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Home-Made fertilisers
Following my earlier posting on Nitro-Chalk, I would be pleased to hear of
anyone else's home-made fertilisers (that is, if you don't mind passing the information on!). I ask because, yesterday, I heard about a man on the allotment site who makes his own by adding Growmore, stinging nettles, and horse manure to water in a very large butt and letting it stand. I was amazed at the size and health of his crops but I haven't managed to see him yet, as we, obviously, go up there at different times but when I do I'll ask him the quatities he uses and how he uses it and hope he tells me. I've read of comfrey and stinging nettles (among other things) being used but never tried it myself, as yet so I'd love to hear of other people's favourite recipes. I ask so many questions because I'm trying to learn as much as I can about gardening before any more of my body packs up and I have to give up my beloved allotment! Anyway, thanks in advance and my best regards, John |
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On 7 Sep, 16:38, "John Vanini" wrote:
Following my earlier posting on Nitro-Chalk, I would be pleased to hear of anyone else's home-made fertilisers (that is, if you don't mind passing the information on!). I ask because, yesterday, I heard about a man on the allotment site who makes his own by adding Growmore, stinging nettles, and horse manure to water in a very large butt and letting it stand. I was amazed at the size and health of his crops but I haven't managed to see him yet, as we, obviously, go up there at different times but when I do I'll ask him the quatities he uses and how he uses it and hope he tells me. I've read of comfrey and stinging nettles (among other things) being used but never tried it myself, as yet so I'd love to hear of other people's favourite recipes. I ask so many questions because I'm trying to learn as much as I can about gardening before any more of my body packs up and I have to give up my beloved allotment! Anyway, thanks in advance and my best regards, Hi John. I wouldn't put in one bucket growmore, nettles and OM altogether - EVER! Sounds really mad and I can't imagine what would be the right amount for each. Each fertilizer has its amount of NPK - and on some instances, like for beans, I'd use OM and then later use comfrey to mulch. I use OM every year (my autumn delivery arrives tomorrow!!) which goes on top of every bed and I keep it there until I've used it all. I do nettles and comfrey, not together, but separately in different buckets (I got some amazing barrels from Mary on this forum earlier this year). These I use everywhere, for flowers and fruits. Now I'm stopping - there's no need. I'll make fresh barrels next year, as soon as the nettles arrives, because young leaves are the bestest. I use comfrey to mulch and add it on my compost pile (and box at home). I also don't get headaches with weeds and grass, as I find some to be useful as mulch. Find below a link which I think is perfect for you. It will give you the general idea of the balance in NPK and what natural fertiliser is good for from Shoddy to Green Manure! I have never used Growmore and don't intent to either. I have simpler http://www.ecodyfi.org.uk/growing/downloads/Week4.doc |
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"John Vanini" wrote in message ... Following my earlier posting on Nitro-Chalk, I would be pleased to hear of anyone else's home-made fertilisers (that is, if you don't mind passing the information on!). I ask because, yesterday, I heard about a man on the allotment site who makes his own by adding Growmore, stinging nettles, and horse manure to water in a very large butt and letting it stand. I was amazed at the size and health of his crops but I haven't managed to see him yet, as we, obviously, go up there at different times but when I do I'll ask him the quatities he uses and how he uses it and hope he tells me. I've read of comfrey and stinging nettles (among other things) being used but never tried it myself, as yet so I'd love to hear of other people's favourite recipes. I ask so many questions because I'm trying to learn as much as I can about gardening before any more of my body packs up and I have to give up my beloved allotment! Anyway, thanks in advance and my best regards, John Someone I know grows magnificent vegetables and wins at shows, constantly. He admits that he has his own recipe but he guards it jealously! Mary |
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Thanks Helene,
I was told that was what he did but the chap I was talking to may not have really known - hence my question! I will, as soon as I can I will talk to the plot holder, himself to see what he says. Thanks for your information, it's very interesting and all very welcome! I must admit that I wish I'd got an allotment many years ago as I enjoy it so much and the people are all so friendly and helpful - here and on the allotment site. I'll try that link. Kindest regards, John __________________________________________________ _ Hi John. I wouldn't put in one bucket growmore, nettles and OM altogether - EVER! Sounds really mad and I can't imagine what would be the right amount for each. Each fertilizer has its amount of NPK - and on some instances, like for beans, I'd use OM and then later use comfrey to mulch. I use OM every year (my autumn delivery arrives tomorrow!!) which goes on top of every bed and I keep it there until I've used it all. I do nettles and comfrey, not together, but separately in different buckets (I got some amazing barrels from Mary on this forum earlier this year). These I use everywhere, for flowers and fruits. Now I'm stopping - there's no need. I'll make fresh barrels next year, as soon as the nettles arrives, because young leaves are the bestest. I use comfrey to mulch and add it on my compost pile (and box at home). I also don't get headaches with weeds and grass, as I find some to be useful as mulch. Find below a link which I think is perfect for you. It will give you the general idea of the balance in NPK and what natural fertiliser is good for from Shoddy to Green Manure! I have never used Growmore and don't intent to either. I have simpler http://www.ecodyfi.org.uk/growing/downloads/Week4.doc |
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Yes, Mary, and, I must admit, you can understand it when they're entering
crops for exhibituions, I suppose - something I don't intende to do - not with the quality of crops I'm producing at the moment! Thanks and best regards John "Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... Someone I know grows magnificent vegetables and wins at shows, constantly. He admits that he has his own recipe but he guards it jealously! Mary |
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 17:45:46 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: Someone I know grows magnificent vegetables and wins at shows, constantly. He admits that he has his own recipe but he guards it jealously! Don't know about that. My late mother had a neighbour Ca 1950 who grew cabbages the size of footballs. What with poverty, food rationing and all that he was very generous and gave her plenty when he had them. One day she asked him "What do you put on them ?" "Old Wesh" he replied. "What's that ?" she asked. "Well, we keep a bucket in the bathroom" ... was the answer. At the next "neighbourhood meeting" (over the garden fence) mum was reported to have said : "And 'e's no need to come round to my 'ouse with 'is cabbages" DG |
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"Derek Geldard" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 17:45:46 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: Someone I know grows magnificent vegetables and wins at shows, constantly. He admits that he has his own recipe but he guards it jealously! Don't know about that. My late mother had a neighbour Ca 1950 who grew cabbages the size of footballs. What with poverty, food rationing and all that he was very generous and gave her plenty when he had them. One day she asked him "What do you put on them ?" "Old Wesh" he replied. "What's that ?" she asked. "Well, we keep a bucket in the bathroom" ... was the answer. At the next "neighbourhood meeting" (over the garden fence) mum was reported to have said : "And 'e's no need to come round to my 'ouse with 'is cabbages" DG Wouldn't bother me. Considering what feeds my vegetables ... Mary |
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On 7 Sep, 18:43, Derek Geldard wrote:
Don't know about that. My late mother had a neighbour Ca 1950 who grew cabbages the size of footballs. What with poverty, food rationing and all that he was very generous and gave her plenty when he had them. One day she asked him "What do you put on them ?" "Old Wesh" he replied. "What's that ?" she asked. "Well, we keep a bucket in the bathroom" ... was the answer. At the next "neighbourhood meeting" (over the garden fence) mum was reported to have said : "And 'e's no need to come round to my 'ouse with 'is cabbages" Nightsoil. I'm too scared to experiment, but I know someone who does and I've never found his crops better than with horse manure. Any crap would do I think ;o) |
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On 7 Sep, 18:04, "John Vanini" wrote:
I was told that was what he did but the chap I was talking to may not have really known - hence my question! I will, as soon as I can I will talk to the plot holder, himself to see what he says. That's the best way to get info - but your own experiences are also invaluable. Follow your instincts ) I must admit that I wish I'd got an allotment many years ago as I enjoy it so much and the people are all so friendly and helpful - here and on the allotment site. It is therapy for many in this fast moving crazy world. It is a retreat and a quiet place to find oneself. I can't imagine not having it - as much as I think I would love to own a couple of acres, I think I'd miss the people walking through and saying hi! and just standing there chitchating with a cuppa. |
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On 7 Sep, 18:45, judith wrote:
Why does it sound really mad? - just because you "can't imagine" the proportions to use does not mean it is not a sensible idea. Perhaps you should suggest to John that he tells the old man on his allotment that he doesn't know what he is doing and that he should stop and do things "your" way - despite the fact he seems to be getting fantastic results. Hello and chill. What is mad is to suggest that someone 'perhaps' is putting in a bucket some manure, followed by growmore, followed by nettles and then the lot in water. That is something I have never heard off. As John pointed out, he's not sure, he's heard that the old man is doing something with lots of stuff but not sure what. I use lots of stuff, but certainly not all in a single bucket. HTH |
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Your absolutley right! I am sometimes the first person on the allotment in
the early morning and have found myself just staring at the clouds and listening to the birds and not wanting to drag my eyes away. Another good sound at any time of the day, is that of someone else digging on a plot somewhere on the other side of the allotment! There's too much noise pollution in today's world, so it's good to get away from it. I hardly ever listen to the radio and seldom watch television (except for films! - I love films especially the old black & white ones when there was less sex, violence, and swearing and we had to make do with a good story, well-acted and well-told!) I like to hear what other people do and what they have tried, in the garden or wherever in life - nobody's experience is useless. I also like to think that I'm intelligent enough to form my own ideas from what they have said and from commonsense, logic, and my own experience. I don't believe that anyone's opinion is worthless as it can lead to an idea coming into mind that otherwise wouldn't. Anyway, I'm rattling on so had better stop! Thanks again for your replys Best regards, John wrote in message ups.com... On 7 Sep, 18:04, "John Vanini" wrote: I was told that was what he did but the chap I was talking to may not have really known - hence my question! I will, as soon as I can I will talk to the plot holder, himself to see what he says. That's the best way to get info - but your own experiences are also invaluable. Follow your instincts ) I must admit that I wish I'd got an allotment many years ago as I enjoy it so much and the people are all so friendly and helpful - here and on the allotment site. It is therapy for many in this fast moving crazy world. It is a retreat and a quiet place to find oneself. I can't imagine not having it - as much as I think I would love to own a couple of acres, I think I'd miss the people walking through and saying hi! and just standing there chitchating with a cuppa. |
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Good grief! Whatever is the matter, Judith? What Helene said was perfectly
sound and I took it the way it was intended. As I said, I was told what the plotholder (supposedly) did by his neighour, who may have got it completely wrong, but I do intend to ask the man himself. In the meantime, I thought that it would be interesting to find out what others on this newsgroup thought about it or might have some idea as to the proportions involved and if they did anything similar. There was nothing wrong with any of the answers I got, including Helene's - and it was my posting so if anyone had the right to complain, I did. But I had no need - Helene thought it was mad - so, what? What's wrong with that? It probably is! So, Judith, what do you thiink of the idea? What would you suggest? Let's have some constructive criticism and forget what's happened. I don't want any flame war or anything like that - I like to get on with people - but I don't like rudeness. It's totally unnecessary. Regards, John __________________________________________________ _____ "judith" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:59:23 -0700, wrote: Hi John. I wouldn't put in one bucket growmore, nettles and OM altogether - EVER! Sounds really mad and I can't imagine what would be the right amount for each. Why does it sound really mad? - just because you "can't imagine" the proportions to use does not mean it is not a sensible idea. Perhaps you should suggest to John that he tells the old man on his allotment that he doesn't know what he is doing and that he should stop and do things "your" way - despite the fact he seems to be getting fantastic results. |
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"John Vanini" wrote in message
... Following my earlier posting on Nitro-Chalk, I would be pleased to hear of anyone else's home-made fertilisers (that is, if you don't mind passing the information on!). I ask because, yesterday, I heard about a man on the allotment site who makes his own by adding Growmore, stinging nettles, and horse manure to water in a very large butt and letting it stand. I was amazed at the size and health of his crops but I haven't managed to see him yet, as we, obviously, go up there at different times but when I do I'll ask him the quatities he uses and how he uses it and hope he tells me. I've read of comfrey and stinging nettles (among other things) being used but never tried it myself, as yet so I'd love to hear of other people's favourite recipes. I throw whatever I have on hand into an old 44 gallon drum which has a plastic lid held down by a brick and top it up with water. I then let it fester for a few weeks. I use a big garbage bin for between times and always have one on the go and one lot brewing. The mix can include manure from horse or cow or alpacas tied up in an old bag, weeds/plants that I can't/don't compost (comfrey, dock, wire weed, marshamallow) and then when I want to use it I put it into a watering can and dilute it till it looks like weak tea and pour it from the watering can. Little and often is the usual dosage. Old gardeners use multiple names for such a brew and all have their favourite names. I call it "Black Jack" but there are perhaps as many names as there are gardeners. |
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"John Vanini" wrote in message ... Good grief! Whatever is the matter, Judith? What Helene said was perfectly sound and I took it the way it was intended. John, there are a lot of people on this newsgroup who could do with the following - http://www.globalretreatcentre.org.u...ayretreats.htm Kindest regards Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand |
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