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Another Batch of Roses
I have the will power of a gnat. After a day-long meeting I was
relaxing looking at the Amity Heritage Roses website, drooling over the unidentified rose called "Pure Mystery," when I lost all control and ordered: Tamora, Bob's fault because he says it's great in a pot and we all know pots don't count Granada, Shiva's fault because I think I don't like HT's and then I saw the buds and had to admit publically that they were, well, beautiful Aloha because I've seen it for years and it would do so well on my wall of shame near Parade, Altissimo, Dortmund and Rosarium Uetersen, big roses you can see from two blocks away Jean Kenneally because I hate minis and this is their last chance Souv. de Mme Leonie Viennot, Allegra's fault because if she hasn't recommended it already, I'll bet she will Stanwell Perpetual, Julia's fault because she said something along the lines of, "you don't have it yet?!?" Yolande d'Aragon because I'm a glutton for punishment, see above. And I'm wait-listed probably into 2004 for Pure Mystery. |
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Cass wrote:
I have the will power of a gnat. Any gnat will tell you that willpower is highly overrated when it gets in the way of acquiring beautiful things--like roses. Tamora, Bob's fault Good for Bob! Had you asked, you might be blaming me, too. Love this little rose. Mine has never grown taller than 2 feet. Great blooms! Blooms all the time! Congrats on a great choice. Granada, Shiva's fault because I think I don't like HT's and then I saw the buds and had to admit publically that they were, well, beautiful Yippeeeee! Now you'll see why I have three! And I'm wait-listed probably into 2004 for Pure Mystery. Love this name. Can you direct me to a good photo? |
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Another Batch of Roses
"Cass"wrote
Souv. de Mme Leonie Viennot, Allegra's fault because if she hasn't recommended it already, I'll bet she will She did recommended it already -while turning green with envy- and telling you that it would do much nicely in your area than it could ever be expected to do in Portland. Gorgeous, drop dead gorgeous. She drove me to distraction when I attempted time and again to grow her here. Unfortunately my first one came from Roses of Yesterday and...never mind. No point in going there. But she likes warmth and doesn't like too much cold and in those years the climate was pretty even, more cold than warmth in Spring and thus nothing like these days and she was not happy here. Which brings me to a note about Souvenir de la Malmaison. Years ago she was a royal pain in the back. When she wasn't sulking, she was balling and when not, she was refusing to bloom. Nothing could coaxed her into doing anything logical or at least pleasant in those days. Yesterday we went out in the back and there she was, leafing like crazy, looking for all the world to see like the happiest little rose in creation. So I guess that the change in temperatures -unusual in Portland this time of the year - has its effect on her disposition. So, one good turn deserves another. Since your comment made me think that both the dear Madame Leonie Viennot and SdlM were close cousins in their behavior then, it is absolutely your fault that I am going to order her again to see if the new climate and new microclimate makes her more easily pleased. ( Unique Too dear, you are absolutely correct, do not believe a word I say about no more roses... This time is Cass' fault however.) Allegra |
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In article OM6da.131821$S_4.74761@rwcrnsc53, Allegra
wrote: "Cass"wrote Souv. de Mme Leonie Viennot, Allegra's fault because if she hasn't recommended it already, I'll bet she will She did recommended it already -while turning green with envy- and telling you that it would do much nicely in your area than it could ever be expected to do in Portland. Gorgeous, drop dead gorgeous. She drove me to distraction when I attempted time and again to grow her here. Unfortunately my first one came from Roses of Yesterday and...never mind. No point in going there. But she likes warmth and doesn't like too much cold and in those years the climate was pretty even, more cold than warmth in Spring and thus nothing like these days and she was not happy here. I thought it was you, Allegra, subliminal messages. :-) Which brings me to a note about Souvenir de la Malmaison. Years ago she was a royal pain in the back. When she wasn't sulking, she was balling and when not, she was refusing to bloom. Nothing could coaxed her into doing anything logical or at least pleasant in those days. Yesterday we went out in the back and there she was, leafing like crazy, looking for all the world to see like the happiest little rose in creation. So I guess that the change in temperatures -unusual in Portland this time of the year - has its effect on her disposition. So, one good turn deserves another. Since your comment made me think that both the dear Madame Leonie Viennot and SdlM were close cousins in their behavior then, it is absolutely your fault that I am going to order her again to see if the new climate and new microclimate makes her more easily pleased. ( Unique Too dear, you are absolutely correct, do not believe a word I say about no more roses... This time is Cass' fault however.) Oh good. We can compare notes. I've heard word that there is a virus-indexed SdlM out in commerce somewhere, I think here in California. I grow a sport which does just fine, in fact flourishes, tho it is not as beautiful as the original. I'm tempted to grow the bush form as well as SdlM Rouge. I find the scent wonderful tho not powerful. Some day. |
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In article Shiva wrote:
Cass wrote: And I'm wait-listed probably into 2004 for Pure Mystery. Love this name. Can you direct me to a good photo? Here's the page: http://www.amityheritageroses.com/HybridTeas.html |
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Cass said:
I have the will power of a gnat. I don't know..... I've dealt with some pretty determined gnats! Tamora, Bob's fault because he says it's great in a pot and we all know pots don't count Definitely, pots don't count. ( I have about 100)...... heh heh Granada, Shiva's fault because I think I don't like HT's and then I saw the buds and had to admit publically that they were, well, beautiful The great thing about Granada is that is has strong fragrance as well, the knock on it is that is doesn't repeat all that well. Aloha because I've seen it for years and it would do so well on my wall of shame Some folks say that 'Aloha' is not a good repeater as well.... sorry..... Jean Kenneally because I hate minis and this is their last chance Jean Kenneally.... the highest rated rose of all roses by the ARS. Go figure. Sorry to report that it is a mildew magnet. It is a constant bloomer with little pink exhibition shaped hybrid tea like blooms. And it is the tallest miniature I know of that is not a climber. ( 6 feet tall). Grows straight up ....... very upright. Needs deadheading for good rebloom. All in all there are much better minis in my opinion. You should not give up on minis!!! I'm begging you. What you really need is a visit to Sequoia Nursery. Then you will be converted. I swear it. (Don't judge a mini until it has been able to show you its true colors in its third year.) I think You would really like 'Climbing Rainbow's End'. It gets big and shubby with long arching canes filled with hundreds and hundreds of blooms that change color with sun exposure. From yellow to orange to red to pink to white. Everyone should grow this one. I have 3. And you don't have Jeannie La Joie? If you like polyanthas and hybrid musks, you'll love this one Bob Bauer Things really leafing out and frost expected tomorrow night waaaaaaaa!.... (crying like a baby) |
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Another Batch of Roses
Althought I knew your will power wouldn't last, I expected it to take longer
than this! vbg "Allegra" writes: So, one good turn deserves another. Since your comment made me think that both the dear Madame Leonie Viennot and SdlM were close cousins in their behavior then, it is absolutely your fault that I am going to order her again to see if the new climate and new microclimate makes her more easily pleased. ( Unique Too dear, you are absolutely correct, do not believe a word I say about no more roses... This time is Cass' fault however.) |
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Bob Bauer wrote:
Cass said: The great thing about Granada is that is has strong fragrance as well, the knock on it is that is doesn't repeat all that well. Hey, I grow once bloomers. I can put up with a lack of bloom if, when it blooms, I remember the last time and look forward to the next time. Aloha because I've seen it for years and it would do so well on my wall of shame Some folks say that 'Aloha' is not a good repeater as well.... sorry..... We'll see. It gets the same rebloom rating as other roses I put up with. Oh, lookiee. Vintage has Looping! Better hustle on over there, Bob. Jean Kenneally because I hate minis and this is their last chance Jean Kenneally.... the highest rated rose of all roses by the ARS. Go figure. Sorry to report that it is a mildew magnet. Oh great. Maybe there's still time to cancel. It is a constant bloomer with little pink exhibition shaped hybrid tea like blooms. And it is the tallest miniature I know of that is not a climber. ( 6 feet tall). Grows straight up ....... very upright. Needs deadheading for good rebloom. I can deadhead. All in all there are much better minis in my opinion. You should not give up on minis!!! I'm begging you. What you really need is a visit to Sequoia Nursery. Then you will be converted. I swear it. (Don't judge a mini until it has been able to show you its true colors in its third year.) I think You would really like 'Climbing Rainbow's End'. It gets big and shubby with long arching canes filled with hundreds and hundreds of blooms that change color with sun exposure. From yellow to orange to red to pink to white. Everyone should grow this one. I have 3. Oh, all right. Stop! Would go great on the wall of shame but it's getting crowded down there. And you don't have Jeannie La Joie? If you like polyanthas and hybrid musks, you'll love this one Ja, I have two. |
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Another Batch of Roses
Cass wrote:
Here's the page: http://www.amityheritageroses.com/HybridTeas.html Really nice. What would you call that color? Aloha totally knocked me out--it has the colors I probably love more than any others. There is pretty then there is Just Plain Delicious! |
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Bob Bauer wrote:
The great thing about Granada is that is has strong fragrance as well, the knock on it is that is doesn't repeat all that well. This is true. It is a while between flushes, but when they come they are huge and stunning. However--I'd rather have a Granada that blooms five flushes a year than any other rose in the world that stays in bloom constantly. Same with Scentimental, where the "knock" is that the blooms shatter quickly. It's the old "something eternally white is not, therefore, the whiter." Exquisite things that do not last are no less exquisite--in fact, their ephemeral nature may add to their attraction. Better a world full of tragically flawed beauties than one full of perfect run-of-the-mill things. |
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Another Batch of Roses
Cass said:
Oh, lookiee. Vintage has Looping! Better hustle on over there, Bob. Hey, thanks for the tip! I have a $60 Vintage gift certificate to use up. Do you think it will still be there when I get there in person near the end of April? Or is there going to be a run on it now..... heh |
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Another Batch of Roses
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:52:59 -0500 (EST), "Shiva"
wrote: Cass wrote: Here's the page: http://www.amityheritageroses.com/HybridTeas.html Really nice. What would you call that color? Aloha totally knocked me out--it has the colors I probably love more than any others. There is pretty then there is Just Plain Delicious! I looked at that picture of Aloha and it's a little misleading. Let me remind you what Aloha looks like in my neck of the woods (actually, in my front yard). More importantly to you, Shiva, is the strong aroma that emanates from a lush bush. As to the repeatability of the plant, it blooms very strongly from early April (if I remember correctly) until the onset of Japanese beetles the first week of July. Then, after they wipe out the blooms, it blooms intermittently until late in the season (at least it does here in Zone 6b). I wouldn't call it full flushes though, and I can't say how much the Japanese beetles (which absolutely swarm this bush) keep the plant from reblooming fully. The blooms are long-lasting on the bush. I've given up pleading with you about Felicia though chuckle. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/ALOHA.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil...%20Closeup.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/Aloha1.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/Aloha2.jpg Note that there's some variation in color in these shots. I think that the last link (and the "closeup" shot as well) most accurately depicts the "average" color of the bloom, which like just about every rose, has a bit of variation during its lifespan. When I look at the picture on the supplied link though, I don't think it looks quite like my Aloha. There's too much pale salmon in the middle. |
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Another Batch of Roses
Cass wrote in message . ..
I have the will power of a gnat. After a day-long meeting I was relaxing looking at the Amity Heritage Roses website, drooling over the unidentified rose called "Pure Mystery," when I lost all control and ordered: Tamora, Bob's fault because he says it's great in a pot and we all know pots don't count And a very good rose for growing in a pot it would be too, though I have mine in the ground. Right next to teh vermillion Orange Sunblaze. .... Jean Kenneally because I hate minis and this is their last chance Oh, dear. This one is an absolute mildew magnet at the Heritage, and only real ugly plant. Is there anyway you can undo this one on the order and get something else instead? ...... Stanwell Perpetual, .. Fabulous, fabulous rose at the Heritage. I think you would like this. Yolande d'Aragon because I'm a glutton for punishment, see above. I don't know about that, but I like the name of this rose. Tolkien sounding. And I'm wait-listed probably into 2004 for Pure Mystery. Janet does not have this grwoing right now, or what? Beautiful rose it is in the picture, and a nice name too. -- Radika |
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Shiva said:
Exquisite things that do not last are no less exquisite--in fact, their ephemeral nature may add to their attraction. Better a world full of tragically flawed beauties than one full of perfect run-of-the-mill things. Yesss grasshoppa, so true it is....... Bob B. |
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dave weil wrote:
I looked at that picture of Aloha and it's a little misleading. Let me remind you what Aloha looks like in my neck of the woods (actually, in my front yard)... As to the repeatability of the plant, it blooms very strongly from early April (if I remember correctly) until the onset of Japanese beetles the first week of July. Then, after they wipe out the blooms, it blooms intermittently until late in the season (at least it does here in Zone 6b). I wouldn't call it full flushes though, and I can't say how much the Japanese beetles (which absolutely swarm this bush) keep the plant from reblooming fully. The blooms are long-lasting on the bush. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/ALOHA.jpg Beautiful, Dave. I hope it looks like this some day! Now I'm psyched. |
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