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Cloff please!

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But why would you need to whipe anything?

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Oh, come off it! Peafowl, please! And perhaps a donkey ....

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Cloff please!

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er ... OH!

But why would you need to whipe anything?

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Cloff please!

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er ... OH!

But why would you need to whipe anything?

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"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
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I'm not replying to anyone in particular hence the lack of
attributions.

Surely, once upon a time, most land was agricultural. Over the years the
farmers have had their land reduced and this land has been built on. If
the builders didn't allow enough space for farmers to access what
remained of their land with their large agricultural machines, it's no
good taking it out on the farmers - lobby the local planning
departments!!!!
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Interesting attitude, and i quite agree, the farmers are certainly, in
general having a hard enough time of it anyway at the moment.

I see in this case that Mich has mentioned that some incoming millionaire
type has already threatened the farmer with legal action, it is this kind of
stupidity and intolerance of the work the farmers are supposed to be doing
that is leading to them becoming more and more beligerant. What choice do
they have, if he accidently scratches a millionaires wall he'll be sued for
rebuilding the whole house, and that'll be another bankrupt farmer and more
land not being cultivated.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think all farmers are saint, but I think most of
them need the patience of saints these days. The papers are full of stories
of people moving to the countryside, for the views and the wildlife and la
la la, and then suing the farmer for waking them up when trying to milk his
cows, or making odd smells when cleaning out the pigs, etc etc.

In this case though, I would like to think that approaching this particular
farmer with a sympathetic ear, he is after all the one facing legal action
from the idiot across the lane, would probably elicit a more reasonable
response. Though this is rarely possible when the situation has been allowed
to get totally out of hand already. Maybe he's just taking the aasy option
of swinging his trailer(s) round a corner rather than spending the extra few
minutes to make the drive carefully, but then that's pretty much the way
almost everyone drives these days, it's also how most people live, do what's
easy rather than what's right.

Ah well just my opinion
Duncan

In article , Druss
writes
The papers are full of stories
of people moving to the countryside, for the views and the wildlife and la
la la, and then suing the farmer for waking them up when trying to milk his
cows, or making odd smells when cleaning out the pigs, etc etc.

They are?

Which papers do you read?
--
Kay Easton

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http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

"Druss" wrote in message
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"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
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I'm not replying to anyone in particular hence the lack of
attributions.

Surely, once upon a time, most land was agricultural. Over the years the
farmers have had their land reduced and this land has been built on. If
the builders didn't allow enough space for farmers to access what
remained of their land with their large agricultural machines, it's no
good taking it out on the farmers - lobby the local planning
departments!!!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com


Interesting attitude, and i quite agree, the farmers are certainly, in
general having a hard enough time of it anyway at the moment.

I see in this case that Mich has mentioned that some incoming millionaire
type has already threatened the farmer with legal action, it is this kind
of
stupidity and intolerance of the work the farmers are supposed to be doing
that is leading to them becoming more and more beligerant. What choice do
they have, if he accidently scratches a millionaires wall he'll be sued
for
rebuilding the whole house, and that'll be another bankrupt farmer and
more
land not being cultivated.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think all farmers are saint, but I think most
of
them need the patience of saints these days. The papers are full of
stories
of people moving to the countryside, for the views and the wildlife and la
la la, and then suing the farmer for waking them up when trying to milk
his
cows, or making odd smells when cleaning out the pigs, etc etc.

In this case though, I would like to think that approaching this
particular
farmer with a sympathetic ear, he is after all the one facing legal action
from the idiot across the lane, would probably elicit a more reasonable
response. Though this is rarely possible when the situation has been
allowed
to get totally out of hand already. Maybe he's just taking the aasy option
of swinging his trailer(s) round a corner rather than spending the extra
few
minutes to make the drive carefully, but then that's pretty much the way
almost everyone drives these days, it's also how most people live, do
what's
easy rather than what's right.

My understanding of the matter is that the farmer did not even show enough
manners to apologise. In that case, why should anyone express any sympathy
for him.

[Franz Heymann]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:11:19 +0100, "Druss"
wrote:

"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
...
I'm not replying to anyone in particular hence the lack of
attributions.

Surely, once upon a time, most land was agricultural. Over the years the
farmers have had their land reduced and this land has been built on. If
the builders didn't allow enough space for farmers to access what
remained of their land with their large agricultural machines, it's no
good taking it out on the farmers - lobby the local planning
departments!!!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com


Interesting attitude, and i quite agree, the farmers are certainly, in
general having a hard enough time of it anyway at the moment.

A bank manager of a rural bank, where I made the same comment said
"Don't you believe it"
Some are, but not all are having a bad time.

--
Martin

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:37:05 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , Druss
writes
The papers are full of stories
of people moving to the countryside, for the views and the wildlife and la
la la, and then suing the farmer for waking them up when trying to milk his
cows, or making odd smells when cleaning out the pigs, etc etc.

They are?

Which papers do you read?

Which papers don't you read?

I have read such reports and I only read Guardian, Independent and DT
online versions.

--
Martin

"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message

Cloff please!

Cloff?

To whipe the keybrod and minotaur.

LOL

In article , martin
writes
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:37:05 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , Druss
writes
The papers are full of stories
of people moving to the countryside, for the views and the wildlife and la
la la, and then suing the farmer for waking them up when trying to milk his
cows, or making odd smells when cleaning out the pigs, etc etc.

They are?

Which papers do you read?

Which papers don't you read?

I have read such reports and I only read Guardian, Independent and DT
online versions.


I don't think you can really claim the papers are 'full' of such
reports. The occasional one perhaps, if you're looking hard.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , Druss
writes

I see in this case that Mich has mentioned that some incoming millionaire
type has already threatened the farmer with legal action, it is this kind of
stupidity and intolerance of the work the farmers are supposed to be doing
**************************************

Aye . . . producing f o o d.
In my opinion there ain't no more important a job!!

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Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
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In article , martin
writes

A bank manager of a rural bank, where I made the same comment said
"Don't you believe it"
Some are, but not all are having a bad time.

I live sandwiched between 3 farms.
I have noted the long hours the farmers work.
I have noted the lousy, and often dangerous, conditions they work in.
I have seen the care they take of their animals.
They deserve to have as good a time of it as anyone else and certainly,
in my opinion, a much better time than those blinking 'city' bods !!!
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but if you need to email me for any other reason,
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