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Metal theft. The biters bit
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Let me sum it up. You don't care if someone lives or dies because they have done something you disapprove of. No, but if they get killed committing criminal acts where it is obvious there is a sever danger off death, like nicking lead of church rooves, or nicking live cables, I am not going to lose any sleep over it OK? |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
On 23/01/2012 16:17, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes In article , ŽiŠardo wrote: They were putting other people's lives at risk for personal gain, with a total contempt for anyone else's needs, requirements, safety or well-being. How do you know they were putting lives at risk? They certainly didn't care about anyone other than themselves - but what thief does? What's far more worrying is the self righteous hang them and flog them brigade. As if they never ever broke the law. Just remember - speeding puts other's life at risk. If you want dramatics. No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any of these services could possible put lives at risk. You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc. The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people. |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
In message , Andrew Gabriel
writes In article , McKevvy writes: On Jan 20, 6:51*pm, harry wrote: Not for the faint hearted this one!http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0 Yup. This was posted in uk.railway a few days ago. They don't get my sympathy. I know it's difficult to sympathise with someone cut down by their own criminal actions, but it's not a crime for which anyone is going to suggest a death sentence is appropriate. So in the sense that they didn't get a chance to serve their sentence and didn't get a chance to go on to become reformed upright citizens, I do feel sorry for them. Of course, I have no way of knowing if they would have taken that chance even if it had been made available to them, or if they would have continued to be a blight on society, or if they've been a blight on society for some time before this. Shit happens -- hugh |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
In message , 'Mike'
writes "David in Normandy" wrote in message . fr... On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote: On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote: Not for the faint hearted this one! http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0 Gotta sting. Bet it came as a shock. -- David in Normandy. To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the subject line, or it will be automatically deleted by a filter and not reach my inbox. An electrifying experience? Mike Enough to make your hair stand on end :-( -- hugh |
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"joe" wrote in message ... Janet wrote: In article 9e3a51ee-83ea-4b24-b742-0ca865077ac3 @b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says... Once you get a certain number of scum loose in any society, it will fail. Well, we don't all take the same view on who are the scum tearing society apart. Janet Nicely put. lol -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
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Steve O wrote: No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any of these services could possible put lives at risk. You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc. The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people. Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is essential, backup should be provided. -- *If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:25:14 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Steve O wrote: No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any of these services could possible put lives at risk. You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc. The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people. Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is essential, backup should be provided. Hospitals always (?) have standby alternators, but what about, for example, renal dialysis machines used in private homes? Or all these type of things battery powered nowadays? Indeed, are such things used at all now? :-) -- Frank Erskine |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
"Dave Plowman (News)" :
In article , Steve O wrote: No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any of these services could possible put lives at risk. You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc. The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people. Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is essential, backup should be provided. There was a case recently where it was the operating theatre's backup power supply cable that got nicked. Fortunately the loss was quickly discovered but operations still had to be cancelled. -- Mike Barnes |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
On Jan 23, 11:25*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , * *Steve O wrote: *No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any of these services could possible put lives at risk. You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc. The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people. Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is essential, backup should be provided. If there is a power cut down to some unexpected fault, that's one thing. Deliberately causing one is another matter entirely. |
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On Jan 23, 2:30*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , * *Huge wrote: Nowadays, owners of dangerous equipment such as high voltage overhead lines or underground cables, have to protect the offenders agianst their own stupidity. Not in my world. Stupidity is a capital offence. Then the world would be empty, except for the hangman. So who would hang him? Perhaps he's stupid enough to be standing on the trapdoor when he pulls the lever, falls through, and breaks his neck. -- Halmyre |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
larkim wrote:
On Jan 22, 6:57 pm, The Grey Man wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:58:17 +0000 (UTC), (Andrew Gabriel) wrote: I know it's difficult to sympathise with someone cut down by their own criminal actions, but it's not a crime for which anyone is going to suggest a death sentence is appropriate. So in the sense that they didn't get a chance to serve their sentence and didn't get a chance to go on to become reformed upright citizens, I do feel sorry for them. Are you for real? He's humane. How can you triumph in the death of these people? Do you know their backstories? Do you know if they'd done this before? Do you know if they were doing it because someone was threatening their children / wife / family? No, you don't. It sickens me when people gloat about the death of anyone. These men had the same human value as you and I. Even if there is no sob story behind their lives, they were just in it to make some quick money, and had no family that cared about them there is no reason to gloat. "No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee." John Donne. Matt Absolutely right! this is the saddest thread I've ever read on Usenet. I'm killing it now. Peter -- It is necessary for the good man to do nothing for evil to triumph. Attributed to Edmund Burke 1729 - 1797 |
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In article ,
Frank Erskine wrote: Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is essential, backup should be provided. Hospitals always (?) have standby alternators, but what about, for example, renal dialysis machines used in private homes? Or all these type of things battery powered nowadays? Indeed, are such things used at all now? :-) If home dialyse - or anything else like that - is such that it must be carried out at a specific time, it would be sensible to have a standby source of electricity. Despite all the bile spouted here, you're more likely to have an 'ordinary' power cut than one caused by cable theft. -- *Don't worry; it only seems kinky the first time.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
In article
, harry wrote: If there is a power cut down to some unexpected fault, that's one thing. What if it's caused by poor maintence or ineptitude? Would you hang the person responsible too? Deliberately causing one is another matter entirely. Then let the law deal with it. -- *I want it all and I want it delivered Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
On Jan 23, 11:25*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , * *Steve O wrote: *No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any of these services could possible put lives at risk. You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc. The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people. Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is essential, backup should be provided. But when those power cuts do happen it causes delays to transport especially trains you can;'t always have a backup immidiatly to hand. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-16602333 -- *If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried * * * Dave Plowman * * * * * * * * London SW * * * * * * * * * To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Metal theft. The biters bit
On 24/01/2012 10:20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , wrote: If there is a power cut down to some unexpected fault, that's one thing. What if it's caused by poor maintence or ineptitude? Would you hang the person responsible too? Deliberately causing one is another matter entirely. Then let the law deal with it. Or the "Hand of God", as in this instance. -- Moving things in still pictures |
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