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Default Metal theft. The biters bit

On 23/01/2012 17:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In articlebcCdnUUjJY_RD4DSnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews. com,
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On 23/01/2012 16:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
They were putting other people's lives at risk for personal gain,
with a total contempt for anyone else's needs, requirements, safety
or well-being.

How do you know they were putting lives at risk? They certainly didn't
care about anyone other than themselves - but what thief does?
What's far more worrying is the self righteous hang them and flog them
brigade. As if they never ever broke the law.


How do you KNOW otherwise? Suppose they had got away with it, leaving a
live wire exposed to the elements and passers by...


You're supposing - again.


But I'm not alone in doing so, unless you are claiming it as an
exclusive right and anyone else is an imposter?

Just remember - speeding puts other's life at risk. If you want
dramatics.


...or even red herrings.


Please show here I have suggested "hanging and flogging". Perhaps I was
merely marvelling at Darwinism in action. They would seem to have been
the architects of their own destiny and I, for one, see no reason to
shed a tear for their passing.


Of course not. Didn't think you were human.


Well, given your twisted outlook on life that's hardly surprising. Let
us praise and nurture the wrong-doers, because it would be unjust to to
do otherwise, even if everyone else suffers as a result of their actions.

Hang on, got it! You go around nicking metal and power cables and this
gives you a "moral" right to defend such actions. And, when it all goes
tits up, it's society's fault.

Let me sum it up. You don't care if someone lives or dies because they
have done something you disapprove of.


I really do not care if someone is too stupid to understand the
consequences of his or her own ILLEGAL actions. I care even less if
their ILLEGAL actions compromise the safety and well-being of law
abiding people.

But expect that same person to be worried about others?


Well, it should be patently obvious even to a blinkered bigot like you
that they don't give a F*CK about anyone but themselves and consequently
reap the rewards of their own actions.


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On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
writes


"David in Normandy" wrote in message
r...
On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.



Bet it came as a shock.

-- David in Normandy.
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An electrifying experience?

Mike


Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(


Re-VOLT-ing!

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On 24/01/2012 11:26, ®i©ardo wrote:
On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
writes


"David in Normandy" wrote in message
r...
On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.



Bet it came as a shock.

-- David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.


An electrifying experience?

Mike


Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(


Re-VOLT-ing!


Ah! I knew you couldn't resist that.

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On 24/01/2012 11:27, Bod wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:26, ®i©ardo wrote:
On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
writes


"David in Normandy" wrote in message
r...
On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.



Bet it came as a shock.

-- David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.


An electrifying experience?

Mike


Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(


Re-VOLT-ing!


Ah! I knew you couldn't resist that.


Well, I was ever a live wire.

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On 24/01/2012 11:36, ®i©ardo wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:27, Bod wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:26, ®i©ardo wrote:
On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
writes


"David in Normandy" wrote in message
r...
On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.



Bet it came as a shock.

-- David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.


An electrifying experience?

Mike


Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(

Re-VOLT-ing!


Ah! I knew you couldn't resist that.


Well, I was ever a live wire.



I bet you've lots of contacts?

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On 24/01/2012 11:40, Bod wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:36, ®i©ardo wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:27, Bod wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:26, ®i©ardo wrote:
On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
writes


"David in Normandy" wrote in message
r...
On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.



Bet it came as a shock.

-- David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.


An electrifying experience?

Mike


Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(

Re-VOLT-ing!


Ah! I knew you couldn't resist that.


Well, I was ever a live wire.



I bet you've lots of contacts?


So many that I've had to pull the plug on some of them.

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"Bod" wrote in message
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On 24/01/2012 11:36, ®i©ardo wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:27, Bod wrote:
On 24/01/2012 11:26, ®i©ardo wrote:
On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
writes


"David in Normandy" wrote in message
r...
On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.



Bet it came as a shock.

-- David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.


An electrifying experience?

Mike


Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(

Re-VOLT-ing!


Ah! I knew you couldn't resist that.


Well, I was ever a live wire.



I bet you've lots of contacts?

Watt ever next??? (I'm off ohm... anyone seen Joules?...)

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"®i©ardo" wrote in message
...
On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
writes


"David in Normandy" wrote in message
r...
On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0

Gotta sting.



Bet it came as a shock.

-- David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.


An electrifying experience?

Mike


Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(


Re-VOLT-ing!

I bet his brain hertz........

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In article ,
®i©ardo wrote:
Of course not. Didn't think you were human.


Well, given your twisted outlook on life that's hardly surprising. Let
us praise and nurture the wrong-doers, because it would be unjust to to
do otherwise, even if everyone else suffers as a result of their actions.


If it's a twisted outlook on life hoping a petty thief doesn't get killed
for whatever reason I'm happy to be 'twisted'.

Those who want the ultimate penalty for such things rarely stop there,
given the chance. But then you're obviously too thick to work this out.

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Default Metal theft. The biters bit

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
®i©ardo wrote:
Of course not. Didn't think you were human.


Well, given your twisted outlook on life that's hardly surprising. Let
us praise and nurture the wrong-doers, because it would be unjust to to
do otherwise, even if everyone else suffers as a result of their actions.


If it's a twisted outlook on life hoping a petty thief doesn't get killed
for whatever reason I'm happy to be 'twisted'.


Well you are supposed to hope for an epiphany and for him to become a
saintlike member of society selflessly serving the needs of others until
a perfect humanist socialist society ends all poverty and unhappiness.

Those who want the ultimate penalty for such things rarely stop there,
given the chance. But then you're obviously too thick to work this out.


Sadly if he doesn't have that epiphany, the greatest good for the
greatest number is often achieved by ensuring he doesn't get to do
anything ever again.

In essence the dichotomy is between the idealised notions of human kind
espoused by bourgeois thinkers, and the reality on the ground of the
human being as he is found to be.

In this case burnt to a crisp through ignorance, venality and incompetence.


The hunter gather lifestyle has always had its won natural selection if
something poisonous was gathered or something lethal was hunted.

QED


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On Jan 24, 12:52*pm, "Ian" wrote:
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On 23/01/2012 20:48, hugh wrote:
In message , 'Mike'
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"David in Normandy" wrote in message
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On 20/01/2012 23:04, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:51, harry wrote:
Not for the faint hearted this one!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=8130.0


Gotta sting.


Bet it came as a shock.


-- David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.


An electrifying experience?


Mike


Enough to make your hair stand on end :-(


Re-VOLT-ing!


I bet his brain hertz........

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Actually for that short time he was the brightest in his class ;-)
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
®i©ardo wrote:
Of course not. Didn't think you were human.


Well, given your twisted outlook on life that's hardly surprising. Let
us praise and nurture the wrong-doers, because it would be unjust to to
do otherwise, even if everyone else suffers as a result of their actions.


If it's a twisted outlook on life hoping a petty thief doesn't get killed
for whatever reason I'm happy to be 'twisted'.

I've been staying out of this until now, but I agree with that.

The penalty suffered here (As in the original pictures of cooked people)
wasn't for the attempted theft, it was for ignoring, whether knowingly
or not, the dangers involved in tampering with the laws of nature.
Unfortunately for some, the laws of nature show no mercy, and are not
subject to appeal. I can't check in this case now, as the pictures have
been "moved or deleted", but all the access points to high voltage
installations I've seen have warnings on them stating something like
"High voltage electricity kills". Here, at least, there are also fences
to keep out those who can't read, but not those who can't take a hint.
Even the razor wire mentioned elsewhere won't keep a determined
wrong-doer safe.

If they'd had the sense to try it with a wire that wasn't lethally live,
or taken the right precautions, they'd be alive today, and possibly, if
they'd been caught, paying whatever penalty the system deemed
appropriate. Like the many people stealing phone wiring in this country.


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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Despite all the bile spouted here, you're more likely to have an
'ordinary' power cut than one caused by cable theft.

It's more likely that you'll be killed in an accident than murdered, but
that doesn't reduce the seriousness of murder.

Bill
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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Despite all the bile spouted here, you're more likely to have an
'ordinary' power cut than one caused by cable theft.


while that might be true - in the 40+ years wwee've lived here our phone
service has never failed due to a fault. (OK, in the Great Storm the
overhead line failed since a tree branch fell onto it. Yet, 3 times last
year we lost service because of cable theft.

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On 24/01/2012 12:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article366dnc6WufS2CIPSnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews. com,
wrote:
Of course not. Didn't think you were human.


Well, given your twisted outlook on life that's hardly surprising. Let
us praise and nurture the wrong-doers, because it would be unjust to to
do otherwise, even if everyone else suffers as a result of their actions.


If it's a twisted outlook on life hoping a petty thief doesn't get killed
for whatever reason I'm happy to be 'twisted'.

Those who want the ultimate penalty for such things rarely stop there,
given the chance. But then you're obviously too thick to work this out.


Your attitude seems to be: "F*ck the thousands of innocent people who
potentially suffer because of attacks of wanton vandalism and theft such
as these, it is far better that they do so than the guilty be punished
in any way - even if it be by their own stupidity".

How dare you have such contempt for society - a contempt at least as
great as those who commit such acts. The potential outcome is no
different to planting bombs amongst innocent civilians by the IRA.

I have nowhere suggested an "ultimate penalty" for them, but merely
pointed out that they have been the architects of their own destiny with
their inability to use what little they had by way of brains, doubtless
overridden by sheer greed. As such I cannot bring myself to grieve over
their departure from this mortal coil.

Spare me the humbug, please. if you wish to see them as martyrs at the
hands of society, then, sad to relate, that is your problem and yours alone.

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