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Still green...
http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/
check that out.. i post new pictures of my more than once a week on here.. im making a diary basically of the progression of my pond. its been a few weeks and my water is still green/murky.. it just wont go away.. maybe a veggie filter and everything. i just bough more potted lillies so im waiting for them to come up. and i have a bunch of lillies that bloomed already. what can i do about this water clarity... im guessing its time |
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Destroyallx wrote maybe a veggie filter
That would certainly help. But remember the last of the algae tips ~ patience and time ;-) kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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In article , Destroyallx
wrote: http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/ check that out.. i post new pictures of my more than once a week on here.. im making a diary basically of the progression of my pond. its been a few weeks and my water is still green/murky.. it just wont go away.. maybe a veggie filter and everything. i just bough more potted lillies so im waiting for them to come up. and i have a bunch of lillies that bloomed already. what can i do about this water clarity... im guessing its time Or a UV filter and enjoy clear water in 2 or 3 days. jay Tue May 25, 2004 |
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It isn't easy being green!
Kermit -- ____________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Ask me about Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $120+ per child) at: jogathon.net "Destroyallx" wrote in message .. . http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/ check that out.. i post new pictures of my more than once a week on here.. im making a diary basically of the progression of my pond. its been a few weeks and my water is still green/murky.. it just wont go away.. maybe a veggie filter and everything. i just bough more potted lillies so im waiting for them to come up. and i have a bunch of lillies that bloomed already. what can i do about this water clarity... im guessing its time |
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"Ka30P" wrote in message ... Destroyallx wrote maybe a veggie filter That would certainly help. But remember the last of the algae tips ~ patience and time ;-) Uh not to be nit picky, but I think that is now officially the second to last tip, with beer being the actual last tip. BV. |
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It appears that you have an upper pond where you have some small water
lettuce (not a plant I would choose for filtering). Use water hyacinths in there and it will do a remarkable job of filtering your water. From what I can tell you have bare soil that is at a higher level than your pond. As soon as this fills in with plants you will stop getting the erosion that is making the pond somewhat muddy. If you can put in some landscape fabric and rocks that should help (or how about planting some irises or ornamental grasses there?). Do you fertilize your lawn? If so, keep it and other chemicals far away from the pond where there is any chance of run off into the pond (so the ground the slopes away from the pond should be ok as long as you are a couple of feet away but ground that slopes towards the pond has to be treated with real care. It is a very pretty pond. Congratulations! "Destroyallx" wrote in message .. . http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/ check that out.. i post new pictures of my more than once a week on here.. im making a diary basically of the progression of my pond. its been a few weeks and my water is still green/murky.. it just wont go away.. maybe a veggie filter and everything. i just bough more potted lillies so im waiting for them to come up. and i have a bunch of lillies that bloomed already. what can i do about this water clarity... im guessing its time |
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"Destroyallx" wrote in
: http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/ check that out.. i post new pictures of my more than once a week on here.. im making a diary basically of the progression of my pond. its been a few weeks and my water is still green/murky.. it just wont go away.. maybe a veggie filter and everything. i just bough more potted lillies so im waiting for them to come up. and i have a bunch of lillies that bloomed already. what can i do about this water clarity... im guessing its time UV... I went a whole spring and much of summer with the same water and listening to others advice about more plants, good bacteria, biological filter, blah, blah, blah, and to just be patient and don't bother with a UV.. Well, I got tired of being patient, bought a UV and within a week or so, crystal clear water... It has been crystal clear ever since... If you are like me and don't care immensely about the NATURAL process of clarity and just want a clear pond w/ healthy fish and plants; don't rule out buying a UV... I enjoy my pond much more seeing the colors in my fish down to the anacharis coming out of my gravel bottom. -- B. Swanky - Boutique Giftware with Flair! Specializes in clothing and gifts for infant, baby and toddler. We also carry upscale handbags and accessories for women. http://www.bswanky.com |
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If you take a look at the pictures, you will see that it is more than just
an issue of algae. The hyacinths not only take the nutrients out of the water that keeps algae growing, they filter out the soil particles. They are also almost maintenance free where a filter takes a lot of time and effort especially under conditions where you have soil eroding into the pond (note I say filter because even with a UV you then have to have some sort of filtering if you go your route). UV lights are expensive and unnecessary in my book but whatever tweaks your fancy. "Jeff Spicoli" wrote in message 45... "Destroyallx" wrote in : http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/ check that out.. i post new pictures of my more than once a week on here.. im making a diary basically of the progression of my pond. its been a few weeks and my water is still green/murky.. it just wont go away.. maybe a veggie filter and everything. i just bough more potted lillies so im waiting for them to come up. and i have a bunch of lillies that bloomed already. what can i do about this water clarity... im guessing its time UV... I went a whole spring and much of summer with the same water and listening to others advice about more plants, good bacteria, biological filter, blah, blah, blah, and to just be patient and don't bother with a UV.. Well, I got tired of being patient, bought a UV and within a week or so, crystal clear water... It has been crystal clear ever since... If you are like me and don't care immensely about the NATURAL process of clarity and just want a clear pond w/ healthy fish and plants; don't rule out buying a UV... I enjoy my pond much more seeing the colors in my fish down to the anacharis coming out of my gravel bottom. -- B. Swanky - Boutique Giftware with Flair! Specializes in clothing and gifts for infant, baby and toddler. We also carry upscale handbags and accessories for women. http://www.bswanky.com |
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In article , dkat
wrote: If you take a look at the pictures, you will see that it is more than just an issue of algae. The hyacinths not only take the nutrients out of the water that keeps algae growing, they filter out the soil particles. They are also almost maintenance free where a filter takes a lot of time and effort especially under conditions where you have soil eroding into the pond (note I say filter because even with a UV you then have to have some sort of filtering if you go your route). UV lights are expensive and unnecessary in my book but whatever tweaks your fancy. How much personal experience do you have with them? jay Wed May 26, 2004 "Jeff Spicoli" wrote in message 45... "Destroyallx" wrote in : http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/ check that out.. i post new pictures of my more than once a week on here.. im making a diary basically of the progression of my pond. its been a few weeks and my water is still green/murky.. it just wont go away.. maybe a veggie filter and everything. i just bough more potted lillies so im waiting for them to come up. and i have a bunch of lillies that bloomed already. what can i do about this water clarity... im guessing its time UV... I went a whole spring and much of summer with the same water and listening to others advice about more plants, good bacteria, biological filter, blah, blah, blah, and to just be patient and don't bother with a UV.. Well, I got tired of being patient, bought a UV and within a week or so, crystal clear water... It has been crystal clear ever since... If you are like me and don't care immensely about the NATURAL process of clarity and just want a clear pond w/ healthy fish and plants; don't rule out buying a UV... I enjoy my pond much more seeing the colors in my fish down to the anacharis coming out of my gravel bottom. -- B. Swanky - Boutique Giftware with Flair! Specializes in clothing and gifts for infant, baby and toddler. We also carry upscale handbags and accessories for women. http://www.bswanky.com |
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"Destroyallx" wrote in message .. . http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/ check that out.. i post new pictures of my more than once a week on here.. im making a diary basically of the progression of my pond. its been a few weeks and my water is still green/murky.. it just wont go away.. maybe a veggie filter and everything. i just bough more potted lillies so im waiting for them to come up. and i have a bunch of lillies that bloomed already. what can i do about this water clarity... im guessing its time Nice pond. IMHO, it's all about oxygen. The bacteria that help reduce the nutrient load need lots of oxygen. Get some serious water flow/circulation/gas exchange going on. In your case, a submersible pump/fountain in the middle of the pond may work. Otherwise it looks like it wouldn't be real difficult to add a (much larger) homemade bio/mechanical filter with spray bar at the top of the waterfall and hide it with more rocks/plants. A larger pump/tubing may be in order if you do that, though. |
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UV's - none. I don't use them for a reason though I have a friend who had a
very small pond who used one and had crystal clear water. Her pond however was in a deck (no silt runoff into the pond), was very shaded (that in itself will keep the algae down) and was extremely small (maybe 3X3x1.5). I'm not against UV, I just said that this pond has silt eroding into it and needs more than a simple UV fix. I like my almost 'natural' way of doing things but that is what tickles my 'fancy'. I'm also extremely lazy, overworked, underpaid, 5'2", 55 yrs, out of shape, etc... I don't have the time, energy, muscle or patience to do what a lot of ponders here do. My setup is extremely simple, relatively small (about 1000 gals at most) and crystal clear most of the time with very, very, little work involved (I throw food at the fish, add water when needed, watch the cats make fools of themselves lusting after the fish). My biggest concern is my three butterfly koi and my albino cat getting too big for the pond and not knowing what to do other than build a bigger pond -- *************************************** Listen to Air America Radio http://www.airamericaradio.com *************************************** "Go Fig" wrote in message ... In article , dkat wrote: If you take a look at the pictures, you will see that it is more than just an issue of algae. The hyacinths not only take the nutrients out of the water that keeps algae growing, they filter out the soil particles. They are also almost maintenance free where a filter takes a lot of time and effort especially under conditions where you have soil eroding into the pond (note I say filter because even with a UV you then have to have some sort of filtering if you go your route). UV lights are expensive and unnecessary in my book but whatever tweaks your fancy. How much personal experience do you have with them? jay Wed May 26, 2004 "Jeff Spicoli" wrote in message 45... "Destroyallx" wrote in : http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/ check that out.. i post new pictures of my more than once a week on here.. im making a diary basically of the progression of my pond. its been a few weeks and my water is still green/murky.. it just wont go away.. maybe a veggie filter and everything. i just bough more potted lillies so im waiting for them to come up. and i have a bunch of lillies that bloomed already. what can i do about this water clarity... im guessing its time UV... I went a whole spring and much of summer with the same water and listening to others advice about more plants, good bacteria, biological filter, blah, blah, blah, and to just be patient and don't bother with a UV.. Well, I got tired of being patient, bought a UV and within a week or so, crystal clear water... It has been crystal clear ever since... If you are like me and don't care immensely about the NATURAL process of clarity and just want a clear pond w/ healthy fish and plants; don't rule out buying a UV... I enjoy my pond much more seeing the colors in my fish down to the anacharis coming out of my gravel bottom. -- B. Swanky - Boutique Giftware with Flair! Specializes in clothing and gifts for infant, baby and toddler. We also carry upscale handbags and accessories for women. http://www.bswanky.com |
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Give into the dark side. You know you want to.
Joe On 5/26/04 4:01 PM, "dkat" wrote: My biggest concern is my three butterfly koi and my albino cat getting too big for the pond and not knowing what to do other than build a bigger pond -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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In article , dkat
wrote: UV's - none. I don't use them for a reason though I have a friend who had a very small pond who used one and had crystal clear water. Her pond however was in a deck (no silt runoff into the pond), was very shaded (that in itself will keep the algae down) and was extremely small (maybe 3X3x1.5). I'm not against UV, I just said that this pond has silt eroding into it and needs more than a simple UV fix. I agree the pond edge needs to be raised, but more for chemicals that may be applied to that beautiful lawn and then commingle with the pond water in heavy rain. I just don't think that that little soil border is causing that much silt and I doubt much gets past the lawn. This pic appears to be classic suspended algae: http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/DSC02147.JPG I like my almost 'natural' way of doing things but that is what tickles my 'fancy'. Lets be fair: you have a pump ? A mechanical filter (maybe) ? Would you use meds ? How bout potash for all those water hyacinths of yours? Ever drain your pond for a good cleaning ? For years here, some posters here have singled out UVs for this 'natural' argument, I don't get it... what could be more unnatural than an electric water pump ??? UV is a natural occurring action on all ponds, natural or ornamental. I'll start my campaign for venturi ozone at some point in the future :-) jay Wed May 26, 2004 I'm also extremely lazy, overworked, underpaid, 5'2", 55 yrs, out of shape, etc... I don't have the time, energy, muscle or patience to do what a lot of ponders here do. My setup is extremely simple, relatively small (about 1000 gals at most) and crystal clear most of the time with very, very, little work involved (I throw food at the fish, add water when needed, watch the cats make fools of themselves lusting after the fish). My biggest concern is my three butterfly koi and my albino cat getting too big for the pond and not knowing what to do other than build a bigger pond |
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"Go Fig" wrote in message
... In article , dkat wrote: UV's - none. I don't use them for a reason though I have a friend who had a very small pond who used one and had crystal clear water. Her pond however was in a deck (no silt runoff into the pond), was very shaded (that in itself will keep the algae down) and was extremely small (maybe 3X3x1.5). I'm not against UV, I just said that this pond has silt eroding into it and needs more than a simple UV fix. I agree the pond edge needs to be raised, but more for chemicals that may be applied to that beautiful lawn and then commingle with the pond water in heavy rain. I just don't think that that little soil border is causing that much silt and I doubt much gets past the lawn. This pic appears to be classic suspended algae: http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/DSC02147.JPG Look at the leaves of the waterlily and the horizonal sides of the liner. Both have a layer of silt. The silt will also add nutrients that make the algae flourish. Other pictures looked much more 'muddied' from silt than algae but I agree on the picture you are showing it looks like spring algae growth that I get before the hyacinth has been put into my upper pond and taken over. If they use UV, I assume they will have to filter before the UV. Is that the case? That is where in there current system would they put the UV? I like my almost 'natural' way of doing things but that is what tickles my 'fancy'. Lets be fair: you have a pump ? A mechanical filter (maybe) ? Would you use meds ? How bout potash for all those water hyacinths of yours? Ever drain your pond for a good cleaning ? This is why I said "almost 'natural'" I have a pump to move the water up to the veggie filter. The pump (waterfall pump that takes large particles) sits in a bucket with lava rocks to serve as a bio filter. I don't clean out the pond (though when wading through it to move rocks or plants I will scoop out leaves if they are under foot and feel slippery... I don't use meds or potash. I did try dunking my hyacinths in Miracle grow when I first started my pond thinking 'what could it hurt'... killed them dead. As I said, I'm lazy - really, really lazy. And now that I think of it I'm also cheap - really, really cheap. And again I don't have anything negative to say about UVs. I simply posted what works for me and is inexpensive and easy. Many far more competent people here use UV as well as incredibly impressive filters, piping, drain systems, etc. And what is venturi ozone? For years here, some posters here have singled out UVs for this 'natural' argument, I don't get it... what could be more unnatural than an electric water pump ??? UV is a natural occurring action on all ponds, natural or ornamental. I'll start my campaign for venturi ozone at some point in the future :-) jay Wed May 26, 2004 I'm also extremely lazy, overworked, underpaid, 5'2", 55 yrs, out of shape, etc... I don't have the time, energy, muscle or patience to do what a lot of ponders here do. My setup is extremely simple, relatively small (about 1000 gals at most) and crystal clear most of the time with very, very, little work involved (I throw food at the fish, add water when needed, watch the cats make fools of themselves lusting after the fish). My biggest concern is my three butterfly koi and my albino cat getting too big for the pond and not knowing what to do other than build a bigger pond |
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In article , dkat
wrote: "Go Fig" wrote in message ... In article , dkat wrote: UV's - none. I don't use them for a reason though I have a friend who had a very small pond who used one and had crystal clear water. Her pond however was in a deck (no silt runoff into the pond), was very shaded (that in itself will keep the algae down) and was extremely small (maybe 3X3x1.5). I'm not against UV, I just said that this pond has silt eroding into it and needs more than a simple UV fix. I agree the pond edge needs to be raised, but more for chemicals that may be applied to that beautiful lawn and then commingle with the pond water in heavy rain. I just don't think that that little soil border is causing that much silt and I doubt much gets past the lawn. This pic appears to be classic suspended algae: http://www.thehvscene.com/pond/DSC02147.JPG Look at the leaves of the waterlily and the horizonal sides of the liner. Both have a layer of silt. The silt will also add nutrients that make the algae flourish. Other pictures looked much more 'muddied' from silt than algae but I agree on the picture you are showing it looks like spring algae growth that I get before the hyacinth has been put into my upper pond and taken over. If they use UV, I assume they will have to filter before the UV. Is that the case? That is where in there current system would they put the UV? The less turbid the water is the more efficient, so after any mechanical filtration is better. As for the OP situation, I don't have enough details from those pics. I like my almost 'natural' way of doing things but that is what tickles my 'fancy'. Lets be fair: you have a pump ? A mechanical filter (maybe) ? Would you use meds ? How bout potash for all those water hyacinths of yours? Ever drain your pond for a good cleaning ? This is why I said "almost 'natural'" I have a pump to move the water up to the veggie filter. The pump (waterfall pump that takes large particles) sits in a bucket with lava rocks to serve as a bio filter. I don't clean out the pond (though when wading through it to move rocks or plants I will scoop out leaves if they are under foot and feel slippery... I don't use meds or potash. So you let natural selection work its magic... herons, raccoons ? I did try dunking my hyacinths in Miracle grow when I first started my pond thinking 'what could it hurt'... killed them dead. As I said, I'm lazy - really, really lazy. And now that I think of it I'm also cheap - really, really cheap. And again I don't have anything negative to say about UVs. I simply posted what works for me and is inexpensive and easy. Many far more competent people here use UV as well as incredibly impressive filters, piping, drain systems, etc. And what is venturi ozone? Straight ozone injected from a venturi fitting. Great for organic detritus. jay Wed May 26, 2004 For years here, some posters here have singled out UVs for this 'natural' argument, I don't get it... what could be more unnatural than an electric water pump ??? UV is a natural occurring action on all ponds, natural or ornamental. I'll start my campaign for venturi ozone at some point in the future :-) jay Wed May 26, 2004 I'm also extremely lazy, overworked, underpaid, 5'2", 55 yrs, out of shape, etc... I don't have the time, energy, muscle or patience to do what a lot of ponders here do. My setup is extremely simple, relatively small (about 1000 gals at most) and crystal clear most of the time with very, very, little work involved (I throw food at the fish, add water when needed, watch the cats make fools of themselves lusting after the fish). My biggest concern is my three butterfly koi and my albino cat getting too big for the pond and not knowing what to do other than build a bigger pond |
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