Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

I only use it on roses. It is all gone now and won't buy any
more next year. I do use Neem oil and another Bayer product to
try to control mites on my bamboo. If anyone knows the secret to
controlling or eradicating bamboo mites *please* let me know.

Thanks

Proper watering, cultivation, fertilization, and hygiene. If you
have mites on your bamboo, they are in some major type of stress.
Major.

Victoria

Is that how you get rid of the bamboo mites on your boo?

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:43:47 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

I only use it on roses. It is all gone now and won't buy any
more next year. I do use Neem oil and another Bayer product to
try to control mites on my bamboo. If anyone knows the secret to
controlling or eradicating bamboo mites *please* let me know.

Thanks

Proper watering, cultivation, fertilization, and hygiene. If you
have mites on your bamboo, they are in some major type of stress.
Major.

Victoria

Is that how you get rid of the bamboo mites on your boo?

I've never had mites on bamboo. However, I water properly when
needed, I cultivate properly, fertilize appropriately and clean up
broken, damaged or dead material from the ground. The plants are also
adequetly mulched. I'm not being a smart alec, but because I'm
organic, I have much less insect problems because I have green
lacewings, and many other beneficial insects.

Victoria

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

If anyone knows the secret to controlling or
eradicating bamboo mites *please* let me know.

Compost tea to develop a soil food web capable of cycling nutrients in
plant available forms...

Acts of creation are ordinarily reserved for gods and poets. To plant a pine, one need only own a shovel.
-- Aldo Leopold

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

nd another Bayer product to try to control
mites on my bamboo.


Nothing like knowing what you are spraying....
Acts of creation are ordinarily reserved for gods and poets. To plant a pine, one need only own a shovel.
-- Aldo Leopold

Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:43:47 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

I only use it on roses. It is all gone now and won't buy any
more next year. I do use Neem oil and another Bayer product
to try to control mites on my bamboo. If anyone knows the
secret to controlling or eradicating bamboo mites *please*
let me know.

Thanks

Proper watering, cultivation, fertilization, and hygiene. If
you have mites on your bamboo, they are in some major type of
stress. Major.

Victoria

Is that how you get rid of the bamboo mites on your boo?

I've never had mites on bamboo. However, I water properly when
needed, I cultivate properly, fertilize appropriately and clean up
broken, damaged or dead material from the ground. The plants are
also adequetly mulched. I'm not being a smart alec, but because I'm
organic, I have much less insect problems because I have green
lacewings, and many other beneficial insects.

Victoria

How lucky you are to have mite free bamboo.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

Tom Jaszewski wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

If anyone knows the secret to controlling or
eradicating bamboo mites *please* let me know.

Compost tea to develop a soil food web capable of cycling nutrients
in
plant available forms...

I'll get right on it.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

Tom Jaszewski wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

nd another Bayer product to try to control
mites on my bamboo.


Nothing like knowing what you are spraying....

I didn't feel like going outside and reading the label.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 06:54:37 -0700, Tom Jaszewski
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

If anyone knows the secret to controlling or
eradicating bamboo mites *please* let me know.

Compost tea to develop a soil food web capable of cycling nutrients in
plant available forms...

Acts of creation are ordinarily reserved for gods and poets. To plant a pine, one need only own a shovel.
-- Aldo Leopold

Tom, with all due respect, microbes exist in all healthy soils and can
be obtained with the application of healthy compost (not biosolids).
Clearly, I did not use aerobic comnpost tea in '93 and when I stepped
on a cultivator clear through my foot, I was infected with myriad
mycobacterium for 18 months.

So, while aerobic compost tea is a tool, it is not THE answer to all
gardening problems.

victoria

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:53:35 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:43:47 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

I only use it on roses. It is all gone now and won't buy any
more next year. I do use Neem oil and another Bayer product
to try to control mites on my bamboo. If anyone knows the
secret to controlling or eradicating bamboo mites *please*
let me know.

Thanks

Proper watering, cultivation, fertilization, and hygiene. If
you have mites on your bamboo, they are in some major type of
stress. Major.

Victoria

Is that how you get rid of the bamboo mites on your boo?

I've never had mites on bamboo. However, I water properly when
needed, I cultivate properly, fertilize appropriately and clean up
broken, damaged or dead material from the ground. The plants are
also adequetly mulched. I'm not being a smart alec, but because I'm
organic, I have much less insect problems because I have green
lacewings, and many other beneficial insects.

Victoria

How lucky you are to have mite free bamboo.

It has nothing to do with luck. Did you not just read the method I
use to make healthy the plants, which are no longer attractive to pest
insects and mites? Or, did you discount it all so you can rationalize
your use of pesticides which are outrageously toxic?

Hmmm.

Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:53:35 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:43:47 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

I only use it on roses. It is all gone now and won't buy
any more next year. I do use Neem oil and another Bayer
product to try to control mites on my bamboo. If anyone
knows the secret to controlling or eradicating bamboo
mites *please* let me know.

Thanks

Proper watering, cultivation, fertilization, and hygiene.
If you have mites on your bamboo, they are in some major
type of stress. Major.

Victoria

Is that how you get rid of the bamboo mites on your boo?

I've never had mites on bamboo. However, I water properly when
needed, I cultivate properly, fertilize appropriately and clean
up broken, damaged or dead material from the ground. The
plants are also adequetly mulched. I'm not being a smart alec,
but because I'm organic, I have much less insect problems
because I have green lacewings, and many other beneficial
insects.

Victoria

How lucky you are to have mite free bamboo.

It has nothing to do with luck. Did you not just read the method I
use to make healthy the plants, which are no longer attractive to
pest insects and mites? Or, did you discount it all so you can
rationalize your use of pesticides which are outrageously toxic?

Hmmm.

I do all those things.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:08:36 GMT, Bourne Identity
wrote:

Tom, with all due respect, microbes exist in all healthy soils

That's a good one, how many yards after years of "educated" chemical
use have "healthy soils"?

and can
be obtained with the application of healthy compost (not biosolids).

Composts can vary greatly and results like with tea can be mixed
unless we can control the biological makeup. BTW we can do that to a
point!

Clearly, I did not use aerobic comnpost tea in '93 and when I stepped
on a cultivator clear through my foot, I was infected with myriad
mycobacterium for 18 months.

I'm not sure what that proves...that mycobacterium were present
especially those that will infect humans...doesn't sound very balanced
to me! :)

So, while aerobic compost tea is a tool, it is not THE answer to all
gardening problems.

It is a major tool in soil development, and as you know disease and
insect suppression by natural methods are only possible with an
eclectic approach.

victoria
Thomas

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wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:39:40 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

If anyone knows the secret to controlling or
eradicating bamboo mites *please* let me know.

Compost tea to develop a soil food web capable of cycling nutrients in
plant available forms...

Whadda joker.
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:48:28 -0700, Tom Jaszewski
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:08:36 GMT, Bourne Identity
wrote:
-
Tom, with all due respect, microbes exist in all healthy soils

That's a good one, how many yards after years of "educated" chemical
use have "healthy soils"?

People who used chemicals do not have healthy soils. I made that
clear. Hey, I am on your side.

and can
be obtained with the application of healthy compost (not biosolids).

Composts can vary greatly and results like with tea can be mixed
unless we can control the biological makeup. BTW we can do that to a
point!

Yes, I agree, but I also said "healthy" compost. So, what people
should learn is who is making it, what is used, was it set up in wind
rows, innoculated, etc.

Clearly, I did not use aerobic comnpost tea in '93 and when I stepped
on a cultivator clear through my foot, I was infected with myriad
mycobacterium for 18 months.

I'm not sure what that proves...that mycobacterium were present
especially those that will infect humans...doesn't sound very balanced
to me! :)

In particluar, M. abesssus chelonae and it is associated with animal
manure. My last house was built on someone's farm.

So, while aerobic compost tea is a tool, it is not THE answer to all
gardening problems.

It is a major tool in soil development, and as you know disease and
insect suppression by natural methods are only possible with an
eclectic approach.

victoria

Thomas

Of course, but as we know, people are lazy, lazy, lazy. Not only
won't people take their kitchen waste to the pile, they won't HAVE a
pile. They think it's dirty, disgusting, rotting, smells, you name
it.

I remember on these boards and the boards of Prodigy way back in the
80s when Bargyla Rateaver was called a kook and a nutcase. She PROVED
a root hair can uptake a whole molecule. I have her huge volume here.
Because she published her own work, she was discounted. She dedicated
her entire life to this work and was regarded as a nut.

I'm on your side, you know that. With aerobic tea, people simply
won't make it and when they do, they are probably making it
incorrectly so it's useless for their intentions. That, was my point,
actually. Devil's advocate, so to speak.

Victoria

Bourne Identity wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:48:28 -0700, Tom Jaszewski
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:08:36 GMT, Bourne Identity
wrote:
-
Tom, with all due respect, microbes exist in all healthy soils

That's a good one, how many yards after years of "educated"
chemical use have "healthy soils"?

People who used chemicals do not have healthy soils. I made that
clear. Hey, I am on your side.

and can
be obtained with the application of healthy compost (not
biosolids).

Composts can vary greatly and results like with tea can be mixed
unless we can control the biological makeup. BTW we can do that
to a point!

Yes, I agree, but I also said "healthy" compost. So, what people
should learn is who is making it, what is used, was it set up in
wind rows, innoculated, etc.

How is setting up compost in wind rows important?


Clearly, I did not use aerobic comnpost tea in '93 and when I
stepped on a cultivator clear through my foot, I was infected
with myriad mycobacterium for 18 months.

I'm not sure what that proves...that mycobacterium were present
especially those that will infect humans...doesn't sound very
balanced to me! :)

In particluar, M. abesssus chelonae and it is associated with animal
manure. My last house was built on someone's farm.

So, while aerobic compost tea is a tool, it is not THE answer
to all gardening problems.

It is a major tool in soil development, and as you know disease
and insect suppression by natural methods are only possible with
an eclectic approach.

victoria

Thomas

Of course, but as we know, people are lazy, lazy, lazy. Not only
won't people take their kitchen waste to the pile, they won't HAVE a
pile. They think it's dirty, disgusting, rotting, smells, you name
it.

I remember on these boards and the boards of Prodigy way back in the
80s when Bargyla Rateaver was called a kook and a nutcase. She
PROVED a root hair can uptake a whole molecule. I have her huge
volume here. Because she published her own work, she was
discounted. She dedicated her entire life to this work and was
regarded as a nut.

I'm on your side, you know that. With aerobic tea, people simply
won't make it and when they do, they are probably making it
incorrectly so it's useless for their intentions. That, was my
point, actually. Devil's advocate, so to speak.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:16:27 GMT, "Travis"
wrote:

How is setting up compost in wind rows important?

It is the most effective way to culture the biology and manage the
thermophilic processes needed to truly finish the compost.