"martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:37:05 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , Druss
writes
The papers are full of stories
of people moving to the countryside, for the views and the wildlife and
la
la la, and then suing the farmer for waking them up when trying to milk
his
cows, or making odd smells when cleaning out the pigs, etc etc.

They are?

Which papers do you read?

Which papers don't you read?

I have read such reports and I only read Guardian, Independent and DT
online versions.

--
Martin

It is very ver true sadly ........townies are moving into villages and
trying to turn them into towns
they plant bloomin Leylandii everywhere ,stick in a swimming pool and then
shout and complain because someone with a large garden dares to finally burn
up in the autumn the bits of trees etc that they cant shred for the compost

Mich wrote:
"Mich" wrote in message
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"Paul" wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:52:34 +0100, "Mich"
wrote:


After years of being a doormat. I too am fed up of irritating and

selfish

neighbours too.
In fact I am so p***ed off I have decided , that if you cannot beat

'um

,

you should join 'um!

So what can I do to be the most irritating a** hole imaginable ( legal
suggestions only please).

I am serious here.

TIA


what has the neighbour done to annoy you?

My neighbour is a farmer. Do you want the catalogue?
Main thing is he constantly uses my drive to turn the corner into the lane
with his big blue tractor.
I appreciate he has to use the lane ( as do I) but my drive is not the

lane.

so in addition to constantly using my drive as his turning point

a) churning up my drive with heavy machinery and making holes in it

b) churning up my drive by refusing to give me one hour to complete
necessary repair works and allow them to dry.

c) deliberately destroying a 15 year old mature Hebe bush on the corner

of

my drive with his big blue tractor and triple low loader and some extra
attachment - all of which he was trying to bring down a lane barely big
enough for it ( I watched him as he reversed and drove forward three times
over it last night!) I couldn't catch him to stop him!

d) spraying his crops with SWW treated human sewerage and creating a

big

stink over the whole valley

e) building bonfires about 30ft high with no regard to road users or
neighbours

f) spraying his crops with hormones which contaminated my tomatoes and
caused them to curl and look like they had tobacco virus ( serious round
here since the whole area was devastated by Tobacco virus in the 1970's)
Destroyed my whole crop!

g) generally being arrogant and unpleasant and acting as if he owns the
world when I tried to get a reasonable agreement over the repair of my
drive.

h) continuing to have no regard for property which is not his.

Do you want more?

So how do I be the ultimate a** hole to the finest a**hole Ive met?
And are all farmers such grade 1 a**holes?


And can I just add to this list

Flooding the lane with water when it rains from his fields due to the
nature of his over cultivation of the land and general growing the guts out
of it.

I have been patient and reasonable and bit my lip and said nothing. but my
hebe ( it flowered beautifully) was the last straw.

How do I replace that - and of course anything I put there will be destroyed
by his big blue tractor before it even has chance to get established ... and
of course he will be turning uninhibited on my drive!



Get an injunction to prevent him using the drive!
With the listed things above he has done to you you would be well within
your rights,........as long as it's your own land.

Get some locked bollards at the end of the drive.

Jason

I am a townie who has just moved to the green stuff. My first impression is
that, round these parts, the f***er is considered,and considers himself, amost
a god. A f***er,s idea of hard times is having to make his new Range Rover last
18 months instead of 12. If you really want to annoy, stop tugging you forelock
when he passes.
Bill Pritchard
Retired and Emotional

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Druss
writes
The papers are full of stories
of people moving to the countryside, for the views and the wildlife and
la
la la, and then suing the farmer for waking them up when trying to milk
his
cows, or making odd smells when cleaning out the pigs, etc etc.

They are?

Which papers do you read?
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

it sounds like most of you have never really understood the farmers life.
the type that you are talking of are usually people with money and nothing
to. so spend it on buying a farm play with big tractors and other toys, and
thinking that they do own the country side. usually these people have come
from the towns and are used to getting their own was no matter what the
consequences are.
in general the traditional farmer is a polite and courteous farmer, all
farmers I have met are like this. they put in very long hours and don't get
much back from it. what job do you know that you have to be on call 24-7
(mainly live stock farmers) getting up at 4 in the morning and not getting
back to bed until 11 at night and get paid below the minimum wage, some half
of that. because the government insist on following what the Bureaucratic
idiots say in Europe and we have to import food stuff but cannot get UK food
into the shops because we all complain about the price of the stuff when we
do go shopping.
if the public gave the farmer more support with their lives things would
most certainly be better for everyone.
I am not making excuses for the few farmers who do have a problem with
townies, but the townies do move into their area and do try to start a new
little town there. racing around as if the lanes are ace tracks, complaining
about noise and smell. if you don't like it then move back to the towns, you
must have know what it was like before moving there, if not more fool you
for not finding out more about the area when moving.
you don't have the farmer complaining when you have a BBQ on Saturday
afternoon, or an evening party that is keeping his cows up.

"martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:37:05 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , Druss
writes
The papers are full of stories
of people moving to the countryside, for the views and the wildlife and
la
la la, and then suing the farmer for waking them up when trying to milk
his
cows, or making odd smells when cleaning out the pigs, etc etc.

They are?

Which papers do you read?

Which papers don't you read?

I have read such reports and I only read Guardian, Independent and DT
online versions.

--
Martin


basically what they are doing is turning the country side into a town which
they moved out of, if that is the case then why not stay in the town in the
first place and let people who would appreciate the country side buy the
properties.
the next thing the townies complain about is how far they have to travel to
work now that they live in the country side. did they not think of that
before upping and moving there. also if they get caught behind a tractor or
other slow moving vehicle they complain, get a life the country side moves
at a slower pace I though that is why townies move there. they have as much
rights to get where they are going on the roads as any other road user. at
least they don't race around like some formula 1 racing driver trying to see
who they kill first themselves or the other drivers on the road. farming has
been with us for generations and it should be here for more as long as
moaning townies and MP's don't drive them to death or bankruptcy first.

farmer alsway look well off on paper with the bank manager because of the
colateral in the land, but if you were to take a look at what they have in
their pockets then they barely have to pennies to rub together.
"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
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In article , martin
writes

A bank manager of a rural bank, where I made the same comment said
"Don't you believe it"
Some are, but not all are having a bad time.

I live sandwiched between 3 farms.
I have noted the long hours the farmers work.
I have noted the lousy, and often dangerous, conditions they work in.
I have seen the care they take of their animals.
They deserve to have as good a time of it as anyone else and certainly,
in my opinion, a much better time than those blinking 'city' bods !!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com

"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
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In article , Druss
writes

I see in this case that Mich has mentioned that some incoming millionaire
type has already threatened the farmer with legal action, it is this kind
of
stupidity and intolerance of the work the farmers are supposed to be
doing
**************************************

Aye . . . producing f o o d.
In my opinion there ain't no more important a job!!

--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com



I agree what is more natural that the farmer trying to produce food for us
to live on.

when we go to our local supermarket and buy a litre of milk we pay £0.50/ltr
or more, out of that 50p the dairy farmer received less than 5p/ltr. so that
will give you an idea of the cut that the supermarkets and milk processing
company take.

A farmer therefore producing 10,000ltrs of milk each week will only receive
£500/week. out of this he has to pay for food for the animals, Veterinary
fees, AI fee's (artificial insemination) all other farm fees, work force
salary, household costs.

so the farmer is not as well of as people suggest. it is a very very small
minority of them can claim to be millionaires in pocket.

"paul" wrote in message
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in general the traditional farmer is a polite and courteous farmer,

Nonsense. The farmer just over the road in front of me is a polite and
courteous rarmer, and the one behind me is a pig with no manners. Their
families have farmed here for centuries.

Franz

"paul" wrote in message
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farmer alsway look well off on paper with the bank manager because of the
colateral in the land, but if you were to take a look at what they have in
their pockets then they barely have to pennies to rub together.

That is a false generalisation.

Franz

aren't farmers human beings, in that you can get differing attitudes.



"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"paul" wrote in message
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[snip]

in general the traditional farmer is a polite and courteous farmer,

Nonsense. The farmer just over the road in front of me is a polite and
courteous rarmer, and the one behind me is a pig with no manners. Their
families have farmed here for centuries.

Franz

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"paul" wrote in message
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farmer alsway look well off on paper with the bank manager because of
the
colateral in the land, but if you were to take a look at what they have
in
their pockets then they barely have to pennies to rub together.

That is a false generalisation.

Franz



I know about 2 farmers and have round and about contact with many many more
and of all of those I could only tell you of one of them that is well of and
that is largely due to them having sold of land for building work.

more and more farmers are having to diversify and turn out building into
work units to help pay their way, but this has an adverse affect in that
they loose storage area and therefore are unable to maintain as much stock
and do not get the pay back.

it is a basic fact of life that most people see the farmers as rich land
owners with nothing to do, which is a farce.

i meant to say 20 farmer not 2 farmers.
"paul" wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"paul" wrote in message
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farmer alsway look well off on paper with the bank manager because of
the
colateral in the land, but if you were to take a look at what they
have
in
their pockets then they barely have to pennies to rub together.

That is a false generalisation.

Franz



I know about 2 farmers and have round and about contact with many many
more
and of all of those I could only tell you of one of them that is well of
and
that is largely due to them having sold of land for building work.

more and more farmers are having to diversify and turn out building into
work units to help pay their way, but this has an adverse affect in that
they loose storage area and therefore are unable to maintain as much stock
and do not get the pay back.

it is a basic fact of life that most people see the farmers as rich land
owners with nothing to do, which is a farce.

In article , paul
writes

snip diatribe against 'townies'

I am getting fed up of the sniping in this ng suggesting that 'townies'
are a lower form of life than all you wonderful people who work in the
country.

You are not the only people in this world who work hard, you are not the
only ones for whom life is getting more difficult, and you are not the
only ones who are finding it difficult to be employed in the same
occupation as your father or grandfather or great grandfather.

And if it were not for 'townies' a great many of the tools, machinery,
and other things on which you depend would not be easily available to
you.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , paul
writes
farmer alsway look well off on paper with the bank manager because of the
colateral in the land, but if you were to take a look at what they have in
their pockets then they barely have to pennies to rub together.
"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
...
In article , martin
writes

A bank manager of a rural bank, where I made the same comment said
"Don't you believe it"
Some are, but not all are having a bad time.

I live sandwiched between 3 farms.
I have noted the long hours the farmers work.
I have noted the lousy, and often dangerous, conditions they work in.
I have seen the care they take of their animals.
They deserve to have as good a time of it as anyone else and certainly,
in my opinion, a much better time than those blinking 'city' bods !!!

Please be careful with your attributions, Paul.
I was not the one saying that farmers were well off.
Perhaps if you hadn't top posted you would have realised you were
replying to the wrong person.

--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com

I am getting fed up of the sniping in this ng suggesting that 'townies'
are a lower form of life than all you wonderful people who work in the
country.

You are not the only people in this world who work hard, you are not the
only ones for whom life is getting more difficult, and you are not the
only ones who are finding it difficult to be employed in the same
occupation as your father or grandfather or great grandfather.

And if it were not for 'townies' a great many of the tools, machinery,
and other things on which you depend would not be easily available to
you.
--
Kay Easton

I was hoping I'd have time to compose a pertinent reply to that post but
we're too busy - going off again tomorrow. I'll add my name to the bottom of
Kay's post, she's omitted nothing and anything I posted would be repetitive.

Mary