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Kay Easton wrote in
: In article , Edwin Spector writes Just how poisonous is an apple tree? ISTR the pips contain minute amounts of cyanide ;-) Not enough to do any harm unless you were to eat them in *vast* amounts, but they are in the same family as bitter almonds and cherry laurel. I believe that I have read of someone who got appendicitis through eating apple cores and the pips becoming lodged in the appendix. ....any good? Cherry twigs apparently cause liver and kidney problems in rabbits... Victoria |
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Victoria Clare writes I believe that I have read of someone who got appendicitis through eating apple cores and the pips becoming lodged in the appendix. T'were oi!!!!!! I used to eat the whole of the apple except the stalk. Had a perforated gangrenous appendix at the age of 8 -- Jane Ransom in Lancaster. I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see |
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In article , Jane Ransom
writes In article . 10, Victoria Clare writes I believe that I have read of someone who got appendicitis through eating apple cores and the pips becoming lodged in the appendix. T'were oi!!!!!! I used to eat the whole of the apple except the stalk. Had a perforated gangrenous appendix at the age of 8 I can't help wondering why you baulked at the stalk -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article . 10,
Victoria Clare writes Kay Easton wrote in : In article , Edwin Spector writes Just how poisonous is an apple tree? ISTR the pips contain minute amounts of cyanide ;-) Not enough to do any harm unless you were to eat them in *vast* amounts, but they are in the same family as bitter almonds and cherry laurel. I believe that I have read of someone who got appendicitis through eating apple cores and the pips becoming lodged in the appendix. ...any good? I guess they'd be very bad news for a diverticulitis sufferer Cherry twigs apparently cause liver and kidney problems in rabbits... I did a quick google on poisonous plants, and some of the symptoms described were very compelling ... but they were on vets' sites. I suppose it makes sense that plants would have evolved with good defences against pure herbivores. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article , Kay Easton
writes I can't help wondering why you baulked at the stalk Don't really know myself. We used to go out in the car a lot and always had apples. I never knew what to do with the core and, as we weren't allowed to chuck it out of the window, I just used to eat it. I suppose I was always a bit of a rebel and, if I wasn't allowed to chuck the whole core out of the window, at least I could chuck the stalk out!!!!!!!! -- Jane Ransom in Lancaster. I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see |
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(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
In article , "Neil Jones" writes: | "Sacha" wrote in message | o.uk... | Sacha12/4/04 10:11 | | This is an alphabetical listing of poisonous plants: | http://www.powen.freeserve.co.uk/Ref...ison%20a-m.htm | | It runs to 7 pages. ;-) | | I got ahead of myself there - 7 pages is just A to M. A to Z is 12 | pages! | | A lot of these seem to be rated 1 ie non-toxic. How many pages is it if | you exclude these? Dunno, but it is sufficiently incomplete that I wouldn't bother with it. Try runner beans, flowering tobacco (nicotiana), bluebell, common laurel and horse chestnut, to name but a few commonly-planted decoratives. Just moved house, so I can't give a proper reference, but in one of my boxes there's a good HMSO book (one of the Agricultural Bulletins series, I think),*British Poisonous Plants*, written chiefly from a vet point of view with case descriptions. It always cheers me up. Mike. |
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"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
. 240.10... Kay Easton wrote in : In article , Edwin Spector writes Just how poisonous is an apple tree? ISTR the pips contain minute amounts of cyanide ;-) Not enough to do any harm unless you were to eat them in *vast* amounts, but they are in the same family as bitter almonds and cherry laurel. I believe that I have read of someone who got appendicitis through eating apple cores and the pips becoming lodged in the appendix. I heard of someone who saved apple pips (because he liked the taste) until he had a bagful. Then died of cyanide poisoning after he scoffed the lot. -- Nick Wagg |
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Kay Easton wrote in
: And forget-me-not, and grape hyacinth? Honeysuckle, marigold, peony, privet... Honeysuckle berries and privet berries are both poisonous. Privet has a violent purging effect and can be fatal to children. Some marigold species can apparently cause minor skin irritation - http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/c...on/Tagetsp.htm Peony roots can cause paralysis: http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/cumberland/h...rdennote21.htm l I also found a reference to forgetmenots possibly causing liver damage, though I couldn't find anything bad about grape hyacinths. One thing to note with 'poisonous plant' lists is that many of them are prepared with herbal medicine users in mind. So, they aren't just warning you against risks to passing kids (unlikely to dig up your paeonies and eat the roots, I think), but they also provide info to try to discourage people who would otherwise boil the stuff down and drink it, or rub it in all over. I found the thing about liver damage and forgetmenots on an AIDS advice site which gave me the impression that some of its users might try almost anything in desperation. (Mind you, there's no denying some urglers are adventurous eaters!) Victoria -- gardening on a north-facing hill in South-East Cornwall -- |
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The message . 10
from Victoria Clare contains these words: I believe that I have read of someone who got appendicitis through eating apple cores and the pips becoming lodged in the appendix. ...any good? Urbane miff. Cherry twigs apparently cause liver and kidney problems in rabbits... So does the landing after they've flown up to get them. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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The message
from Jane Ransom contains these words: In article . 10, Victoria Clare writes I believe that I have read of someone who got appendicitis through eating apple cores and the pips becoming lodged in the appendix. T'were oi!!!!!! I used to eat the whole of the apple except the stalk. Had a perforated gangrenous appendix at the age of 8 But I bet it wasn't a pip wot dun it, yeronner. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Jane Ransom contains these words: In article . 10, Victoria Clare writes I believe that I have read of someone who got appendicitis through eating apple cores and the pips becoming lodged in the appendix. It's an old wives tale. Applepips are no more likely to get lodged in the appendix than any other undigested seeds, grains etc. I used to eat the whole of the apple except the stalk. Had a perforated gangrenous appendix at the age of 8 My sister and mother both had a perforated appendix, and neither of them ate pips. Janet. |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:50:57 +0100, Sacha
wrote: Nick Maclaren13/4/04 3:20 . ac.uk In article , Sacha writes: | | The RHS Encyclopedia gives some such details but not for all plants. If | people want a garden in which they can be certain that no smallest degree of | harm can come to anyone in it, they're going to find it problematic. | I know someone who nearly died of septicaemia after pricking his finger on a | rose thorn that had been sprayed by some nasty chemical. Few people ask if | such things will endanger their lives! I once cut my head on the corner of an ill-placed safety cabinet. I met someone in the fracture clinic a couple of years ago who'd broken her ankle smelling the roses! (mind you, I'd broken mine falling off the doormat.....) Regards, Nick Maclaren. Isn't it ROSPA that says 'most accidents happen in the home'? ;-) -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) -- Sally in Shropshire, UK bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk Email is sallydogthompsonatbtinternetdogcom, replacing dog with dot Reply To address is spam trap |
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message om... (Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ... In article , "Neil Jones" writes: | "Sacha" wrote in message | o.uk... | Sacha12/4/04 10:11 | | This is an alphabetical listing of poisonous plants: | http://www.powen.freeserve.co.uk/Ref...ison%20a-m.htm | | It runs to 7 pages. ;-) | | I got ahead of myself there - 7 pages is just A to M. A to Z is 12 | pages! | | A lot of these seem to be rated 1 ie non-toxic. How many pages is it if | you exclude these? Dunno, but it is sufficiently incomplete that I wouldn't bother with it. Try runner beans, flowering tobacco (nicotiana), bluebell, common laurel and horse chestnut, to name but a few commonly-planted decoratives. I certainly wouldn't rely on it, there are some glaring omissions and the random use of common names or botanic names makes it hard to find a plant even when you know its poisonous and what its called! one well know poison I couldn't see (but it may be there under a different name) Strychnos toxifera or curare. I think the advice at the beginning of the page is spot on, if you don't know something is edible you should assume its poisonous! -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs) |
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In article , "Charlie Pridham" writes: | | I certainly wouldn't rely on it, there are some glaring omissions and the | random use of common names or botanic names makes it hard to find a plant | even when you know its poisonous and what its called! | one well know poison I couldn't see (but it may be there under a different | name) Strychnos toxifera or curare. You could tell from the length that it was intended to cover only common garden plants - I didn't know that was one. | I think the advice at the beginning of the page is spot on, if you don't | know something is edible you should assume its poisonous! I will experiment with some families but, as you know, I have enough botanical and toxological knowledge to make an educated guess. I will not experiment with the solanaceae or fabaceae/leguminoseae, despite the number of food plants in those families! Nor will I trust Web pages that say they are edible without further evidence (black nightshade being the obvious example). Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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