Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Let me sum it up. You don't care if someone lives or dies because they
have done something you disapprove of.


No, but if they get killed committing criminal acts where it is obvious
there is a sever danger off death, like nicking lead of church rooves,
or nicking live cables, I am not going to lose any sleep over it OK?

On 23/01/2012 16:17, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
®i©ardo wrote:
They were putting other people's lives at risk for personal gain, with a
total contempt for anyone else's needs, requirements, safety or
well-being.

How do you know they were putting lives at risk? They certainly didn't
care about anyone other than themselves - but what thief does?
What's far more worrying is the self righteous hang them and flog them
brigade. As if they never ever broke the law.

Just remember - speeding puts other's life at risk. If you want
dramatics.

No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no
train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any
of these services could possible put lives at risk.

You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc.
The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people.

In message , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
McKevvy writes:
On Jan 20, 6:51*pm, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this
one!http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0
Yup. This was posted in uk.railway a few days ago.
They don't get my sympathy.

I know it's difficult to sympathise with someone cut down by their
own criminal actions, but it's not a crime for which anyone is going
to suggest a death sentence is appropriate. So in the sense that
they didn't get a chance to serve their sentence and didn't get a
chance to go on to become reformed upright citizens, I do feel
sorry for them. Of course, I have no way of knowing if they would
have taken that chance even if it had been made available to them,
or if they would have continued to be a blight on society, or if
they've been a blight on society for some time before this.

Shit happens
--
hugh

In message , 'Mike'
writes


"David in Normandy" wrote in message
. fr...
On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.



Bet it came as a shock.

-- David in Normandy.
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An electrifying experience?

Mike


Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(
--
hugh

"joe" wrote in message
...
Janet wrote:

In article 9e3a51ee-83ea-4b24-b742-0ca865077ac3
@b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, says...

Once you get a certain number of scum loose in any society, it will
fail.

Well, we don't all take the same view on who are the scum tearing
society apart.

Janet

Nicely put.

lol


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In article ,
Steve O wrote:
No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no
train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any
of these services could possible put lives at risk.

You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc.
The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people.

Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is
essential, backup should be provided.

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*If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried *

Dave Plowman London SW
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:25:14 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Steve O wrote:
No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no
train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any
of these services could possible put lives at risk.

You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc.
The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people.

Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is
essential, backup should be provided.

Hospitals always (?) have standby alternators, but what about, for
example, renal dialysis machines used in private homes? Or all these
type of things battery powered nowadays? Indeed, are such things used
at all now? :-)

--
Frank Erskine

"Dave Plowman (News)" :
In article ,
Steve O wrote:
No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no
train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any
of these services could possible put lives at risk.

You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc.
The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people.

Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is
essential, backup should be provided.

There was a case recently where it was the operating theatre's backup
power supply cable that got nicked. Fortunately the loss was quickly
discovered but operations still had to be cancelled.

--
Mike Barnes

On Jan 23, 11:25*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
In article ,
* *Steve O wrote:

*No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no
train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any
of these services could possible put lives at risk.
You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc.
The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people.

Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is
essential, backup should be provided.


If there is a power cut down to some unexpected fault, that's one
thing.
Deliberately causing one is another matter entirely.

On Jan 23, 2:30*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
In article ,
* *Huge wrote:

Nowadays, owners of dangerous equipment such as high voltage overhead
lines or underground cables, have to protect the offenders agianst
their own stupidity.
Not in my world. Stupidity is a capital offence.

Then the world would be empty, except for the hangman. So who would hang
him?


Perhaps he's stupid enough to be standing on the trapdoor when he
pulls the lever, falls through, and breaks his neck.

--
Halmyre

larkim wrote:

On Jan 22, 6:57 pm, The Grey Man wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:58:17 +0000 (UTC),

(Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
I know it's difficult to sympathise with someone cut down by their
own criminal actions, but it's not a crime for which anyone is going
to suggest a death sentence is appropriate. So in the sense that
they didn't get a chance to serve their sentence and didn't get a
chance to go on to become reformed upright citizens, I do feel
sorry for them.

Are you for real?

He's humane. How can you triumph in the death of these people? Do
you know their backstories? Do you know if they'd done this before?
Do you know if they were doing it because someone was threatening
their children / wife / family? No, you don't. It sickens me when
people gloat about the death of anyone. These men had the same human
value as you and I. Even if there is no sob story behind their lives,
they were just in it to make some quick money, and had no family that
cared about them there is no reason to gloat.

"No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the
Continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a
manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes
me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know
for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee." John Donne.

Matt
Absolutely right! this is the saddest thread I've ever read on Usenet.
I'm killing it now.
Peter

--
It is necessary for the good man to do nothing for evil to triumph.

Attributed to Edmund Burke 1729 - 1797

In article ,
Frank Erskine wrote:
Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power
is essential, backup should be provided.

Hospitals always (?) have standby alternators, but what about, for
example, renal dialysis machines used in private homes? Or all these
type of things battery powered nowadays? Indeed, are such things used
at all now? :-)

If home dialyse - or anything else like that - is such that it must be
carried out at a specific time, it would be sensible to have a standby
source of electricity.

Despite all the bile spouted here, you're more likely to have an
'ordinary' power cut than one caused by cable theft.

--
*Don't worry; it only seems kinky the first time.*

Dave Plowman London SW
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In article
,
harry wrote:
If there is a power cut down to some unexpected fault, that's one
thing.

What if it's caused by poor maintence or ineptitude? Would you hang the
person responsible too?

Deliberately causing one is another matter entirely.

Then let the law deal with it.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On Jan 23, 11:25*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
In article ,
* *Steve O wrote:

*No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no
train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any
of these services could possible put lives at risk.
You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc.
The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people.

Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is
essential, backup should be provided.

But when those power cuts do happen it causes delays to transport
especially trains
you can;'t always have a backup immidiatly to hand.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-16602333


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* * Dave Plowman * * * * * * * * London SW
* * * * * * * * * To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 24/01/2012 10:20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
If there is a power cut down to some unexpected fault, that's one
thing.

What if it's caused by poor maintence or ineptitude? Would you hang the
person responsible too?

Deliberately causing one is another matter entirely.

Then let the law deal with it.


Or the "Hand of God", as in this instance.

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