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"Steve Walker" wrote in message
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On 24/01/2012 11:50, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:40, Bod wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:36, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:27, Bod wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:26, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
writes
"David in Normandy" wrote in
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On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.

Bet it came as a shock.

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An electrifying experience?

Mike

Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(

Re-VOLT-ing!

Ah! I knew you couldn't resist that.

Well, I was ever a live wire.

I bet you've lots of contacts?

So many that I've had to pull the plug on some of them.


Ah, coming back down to Earth now.

SteveW


Mmmmmmmmm, couple of bright sparks here ;-(

Mike


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On 24/01/2012 20:18, The Grey Man wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:42:39 +0000, Bill
wrote:

All burglaries and assaults should result in an automatic custodial
sentence.

Bill


Of course you're right.

Alas, HMG keeps bellyaching on about how our prisons are full and
overcrowded.

It doesn't seem to occur to them to build some more.

Or privatise the whole shooting match.

It's almost as if they want criminals out on the streets............


They fequently say that prison doesn't work and doesn't deter
re-offending. I've always wondered that even if prison doesn't work for
many of those incarcerated, do long sentences deter those that have
never been in trouble from getting into a life of crime in the first place?

SteveW
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
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En el artículo
roups.com, harry escribió:

Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0


Pictures no longer showing, can anyone point me at another source
please?

The uk railway ones that I posted a while back....

http://www.henden.co.uk/image001.jpg
http://www.henden.co.uk/image002.jpg
http://www.henden.co.uk/image003.jpg
http://www.henden.co.uk/image004.jpg
http://www.henden.co.uk/image005.jpg


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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:35:22 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

Nor mine, if was greed, but a whole different ballgame if they needed
the money to eat.


So not having money to eat is an excuse for theft? Not in my book and
certainly not in the UK where to fall completely through the benefits
net takes some doing.

It's (I think) in the USA.




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On 24/01/2012 20:38, Steve Walker wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:50, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:40, Bod wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:36, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:27, Bod wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:26, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
writes
"David in Normandy" wrote in
message
r...
On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.

Bet it came as a shock.

-- David in Normandy.
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An electrifying experience?

Mike

Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(

Re-VOLT-ing!

Ah! I knew you couldn't resist that.

Well, I was ever a live wire.

I bet you've lots of contacts?

So many that I've had to pull the plug on some of them.


Ah, coming back down to Earth now.

SteveW


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The Grey Man wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:42:39 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

All burglaries and assaults should result in an automatic custodial
sentence.

Bill


Of course you're right.

Alas, HMG keeps bellyaching on about how our prisons are full and
overcrowded.

Mostly with junkies and potheads who would be better off on NHS dope.

It doesn't seem to occur to them to build some more.

Or privatise the whole shooting match.

It's almost as if they want criminals out on the streets............

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
You also should consider the difference between setting out to kill
someone and the possible result of a simple theft.


Thank you Mr Spart. But the vast majority of people, those who have
decent common-sense values, will have no truck with your apologist
drivel.


Love the way you speak for others, Bill. Just a way of trying to justify
opinions you're actually ashamed of, deep down. Look it up.

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En el artículo , Ian
escribió:


The uk railway ones that I posted a while back....


Many thanks.

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In article , says...

They are like rats amongst us, with the morality of rats, sub-human,


where have we heard that before..


Janet

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On Jan 24, 10:20*am, "Dave Plowman (News)"
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In article
,
* *harry wrote:

If there is a power cut down to some unexpected fault, that's one
thing.


What if it's caused by poor maintence or ineptitude? Would you hang the
person responsible too?


Possibly yes. Another crime. Negligence.
But some faults can't be predicted.


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On Jan 24, 4:15*pm, (Cynic) wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:43:51 +0000, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=AEi=A9ardo?=

wrote:
Not at all. But, if that "simple theft" does result in the death of an
innocent party, are you suggesting that we just accept it because that
wasn't the original intention? I would rather see you suggest that
criminals, major or minor, accept the consequences of their own actions,
especially if they impinge upon the lives of innocent people.
If, however, they manage to kill themselves in the course of their
illegal act it may serve as a warning to others.
Please remember that they have total freedom of choice in these matters
- their victims do not.


Do you feel the same way about a criminal who drives his car at 45 MPH
in a 40 MPH limit? *It could result in death. *Even parking in a
no-parking area could result in death. *Do you therefore similarly
wish death on drivers who break the speed limit, and people with
parking infringements?

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If they kill someone then yes.
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On Jan 24, 5:00*pm, "Bill Grey" wrote:
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:25:14 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
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In article ,
* Steve O wrote:
*No power, no phone service, no signalling on roads and railways, no
train services (etc). No, I simply can't see how the disruption of any
of these services could possible put lives at risk.


You forgot about hospital equipment, ventilators in the home, etc.
The OP obviously doesn't realize that power cuts can kill people.


Power cuts can and do happen without cables being nicked. If that power is
essential, backup should be provided.


Hospitals always (?) have standby alternators, but what about, for
example, renal dialysis machines used in private homes?


For programmed shut-downs, mobile generators are usually provided . Kidney
machines are highlighted on operational control diagrams.

Bill



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Why do you babble about something yo know nothing about?

General hospitals have their distribution systems divided into
essential and non-essential supplies. There is a (sometimes very
large) diesel generator starts up on power failure.
However this takes about sixty seconds.
Power failure is unusual because hospitals are commonly on the high
voltage ring main, it would take multiple faults to cause power
failure.
Three or four days worth of fuel is normally kept.
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On Jan 24, 7:42*pm, Bill Wright wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
You also should consider the difference between setting out to kill
someone and the possible result of a simple theft.


Thank you Mr Spart. But the vast majority of people, those who have
decent common-sense values, will have no truck with your apologist *drivel.
These nasty little criminals are totally selfish. They don't care what
effect their actions have on others. They are not a part of society
because they have opted out, so why should society bend over backwards
to accommodate them?
They break into the homes of good hard-working people, make a phenomenal
mess, shit on the carpet, and smash the place up. They buy and sell
drugs, thus ruining millions of lives. They steal a tenner's worth of
copper despite the fact that the cost per affected household to repair
the damage is often hundreds of pounds.
They are like rats amongst us, with the morality of rats, sub-human,
leaving their filthy trail of oudure everywhere.
The cost to the rest of us in terms of heartbreak when homes are
burgled, inconvenience, and money spent of jails and the police is
astronomic.
So you can't expect decent people to show them much consideration in
return. The judicial system has failed us thanks to being watered down
by lefties over the years, so decent people can only think that the more
of the little scumbags that kill themselves the better off the rest of
us will be.
The simple answer to the ballooning costs of the prisons would be to
take the tellys out of the cells, turn the heating down to 18deg, and
link food provided to work done. That way the prison population would
soon reduce.
All burglaries and assaults should result in an automatic custodial
sentence.

Bill


Well said Bill!
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On Jan 24, 9:01*pm, Steve Walker -
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On 24/01/2012 20:18, The Grey Man wrote:





On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:42:39 +0000, Bill
wrote:


All burglaries and assaults should result in an automatic custodial
sentence.


Bill


Of course you're right.


Alas, HMG keeps bellyaching on about how our prisons are full and
overcrowded.


It doesn't seem to occur to them to build some more.


Or privatise the whole shooting match.


It's almost as if they want criminals out on the streets............


They fequently say that prison doesn't work and doesn't deter
re-offending. I've always wondered that even if prison doesn't work for
many of those incarcerated, do long sentences deter those that have
never been in trouble from getting into a life of crime in the first place?

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I could make prison work.
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On 25/01/2012 07:15, harry wrote:
On Jan 24, 10:20 am, "Dave Plowman
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In article
,
wrote:

If there is a power cut down to some unexpected fault, that's one
thing.


What if it's caused by poor maintence or ineptitude? Would you hang the
person responsible too?


Possibly yes. Another crime. Negligence.
But some faults can't be predicted.


But living in a "blame" culture heads would be sure to roll somewhere
regardless of culpability - or common sense.

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