On Feb 1, 8:56*am, nick hull wrote:
In article ,

*"Bob" wrote:
election or vote third party. I know know who will win the
Democratic
nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our
next
president.

Personally, I couldn't agree more - As a Republican who first voted
for Ike in 1956, I will not vote for McCain. *Won't vote Libertarian
because of their stance on Iraq. *Will probably skip voting for a
prez for the first time in my life.
Bob-tx

I really hate to say this, but a Democrat (even Hillary!) might be
better than McCain for the 2nd amendment. *The NRA will fight a
democratic president tooth and nail, but would compromise our rights
away with a republican ;(

Now that is laughable. When did you ever see the NRA compromise with
anyone? They have their own paid special interest group that pays
their salaries and sends money in buckets. There is no reason they
would cave in to McCain or anyone else who happens to be president.



Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/

On Jan 31, 3:44Â*pm, " wrote:
On Jan 31, 3:11�pm, MajorOz wrote:





On Jan 31, 9:03 am, Comics Momma WebTV wrote:

He McCain is a lefty pinko.
Did not fight in viet nam, helped and assisted the viet cong by
turning himself in and being a prisoner.
Real patriot would not have surrendered. � Pinkos surrender. � My son
comic would not have surrendered, he would hide under his bed like
during this war.

...realizing I may be feeding a troll.......

John McCain is one of the bravest, giving, and honorable men ever to
have served his country. �He is deserving of the highest levels of
respect.
People of good intent my not want him to be president, based on
political views, but that does not detract from his lifetime of
dedication to his heritage and nation.

cheers

oz, who has, for the first time since voting age, no candidate. �If
only I could cut and paste from those running.

he was a hero, but whats left is a shell of what WAS a great american.

he is a war monger, wants to remain in iraq for 20 years or more as a
occupying force.

By that standard, every president since WWII has been a war monger.
We still have troups in Japan, Germany, South Korea, and half a dozen
other places, don't we? Have the results of that been bad? Any
candidates advocating withdrawing them from there?

One of the big complaints from liberals was that the US abandoned
Afghanistan after the Soviets withdrew. Yet, when we propose to
remain, that's supposed to be war mongering. 20-20 hindsight is real
convenient.





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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:24:20 -0500, Shawn Hirn
wrote:

In article
,
Doobie Keebler wrote:

There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/
Obama

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a
lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious
wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this
election or vote third party.

Interesting addition to that discussion:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...er-i-will.html

Coulter: I Will Vote for Hillary Over McCain
February 01, 2008 10:38 AM

In case you missed it, on Hannity & Colmes last night, controversial
pundit Ann Coulter -- who supports Mitt Romney for president -- said
she would back Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, over Sen. John McCain,
R-Ariz.

"She's more conservative that he is," she said. "She will be stronger
on the war on terrorism...I will campaign for her if it's McCain."...

OTOH, with friends like that, who needs enemies?

Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article
,
Doobie Keebler wrote:

On Jan 31, 2:44 pm, " wrote:

John McCain .. wants to remain in iraq for 20 years...
This is why McCain is not electable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM&NR=1

"100 Years In Iraq" is not a good campaign slogan for 2008.
Nobody wants their grandkids to still be fighting this war.


Rudy's toast, Huckabee is a religious nut, Mitt is a douchebag,
so that leaves St. John of McCain and his Holy War.

There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/
Obama

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a
lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious
wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this
election or vote third party. I know know who will win the Democratic
nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our next
president.

Don't know, there are more people in the middle than you think. The best
thing that happened to McCain is having Limbaugh declare that it will be
the death of the Republican party. There are many people who sit a
little right of center who don't care for the full bore anything is OK
as long as a couple greedy reach guys profit from it system who find
McCain attractive. And of the thinking voters I know (not the I only
drink red or blue Koolaid people) they have said they would never
consider voting for Hillary if she should get the nomination.

Don Homuth wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:24:20 -0500, Shawn Hirn
wrote:

In article
,
Doobie Keebler wrote:

There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/
Obama
I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a
lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious
wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this
election or vote third party.

Interesting addition to that discussion:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...er-i-will.html

Coulter: I Will Vote for Hillary Over McCain
February 01, 2008 10:38 AM

In case you missed it, on Hannity & Colmes last night, controversial
pundit Ann Coulter -- who supports Mitt Romney for president -- said
she would back Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, over Sen. John McCain,
R-Ariz.

"She's more conservative that he is," she said. "She will be stronger
on the war on terrorism...I will campaign for her if it's McCain."...

OTOH, with friends like that, who needs enemies?

The right wing extremists are just piling on after Limbaugh declared
that the Republican party would be dead with McCain. I think there are a
lot more people in the middle than there are red or blue Koolaid
drinkers and I think making that declaration is a good thing.

Bob wrote:

Personally, I couldn't agree more - As a Republican who first voted
for Ike in 1956, I will not vote for McCain. Won't vote Libertarian
because of their stance on Iraq. Will probably skip voting for a
prez for the first time in my life.
Bob-tx

Four reasons to vote for McCain if he's the nominee:

John Paul Stevens
Anthony M. Kennedy
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Steven G. Breyer

In article ,
George wrote:

Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article
,
Doobie Keebler wrote:

On Jan 31, 2:44 pm, " wrote:

John McCain .. wants to remain in iraq for 20 years...
This is why McCain is not electable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM&NR=1

"100 Years In Iraq" is not a good campaign slogan for 2008.
Nobody wants their grandkids to still be fighting this war.


Rudy's toast, Huckabee is a religious nut, Mitt is a douchebag,
so that leaves St. John of McCain and his Holy War.

There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/
Obama

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a
lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious
wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this
election or vote third party. I know know who will win the Democratic
nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our next
president.

Don't know, there are more people in the middle than you think. The best
thing that happened to McCain is having Limbaugh declare that it will be
the death of the Republican party. There are many people who sit a
little right of center who don't care for the full bore anything is OK
as long as a couple greedy reach guys profit from it system who find
McCain attractive. And of the thinking voters I know (not the I only
drink red or blue Koolaid people) they have said they would never
consider voting for Hillary if she should get the nomination.

So, if Obama gets nominated, you just know that some folks are gonna' go
bullet shopping. Best thing for Obama would be to have Hillary for his
running mate. Yes sir, that would give them big-ots somethin' to
ruminate about. Hell, it worked for George Bush. Why do you think he is
still alive? Big Dick Cheney, that's why. Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, just a nasty
thought to think about.

Yo. Go 'Bama. Make their eyes bug-out:-)
--

Billy

Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...917874,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

mc cain a war monger who wants to keep a occupying force in iraq for a
100 years, isnt electable unless terrorists attack before the next
election.

oddly enough if he gets elected and occupies forever, that will almost
guarantee more terrorist attacks here

wrote

mc cain a war monger who wants to keep a occupying force in iraq for a 100 years,

Its getting on for 60 years now with Germany, Japan, etc.

isnt electable unless terrorists attack before the next election.

Depends entirely on what unelectable fool the Democrats are stupid enough to have.

oddly enough if he gets elected and occupies forever,
that will almost guarantee more terrorist attacks here

How odd that there havent been any since 9/11.

In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

wrote

mc cain a war monger who wants to keep a occupying force in iraq for a 100
years,

Its getting on for 60 years now with Germany, Japan, etc.

isnt electable unless terrorists attack before the next election.

Depends entirely on what unelectable fool the Democrats are stupid enough to
have.

oddly enough if he gets elected and occupies forever,
that will almost guarantee more terrorist attacks here

How odd that there havent been any since 9/11.

Pfffft. He only needed one attack to get the "New American Century" up
and running. No one knew about "Echelon" (intercepting 2 billion phone
calls a day) back in 2000, the NSA could track anybody who used a phone,
and they were on Osama. The coincidences of 9/11 have filled many books.
Among them, it was the only day, that we know of, when the Air Force
didn't function.
--

Billy

Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...917874,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

nick hull wrote:
In article ,
"Bob" wrote:

election or vote third party. I know know who will win the
Democratic
nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our
next
president.
Personally, I couldn't agree more - As a Republican who first voted
for Ike in 1956, I will not vote for McCain. Won't vote Libertarian
because of their stance on Iraq. Will probably skip voting for a
prez for the first time in my life.
Bob-tx

I really hate to say this, but a Democrat (even Hillary!) might be
better than McCain for the 2nd amendment. The NRA will fight a
democratic president tooth and nail, but would compromise our rights
away with a republican ;(

Even if Hillary 'Lady Macbeth' Clinton WAS qualified, I wouldn't vote
for her. 2 families have held the White House for 20 years- time for
somebody else. It isn't supposed to be an inherited office, by blood or
marriage.

(BTW- I have NO trouble with a woman for POTUS- just not THAT woman.)

aem sends...

HeyBub wrote:

CJT wrote:

... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have
wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just
to get things back close to normal.


If you're not with us, you're on the side of the terrorists.

On a more practical level, the GOP is in nomination disarray. I predict that
JEB Bush will be the nominee! After eight years with JEB (leading us to
security, hegemony, and prosperity), it'll be time for that good-looking
Bush Hispanic nephew. By the end of his two terms, the dynasty will be well
established.

After that, it's only a small step to a monarchy, which is what we
Republicans are really working for.

Don't tell anybody!


The word is already out. Ain't gonna happen.

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George wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:24:20 -0500, Shawn Hirn
wrote:

In article
,
Doobie Keebler wrote:


There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/
Obama

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off
a lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious
wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out
this election or vote third party.


Interesting addition to that discussion:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...er-i-will.html

Coulter: I Will Vote for Hillary Over McCain
February 01, 2008 10:38 AM

In case you missed it, on Hannity & Colmes last night, controversial
pundit Ann Coulter -- who supports Mitt Romney for president -- said
she would back Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, over Sen. John McCain,
R-Ariz.

"She's more conservative that he is," she said. "She will be stronger
on the war on terrorism...I will campaign for her if it's McCain."...

OTOH, with friends like that, who needs enemies?


The right wing extremists are just piling on after Limbaugh declared
that the Republican party would be dead with McCain. I think there are a
lot more people in the middle than there are red or blue Koolaid
drinkers and I think making that declaration is a good thing.

How long until Limbaugh endorses Clinton?

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Rod Speed wrote:

wrote


mc cain a war monger who wants to keep a occupying force in iraq for a 100 years,


Its getting on for 60 years now with Germany, Japan, etc.


isnt electable unless terrorists attack before the next election.


Depends entirely on what unelectable fool the Democrats are stupid enough to have.


oddly enough if he gets elected and occupies forever,
that will almost guarantee more terrorist attacks here


How odd that there havent been any since 9/11.


They don't need to attack when Bush is doing their work _for_ them.

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:24:20 -0500, Shawn Hirn
wrote:

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a
lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious
wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this
election or vote third party. I know know who will win the Democratic
nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our next
president.

After seven years of the Bush, Jesus Christ himself couldn't win on
the republican line.