stupid. |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:10:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: (Always set mousetraps facing the wall too.) Why trap them? It does not cost much to feed them well and they do one hell of a lot less damage than cats. I've had a box of rare books trashed by the little *******s...... They spread crap everywhere and thereby, diseases. Try keeping your house a little cleaner then. Most of us would spot mouse shit long before the messies started chewing our books. |
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