Please advise on how best to remove a large wild cherry tree.
The trunk is about two foot diameter.
Could I do it myself?
How much would a contractor charge?
Would he need to be insured?
(If so, Why? I don't understand this insurance business!)
How could the stump be got rid of?
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Chris

"Chris" ] wrote in message
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| Please advise on how best to remove a large wild cherry tree.
| The trunk is about two foot diameter.
| Could I do it myself?
| How much would a contractor charge?
| Would he need to be insured?
| (If so, Why? I don't understand this insurance business!)
| How could the stump be got rid of?
| --
| Chris

I had 3 trees removed, though not as big as yours (about 12 inch trunks) and
it cost £275. Yes he does need to be insured because if he injured himself
or damaged anything you may end up paying. And they should have all the
proper gear like helmets, kevlar trousers, and all the harnesses and ropes
to climb the tree. Also you need to be careful that you don't live in a
conservation area or the tree has a TPO, in both cases you have to apply for
planning permission even to prune let alone fell a tree. If you live in a
modern house don't be fooled into thinking you wont live in a conservation
area, my house is fairly new and I do.

I suggest you contact the council before you do anything, cut down a tree
with a TPO on and you could face a £20,000 if you get it wrong

Angela wrote:
"Chris" ] wrote in message
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| Please advise on how best to remove a large wild cherry tree.
| The trunk is about two foot diameter.
| Could I do it myself?
| How much would a contractor charge?
| Would he need to be insured?
| (If so, Why? I don't understand this insurance business!)
| How could the stump be got rid of?
| --
| Chris

I had 3 trees removed, though not as big as yours (about 12 inch trunks) and
it cost £275. Yes he does need to be insured because if he injured himself
or damaged anything you may end up paying. And they should have all the
proper gear like helmets, kevlar trousers, and all the harnesses and ropes
to climb the tree. Also you need to be careful that you don't live in a
conservation area or the tree has a TPO, in both cases you have to apply for
planning permission even to prune let alone fell a tree. If you live in a
modern house don't be fooled into thinking you wont live in a conservation
area, my house is fairly new and I do.

I suggest you contact the council before you do anything, cut down a tree
with a TPO on and you could face a £20,000 if you get it wrong


But if you ask they may slap a TPO on it!

Malcolm

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Please advise on how best to remove a large wild cherry tree.
The trunk is about two foot diameter.
Could I do it myself?
How much would a contractor charge?
Would he need to be insured?
(If so, Why? I don't understand this insurance business!)
How could the stump be got rid of?

More information required - location? Can it be felled in one lump
without damaging anyone-else's property? Have you any experience in
tree-felling? (presume not...) Do you know how to drop a tree exactly
where you want it to fall?

And yes, your contractor does need to be insured. You are unlikely to
find any company to offer you cover if you do it yourself, hence the
earlier questions.

Cherry wood is *VERY* dense.

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Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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"Malcolm" wrote in message
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| Angela wrote:
| "Chris" ] wrote in message
| ]...
| | Please advise on how best to remove a large wild cherry tree.
| | The trunk is about two foot diameter.
| | Could I do it myself?
| | How much would a contractor charge?
| | Would he need to be insured?
| | (If so, Why? I don't understand this insurance business!)
| | How could the stump be got rid of?
| | --
| | Chris
|
| I had 3 trees removed, though not as big as yours (about 12 inch trunks)
and
| it cost £275. Yes he does need to be insured because if he injured
himself
| or damaged anything you may end up paying. And they should have all the
| proper gear like helmets, kevlar trousers, and all the harnesses and
ropes
| to climb the tree. Also you need to be careful that you don't live in a
| conservation area or the tree has a TPO, in both cases you have to apply
for
| planning permission even to prune let alone fell a tree. If you live in
a
| modern house don't be fooled into thinking you wont live in a
conservation
| area, my house is fairly new and I do.
|
| I suggest you contact the council before you do anything, cut down a
tree
| with a TPO on and you could face a £20,000 if you get it wrong
|
|
| But if you ask they may slap a TPO on it!
|
| Malcolm

They certainly could, but rest assured if a tree has a TPO on it at least
one of your neighbours will know and will be on the phone to the council the
second a chain saw is started, and you could face a hefty fine. I would
much rather take the risk that a TPO would be slapped on it than face a
£20,000 fine. When they started felling my trees an aggressive neighbour
came out and said that they were protected trees, fortunately I was able to
show him all the paperwork from the council, if I hadn't I am sure he would
have been on the phone in a flash! Anyway a tree surgeon will want to know
because he can also get an £11,000 fine for doing the work!

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from Chris ] contains these words:

Please advise on how best to remove a large wild cherry tree.
The trunk is about two foot diameter.
Could I do it myself?
How much would a contractor charge?
Would he need to be insured?
(If so, Why? I don't understand this insurance business!)
How could the stump be got rid of?

More information required - location? Can it be felled in one lump
without damaging anyone-else's property? Have you any experience in
tree-felling? (presume not...) Do you know how to drop a tree exactly
where you want it to fall?

And yes, your contractor does need to be insured. You are unlikely to
find any company to offer you cover if you do it yourself, hence the
earlier questions.

Cherry wood is *VERY* dense.

to offset costs, if cherrywood a type that could be sold to a wood turner to
offset costs?

rob

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Angela wrote:


They certainly could, but rest assured if a tree has a TPO on it at least
one of your neighbours will know and will be on the phone to the council the
second a chain saw is started, and you could face a hefty fine. I would
much rather take the risk that a TPO would be slapped on it than face a
£20,000 fine. When they started felling my trees an aggressive neighbour
came out and said that they were protected trees, fortunately I was able to
show him all the paperwork from the council, if I hadn't I am sure he would
have been on the phone in a flash! Anyway a tree surgeon will want to know
because he can also get an £11,000 fine for doing the work!

However, if you look at the law, a tree with a TPO can be removed without
further ado if it is likely to endanger life or property. It would be
sensible to get evidence of that fact, and check that it is adequate to
get exemption under the exact wording of the law, in order to tell such
people to get lost with immunity from legal comeback.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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to offset costs, if cherrywood a type that could be sold to a wood
turner to
offset costs?

Definitely - or a furniture maker, or me, or if in East Anglia, North
Heigham Sawmills...

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Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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Go to the council and ask to see the TPO maps.

Under no circumstances tell them who or where you live, and do not
point on the map to your tree.

If its not on the map, there is no TPO. You could even ask for a
photcopy of the area of the map.

I had a customer who wanted a large tree down. As with any Tree men
you always check before you start work on the same day. I had checked,
but as I had problems on another job, the job did not start till the
next day. The council had gone out and immediatly slapped a TPO on it.
After the owner went throu all the procedures, he still lost. The tree
is still standing, and he moved on.

You have to preform a risk assessment before any job, and the best way
of dismantling and removing it safetly.

Another problem is checking whether the contractors is a Registered
Carrier of Waste' Reg Nos EAN/942316 as required under 'The Control of
Pollution Act 1989'

Many are not and its breaking the law, even you would be treated as a
criminal in allowing waste to be transfered. The police in certain
areas are checking 'white vans' and ther contents.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:56:34 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Please advise on how best to remove a large wild cherry tree.
The trunk is about two foot diameter.
Could I do it myself?
How much would a contractor charge?
Would he need to be insured?
(If so, Why? I don't understand this insurance business!)
How could the stump be got rid of?

You not mention how tall these are, or age. But with a cherry at 2 ft
dia trunk, I would say that they must be 50 years, and thus typically
at the end of there life.

What is there location/accessability within your garden re boundaries,
sheds, greenhouse etc etc. Can machinery be bought in close or how far
is it to hardstanding.

If he is in partnership, he must legally have liability insurance
(sole traders do not). He can have but does not legally need
accidental insurance, if he takes on all the resonsibilities of his
actions, ie replacing a greenhouse that now has a treee growing out of
it.

Most tree men will only cut down to ground level, or approx 10 inches.
This being due to that if the chainsaw hits one stone in the dirt, you
will have a knackeered chain. Some might cut lower he uses his oldest
and mankiest chainsaw.

Then if you want the stump out, it would need to ground out with a
stump grinder.

For stump grinding and othe treee photos check out
http://www.gb-online.co.uk/services/services.htm

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Most tree men will only cut down to ground level, or approx 10 inches.
This being due to that if the chainsaw hits one stone in the dirt, you
will have a knackeered chain. Some might cut lower he uses his oldest
and mankiest chainsaw.

Then if you want the stump out, it would need to ground out with a
stump grinder.

Any tree feller worth his/her? salt would take off the top, leaving
enough trunk standing to pull the thing out, dig round the stump and cut
as many roots as possible, then attach vehicle, block and tackle,
differential pulley etc., and drag it out.

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Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk

Post a message with your local wood-turners' group. Someone may well be interested.

Also, contact any furniture restorers/repairers. They are also on the lookout for good usable timbers. We passed on a plum trunk to one who was exceedingly grateful.

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George.com;831779 Wrote:

to offset costs, if cherrywood a type that could be sold to a wood
turner to
offset costs?

Post a message with your local wood-turners' group. Someone may well be
interested.

Also, contact any furniture restorers/repairers. They are also on the
lookout for good usable timbers. We passed on a plum trunk to one who
was exceedingly grateful.

As would I be - plum or cherry especially - I want to restock a New
England Rifle. They were usually stocked with fruitwood, especially
cherry, or 'curly' maple.

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Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk

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from beccabunga contains these
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George.com;831779 Wrote:

to offset costs, if cherrywood a type that could be sold to a wood
turner to
offset costs?

Post a message with your local wood-turners' group. Someone may well be
interested.

Also, contact any furniture restorers/repairers. They are also on the
lookout for good usable timbers. We passed on a plum trunk to one who
was exceedingly grateful.

As would I be - plum or cherry especially - I want to restock a New
England Rifle. They were usually stocked with fruitwood, especially
cherry, or 'curly' maple.

--
Rusty

I was on the local council and we had to severely prune some Holme Oaks. The
local Woodturners turned up in vans and cars to take the logs :-))

Mike

I havent seen any body do that for years now. Probably most gardens do
not have any rear access or anything substantial to anchor to.

Also probably because its to time consuming to dig and cut the roots,
and then try and pull.

I had a long hedge of 20 year old beechs ( 6 inch dia ) to remove to
below ground level. I tried block and tackle cause I thought it would
be easy, mind you I did not cut the roots. I ended up pullling the van
instead.

Ended up chainsawing to ground level. It then only took 2 hrs to stump
grind the 50 stumps down.

There is even a gizmo being sold and can be hired, that basically
lifts the tree out. Chainsaw 2 notches into the tree stump, attach a
chain round the stump and then to a block and tackle mounted on a
tripod. And it works, a bit slow thou, pulls an all.



Any tree feller worth his/her? salt would take off the top, leaving
enough trunk standing to pull the thing out, dig round the stump and cut
as many roots as possible, then attach vehicle, block and tackle,
differential pulley etc., and drag it out.