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Greenhouse security.
I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which,
after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? Don |
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"Don" wrote in message
... I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which, after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? Don What's the point? Anyone who wanted to steal something could just smash a pane of glass or two and grab what they wanted. Most gardeners leave their greenhouse door open during the summer anyway, to stop it overheating. The best thing is not to keep anything valuable in the greenhouse. If you must, then get yourself a lockable cabinet or something to put inside it. -- Martin & Anna Sykes ( Remove x's when replying ) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm |
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What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? Don I have never thought of putting any locks on my greenhouse.I am sure that commercial growers do, they will be able to help you more kate |
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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:57:48 -0000, "Martin Sykes"
wrote: "Don" wrote in message .. . I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which, after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? Don What's the point? Anyone who wanted to steal something could just smash a pane of glass or two and grab what they wanted. Most gardeners leave their greenhouse door open during the summer anyway, to stop it overheating. The best thing is not to keep anything valuable in the greenhouse. If you must, then get yourself a lockable cabinet or something to put inside it. I was thinking more on the lines of grandchildren or neighbours children pinching my tomatoes etc than any smash & grab merchants. I think I'll just ensure that I grow enough stuff for us all :-) Thank you. Don |
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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:53:55 GMT, Kate Morgan
wrote: snip What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? Don I have never thought of putting any locks on my greenhouse.I am sure that commercial growers do, they will be able to help you more kate Thanks, Kate, I've decided not to bother. Don |
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"Don" wrote in message ... I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which, after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? Don Hi Don, I don't have an Elite greenhouse, however, with my greenhouse I've drilled a hole in the top aluminium runner, to the left of the door when shut (but this depends on which way your door opens). I then feed the shackle of my padlock through this and snap it shut, preventing the door from being opened. I also squirt a little oil in the lock to prevent it sticking (although you can now get weatherproof padlocks). HTH Cheers Nick http://www.ukgardening.co.uk |
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In message , Don
writes I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which, after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. Not worth it. Though it is worth considering how to lock down the door and any opening windows so that they cannot be sprung out by winter storms. And also consider strengthening the cross struts on the corner that faces into the prevailing wind. That was what did for mine... What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? None. Regards, -- Martin Brown |
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In article , Don
writes I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which, after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? I have a Robinsons which has a double door. I have a chain through the door handles fastened by combination lock (so I don't have to fuss about where the key is). That also allows me to lock it with the doors a little bit open in summer. The reason I lock my greenhouse is a) we have a shared driveway so we can't gate off the access to the greenhouse b) some of the cacti in it I've had for more than 40 years so I'd be a bit cross if anything happened to them. If my greenhouse were in a secure back garden, I probably wouldn't lock it. I'd also be careful not to leave tools in it that could be used to help break into the house. But even in its current insecure situation, I've had no attempts at damage to greenhouse or contents in 14 years, even though in that time we've had one sneak thief and one water butt stolen, and next door neighbours but one have had a car stolen from the driveway, 3 thefts from their garage, and we've both had paving stone thefts. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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In article , Martin Sykes
writes "Don" wrote in message .. . I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which, after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? Don What's the point? Anyone who wanted to steal something could just smash a pane of glass or two and grab what they wanted. The noise of smashing glass might attract attention. Having to smash glass rather than just walk in may well be enough to deter the casual thief. After all, if you follow that argument, why bother with window locks? ;-) -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:19:45 GMT, Janet Baraclough..
wrote: The message from Don contains these words: I was thinking more on the lines of grandchildren or neighbours children pinching my tomatoes etc than any smash & grab merchants. I think I'll just ensure that I grow enough stuff for us all :-) Thank you. I'd just put the GH strictly off-limits to unsupervised-child visitors. Tell their parents it's for the safety of Precious; and let them picture their kids tasting deadly potions, falling onto dagger shards of horticultural glass, or drowning in the water butt. Janet. Good idea! I'd best not mention that I fitted 3mm toughened glass. Mind you, all this is in anticipation of me growing something edible, which is in no way guaranteed, this being my first attempt. Up until now my gardening experience has been limited to cutting hedges and mowing lawns (occasionally). Don. |
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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:19:47 -0000, "Nick Gray"
wrote: Hi Don, I don't have an Elite greenhouse, however, with my greenhouse I've drilled a hole in the top aluminium runner, to the left of the door when shut (but this depends on which way your door opens). I then feed the shackle of my padlock through this and snap it shut, preventing the door from being opened. I also squirt a little oil in the lock to prevent it sticking (although you can now get weatherproof padlocks). HTH Cheers Nick Thanks, Nick, that sounds like just the thing for me. I'll look to see if it will work on my greenhouse. Perhaps you would give me your opinion on another matter on which I've been posting to a DIY ng. The erection instructions for my greenhouse say it should be anchored to the ground by drilling through the steel flange on the base into the concrete slabs on which it stands. I can see that I will have trouble in getting the screws in as well as drilling the holes. I've been provided with 10 x 2" wood screws & rawl plugs to be placed three each side of the 8' x 6' base and two each end. Since I can't budge the greenhouse with just the 3mm toughened glass in the roof. I can't imagine the wind shifting it with the side glass fitted as well. I'm wondering if there isn't a heck of a lot of overkill here and how many gardeners do anchor their greenhouse down. My garden is quite well sheltered by hedges and is on the leeward side of the house.. Don. BTW great website, I'll be spending some time there |
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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:55:10 +0000, Kay wrote:
In article , Don writes I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which, after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? I have a Robinsons which has a double door. I have a chain through the door handles fastened by combination lock (so I don't have to fuss about where the key is). That also allows me to lock it with the doors a little bit open in summer. The reason I lock my greenhouse is a) we have a shared driveway so we can't gate off the access to the greenhouse b) some of the cacti in it I've had for more than 40 years so I'd be a bit cross if anything happened to them. If my greenhouse were in a secure back garden, I probably wouldn't lock it. I'd also be careful not to leave tools in it that could be used to help break into the house. But even in its current insecure situation, I've had no attempts at damage to greenhouse or contents in 14 years, even though in that time we've had one sneak thief and one water butt stolen, and next door neighbours but one have had a car stolen from the driveway, 3 thefts from their garage, and we've both had paving stone thefts. I was mainly concerned with keeping children at bay. I remember, when I was a lad, my grandfather had a greenhouse and I used to..........well, we won't go into that. Don. |
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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:51:55 +0000, Don
wrote: Since I can't budge the greenhouse with just the 3mm toughened glass in the roof. I can't imagine the wind shifting it with the side glass fitted as well. I'm wondering if there isn't a heck of a lot of overkill here and how many gardeners do anchor their greenhouse down. My garden is quite well sheltered by hedges and is on the leeward side of the house.. I've seen a 120ft x 60ft mobile greenhouse lifted off its runners and dumped about 2ft to one side of where it was. That's a helluva lot of glass, aluminium and steel. I have to say that was a fairly exposed site on a night when anything not bolted down on the nursery got airborne. ================================================= Rod Weed my email address to reply. http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html |
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I use a photo of my wife on the greenhouse
as a deterrent.!! Tom Atkinson "Don" wrote in message ... I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which, after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? Don |
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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:38:53 +0000, Martin Brown
wrote: In message , Don writes I have just bought myself a 6 x 8 Elite Craftsman greenhouse which, after something of a struggle, I have now finished erecting. There is no provision for locking the door or fixing a padlock, though I believe Elite do sell such a thing. Not worth it. Though it is worth considering how to lock down the door and any opening windows so that they cannot be sprung out by winter storms. And also consider strengthening the cross struts on the corner that faces into the prevailing wind. That was what did for mine... What sort of security do amateur gardeners usually install in or on their greenhouses? None. Regards, The door looks a bit vulnerable now that you mention it. I'll follow your advice, thank you. Don |
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