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A Quest for Fire...I mean...Potash
I called two more garden centers yesterday. One can order Potash, and the
other may have 2 bags in storage. I have to call back today. I was told by one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true, but living this close to DC, I guess it could make sense. Anyway, still no potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing. -- BenignVanilla Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond |
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Do you have a store that specializes in hydroponics anywhere around where
you live? That's where I found mine. You pay through the nose for it compared to "regular" garden centers, but if you can't find it cheaply, it may be better to get it ANYwhere and have it while you're looking for a "cheap" supply. I think I got a 3 lb. box for $5 or so . . . you only need a Tbs. per 1,000 gallons, so it's still relatively inexpensive. Lee "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... I called two more garden centers yesterday. One can order Potash, and the other may have 2 bags in storage. I have to call back today. I was told by one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true, but living this close to DC, I guess it could make sense. Anyway, still no potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing. -- BenignVanilla Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond |
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A Quest for Fire...I mean...Potash
Nice pictures on the website. I am in MD also, my lillies are doing the same
thing. I thought it was just life cycle. New pads are stsrting to pop up. Joann "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... I called two more garden centers yesterday. One can order Potash, and the other may have 2 bags in storage. I have to call back today. I was told by one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true, but living this close to DC, I guess it could make sense. Anyway, still no potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing. -- BenignVanilla Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond |
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BV wrote the prime ingredient in bombs
Here's an interesting article about another ponder's useful item, potassium permanganate, and the law...... http://members.aol.com/roark7/private/pprant.htm k30a yearly brother website posting http://www.30acreimaging.com/ |
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"FBCS" wrote in message ... Nice pictures on the website. I am in MD also, my lillies are doing the same thing. I thought it was just life cycle. New pads are stsrting to pop up. Joann My lettuce is yellowing. My Lotus is yellowing. My lilies are yellowing. This has got to be a nutrient issue. BV. |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:59:11 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
wrote: I was told by one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true Not true ... IIRC Ammonium Nitrate is the chemical they used while also a fertilizer it is not related to potash... (no) potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing. FWIW potash encourages growth .. more and bigger leaves/longer stems and roots. If your plants are yellowing you need to encourage photosyntheses ... to do this you are looking at adding Nitrogen Iron Magnesium Sulphur Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000 If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the nitrogen. |
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"ajames54" wrote in message
... On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:59:11 -0400, "BenignVanilla" wrote: I was told by one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true Not true ... IIRC Ammonium Nitrate is the chemical they used while also a fertilizer it is not related to potash... (no) potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing. FWIW potash encourages growth .. more and bigger leaves/longer stems and roots. If your plants are yellowing you need to encourage photosyntheses ... to do this you are looking at adding Nitrogen Iron Magnesium Sulphur Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000 If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the nitrogen. Would it be a viable solution to start feeding my fish a bit now? BV. |
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"ajames54" wrote in message
... On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:59:11 -0400, "BenignVanilla" wrote: I was told by one that it was difficult to get because it is the prime ingredient in bombs used to blow up buildings in Oklahoma. I don't know if that is true Not true ... IIRC Ammonium Nitrate is the chemical they used while also a fertilizer it is not related to potash... (no) potash in hand, and my plants are yellowing. FWIW potash encourages growth .. more and bigger leaves/longer stems and roots. If your plants are yellowing you need to encourage photosyntheses ... to do this you are looking at adding Nitrogen Iron Magnesium Sulphur Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000 If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the nitrogen. Would it be a viable solution to start feeding my fish a bit now? BV. |
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"ajames54" wrote in message
... snip Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000 If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the nitrogen. Since I seem to have some difficulty in finding additives in my area, what are your thoughts on using some standard fertilizers in small quantities? Dissolved into the pond water? Maybe plant spikes for the pots in question? BV. |
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BenignVanilla wrote: "ajames54" wrote in message ... snip Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000 If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the nitrogen. Since I seem to have some difficulty in finding additives in my area, what are your thoughts on using some standard fertilizers in small quantities? Dissolved into the pond water? Maybe plant spikes for the pots in question? BV. cobining answers to two posts here if your plants and most of thier roots are in the pot yes the fert sticks would work. I suppose you can have too many plants, and run low on nutrients, what I have been doing since my stock of fertilizer makers has gone way down and my plants are not poted is add a package of Miracle grow to the veggie filter when the plants start lookin poorly. if you do this youll have to guestimate the dosage, I add one pk to 5000 gallons, it did spark a small algae bloom, giving the water a slight green tint -- John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:12:07 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
wrote: "ajames54" wrote in message .. . snip Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000 If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the nitrogen. Since I seem to have some difficulty in finding additives in my area, what are your thoughts on using some standard fertilizers in small quantities? Dissolved into the pond water? Maybe plant spikes for the pots in question? BV. (many/most) fertilizers use the anhydrous ammonia for the Nitrogen component .. this can be dangerous. Years ago I almost killed my fish by using a plant spike as recommended by my pond store. ... Before using any of them I would recommend testing them by taking a few gallons of pond water out and putting a tiny amount of the fertilizer in that water .. then test for ammonia and nitrates. If the ammonia levels don't change then you should be safe (but check you fish carefully just in case). If you can't find things specifically for ponds, here are some other ways to get what you are after Nitrogen - Potassium Nitrate is the most harmless way to add it (other than adding fish waste) it can sometimes be found at a drug store under its own name or Salt Peter (sometimes available at garden stores as salt peter). It is also ingredient in most stump removers, stump rotters so a decent hardware store should have it. The potassium is also important and would reduce the need for potash... Potash is Potassium and is available in a number of ways... As above is one way but not the best... you would need to dose your pond to the Nitrate level that would still leave you short of Potassium. At a good garden store it would be sold as either Muriate of Potash (Potassium Chloride) Sulfate of Potash (Potassium Sulfate) 0-0-22 fertilizer 0-0-60 fertilizer The good thing about Potash is that it is very hard to overdose. Sulfate of Potash also provides sulfur which is an important micro nutrient. |
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"johnrutz" wrote in message
... snip if your plants and most of thier roots are in the pot yes the fert sticks would work. I suppose you can have too many plants, and run low on nutrients, what I have been doing since my stock of fertilizer makers has gone way down and my plants are not poted is add a package of Miracle grow to the veggie filter when the plants start lookin poorly. if you do this youll have to guestimate the dosage, I add one pk to 5000 gallons, it did spark a small algae bloom, giving the water a slight green tint snip Do you mean the powder? That is fish safe? I have some MG at home now, and could do it tonight. BV. |
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ajames54 wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:12:07 -0400, "BenignVanilla" wrote: Since I seem to have some difficulty in finding additives in my area, what are your thoughts on using some standard fertilizers in small quantities? Dissolved into the pond water? Maybe plant spikes for the pots in question? BV, I found potassium permanganate (Fer-Sul) and potassium chloride (potash) at Culligan's this week. Maybe check to see if there's a Culligan's in your area, or other water treatment company. (Wendy in Oregon, thanks for that tip -- couldn't find potash at any local garden stores including Coastal Farm.) [I haven't seen the original message in this thread yet, so don't know if this is a complete answer to your question.] -- Kathy B, zookeeper 3500gal pond, 13 pond piggies Oregon, Zone 6 |
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"BenignVanilla" wrote:
"ajames54" wrote in message .. . snip Since adding Nitrogen can cause an algae bloom I prefer to start by adding epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) at 1 tsp/1000 gallons then chealated Iron 7% at 1/2 tsp /1000 If this does not help and it looks like I need to add nitrogen I remove plants and start feeding the fish more they can supply the nitrogen. Since I seem to have some difficulty in finding additives in my area, what are your thoughts on using some standard fertilizers in small quantities? Dissolved into the pond water? Maybe plant spikes for the pots in question? I saw a bag of potassium cloride in the water softner salt section of my local home center. It is used by people that are sodium sensitive for their water softner. |
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"zookeeper" wrote in message
... ajames54 wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:12:07 -0400, "BenignVanilla" wrote: Since I seem to have some difficulty in finding additives in my area, what are your thoughts on using some standard fertilizers in small quantities? Dissolved into the pond water? Maybe plant spikes for the pots in question? BV, I found potassium permanganate (Fer-Sul) and potassium chloride (potash) at Culligan's this week. Maybe check to see if there's a Culligan's in your area, or other water treatment company. (Wendy in Oregon, thanks for that tip -- couldn't find potash at any local garden stores including Coastal Farm.) [I haven't seen the original message in this thread yet, so don't know if this is a complete answer to your question.] I just called them. They said they had pellets, but nobody was available in the retail dept. so I'll have to call back for price and availability. So do you think I could crush the pellets? Or just toss a few in and let them dissolve in the VF? BV. |
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