In message , writes
This sounds like mallow as opposed to any sort of violet.

It's the bane of our lives here in Suffolk nowadays.

Malva sylvestris or some other species? Round this neck of the woods
Malva sylvestris is rose-flowered, not violet-flowered.

BTW, Malva sylvestris is said to be Glyphosate-resistant.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , writes
This sounds like mallow as opposed to any sort of violet.

It's the bane of our lives here in Suffolk nowadays.

Malva sylvestris or some other species? Round this neck of the woods
Malva sylvestris is rose-flowered, not violet-flowered.

Well the stuff we call mallow is most certainly violet, quite a pale
violet admittedly.

BTW, Malva sylvestris is said to be Glyphosate-resistant.

That doesn't surprise me, it's certainly very difficult to get rid of.
It manages to survive on the lawn lying flat and at the other extreme
will grow into quite a sizeable bush. It seems to me that it's much
commoner nowadays than it used to be.

--
Chris Green

wrote:
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , writes
This sounds like mallow as opposed to any sort of violet.

It's the bane of our lives here in Suffolk nowadays.

Malva sylvestris or some other species? Round this neck of the woods
Malva sylvestris is rose-flowered, not violet-flowered.

Well the stuff we call mallow is most certainly violet, quite a pale
violet admittedly.

Walking past one just now I suppose you could call it pink/rose,
though others are definitely more violet.

--
Chris Green

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Malva sylvestris or some other species? Round this neck of the woods
Malva sylvestris is rose-flowered, not violet-flowered.

Well the stuff we call mallow is most certainly violet, quite a pale
violet admittedly.

Or do you mean pale magenta, or even mauve by any chance? Pale violet is blue

BTW, Malva sylvestris is said to be Glyphosate-resistant.

It's also a bit big/upright for growing in lawns. Malva pucilla or M.
neglecta, maybe.

That doesn't surprise me, it's certainly very difficult to get rid of.
It manages to survive on the lawn lying flat and at the other extreme
will grow into quite a sizeable bush. It seems to me that it's much
commoner nowadays than it used to be.

We have white ones growing locally.

I suppose the plant couldn't be one of the greaniums? G. pratense
perhaps? Those flowers might qualify for pale violet.

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While we're on the subject of violet/purple-coloured flowers in lawns,
I've
got another one: it has just started flowering, slightly fleshy, rounded
leaves and a short "loo-brush-shaped" head. Any ideas?

This first comes to mind.
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/e..._selfheal.html

Yes, it is self-heal, thanks - and very pretty it is too - will definitely
stay in the lawn although it does seem to be growing at a rate of knots.

In message , writes
wrote:
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , writes
This sounds like mallow as opposed to any sort of violet.

It's the bane of our lives here in Suffolk nowadays.

Malva sylvestris or some other species? Round this neck of the woods
Malva sylvestris is rose-flowered, not violet-flowered.

Well the stuff we call mallow is most certainly violet, quite a pale
violet admittedly.

Walking past one just now I suppose you could call it pink/rose,
though others are definitely more violet.

The cultivated forms are rose, violet, magenta, white or blue (but the
blues may be hybrids - all the blues I've seen have been sterile).
Around here the wild forms are pretty consistently rose, tho' the colour
depends somewhat on the light - I turned my head to look at a 'Bibor
Felho' (which is magenta), and in the evening light it was looking red.

It doesn't seem to be a problem round here - it's mainly a plant of
sunny hedges and verges. (But the 3m plus specimen is by a canal
towpath.)

I have difficulty overwintering Malva sylvestris, tho' I don't suppose
last summer's rust massacre helped.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

In article , pammyT
writes
That's pretty. I think I have some of that growing. I'm one of those odd
gardeners who will keep pretty weeds and don't actually like plain boring
green shaved lawns, neat edges,and flowers planted by the book. If I have a
space I plant summat irregardless of the size, shape etc. My flower garden
is a wild jumble of colours, shapes, sizes etc and I love the fact that it
looks different from different angles.

You're not alone. I'm gradually managing to increase the number of
flowers in the lawn, and what I really enjoy is that it takes me a good
half hour to walk around the garden each day because there's so much to
look at.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:25:05 +0000, clivedown
wrote:


I've now bought a pack of Verdone Extra and sprayed it all over my
violets. I think the lawn feed and weed acted as a fertiliser for the
violets but killed off huge swathes of lawn surrounding the clumps.
Only goes to shows how much I put on them!

Did you watch the gardening programme tonight where they built a very
steep garden in Dartmouth and were planting plug plants of wild
flowers in the grassy tumps!


Pam in Bristol

On 8/7/05 22:25, in article , "Pam
Moore" wrote:

On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:25:05 +0000, clivedown
wrote:


I've now bought a pack of Verdone Extra and sprayed it all over my
violets. I think the lawn feed and weed acted as a fertiliser for the
violets but killed off huge swathes of lawn surrounding the clumps.
Only goes to shows how much I put on them!

Did you watch the gardening programme tonight where they built a very
steep garden in Dartmouth and were planting plug plants of wild
flowers in the grassy tumps!


Yes! And we both thought "there speaks urg"!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

All we need are a couple of gardening programmes to extoll the virtues of
the latest thing in lawns being purple flowers and people will be
desperately trying to get these flowers to grow :0)



Ah-ha! Your wish is their command - Malva did get mentioned on the Hampton
Court Flower Show programme tonight - not actually as a lawn plant but as an
edible plant!

In message , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes

BTW, Malva sylvestris is said to be Glyphosate-resistant.

It's also a bit big/upright for growing in lawns. Malva pucilla or M.
neglecta, maybe.

It survives in mown verges.

That doesn't surprise me, it's certainly very difficult to get rid of.
It manages to survive on the lawn lying flat and at the other extreme
will grow into quite a sizeable bush. It seems to me that it's much
commoner nowadays than it used to be.

We have white ones growing locally.

Would that be the white(ish) with pink veins, or a genuine white? Also,
wild, feral or cultivated?

I

--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

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from Stewart Robert Hinsley contains these words:
In message , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes

BTW, Malva sylvestris is said to be Glyphosate-resistant.

It's also a bit big/upright for growing in lawns. Malva pucilla or M.
neglecta, maybe.

It survives in mown verges.

But not mown closely and regularly like a lawn.

That doesn't surprise me, it's certainly very difficult to get rid of.
It manages to survive on the lawn lying flat and at the other extreme
will grow into quite a sizeable bush. It seems to me that it's much
commoner nowadays than it used to be.

We have white ones growing locally.

Would that be the white(ish) with pink veins, or a genuine white? Also,
wild, feral or cultivated?

No, it would be pure white - snow white. But with cut leaves like the
musk mallow - Malva moschata variant heterophylla. I'll sniff one next
time I see one and see if it is M. moschata.

I don't know whether it's indigenous, feral or a cultivated plant. It's
not anything I've ever seen in a seed catalogue or a nursery.

--
Rusty
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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

In message , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes
No, it would be pure white - snow white. But with cut leaves like the
musk mallow - Malva moschata variant heterophylla. I'll sniff one next
time I see one and see if it is M. moschata.

Another alternative would be Malva alcea 'Alba'. There's also the hybrid
Malva x intermedia (alcea x moschata), and allegedly a hybrid Malva x
inodora (moschata x sylvestris).

At least some plants of Malva sylvestris are scented.

I don't know whether it's indigenous, feral or a cultivated plant. It's
not anything I've ever seen in a seed catalogue or a nursery.

--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
http://www.malvaceae.info/Genera/Malva/Bismalva.php
http://www.malvaceae.info/Genera/Malva/alba.php

In article , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes

No, it would be pure white - snow white. But with cut leaves like the
musk mallow - Malva moschata variant heterophylla. I'll sniff one next
time I see one and see if it is M. moschata.

I don't know whether it's indigenous, feral or a cultivated plant. It's
not anything I've ever seen in a seed catalogue or a nursery.

I once bought a packet of M moschata seed, and they were mixed, some
pink, some white. I encourage the white ones.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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from Stewart Robert Hinsley contains these words:
In message , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes

No, it would be pure white - snow white. But with cut leaves like the
musk mallow - Malva moschata variant heterophylla. I'll sniff one next
time I see one and see if it is M. moschata.

Another alternative would be Malva alcea 'Alba'. There's also the hybrid
Malva x intermedia (alcea x moschata), and allegedly a hybrid Malva x
inodora (moschata x sylvestris).

At least some plants of Malva sylvestris are scented.

I don't know whether it's indigenous, feral or a cultivated plant. It's
not anything I've ever seen in a seed catalogue or a nursery.

Found one on a bank beside the road. Assuming the bank isn't cut again
till autumn, do you want some seeds?

--
Rusty
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