Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:09:18 +0000, Pam Moore
wrote:


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:16:21 -0000, CW
wrote:


Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .

I would like to hear more relevant answers to the OP's question.

I did grow some 30 years ago when the seeds were sold in Dobies
catalogue. If I recall they grew to about 5 - 6 feet high. I think I
just composted them at the end of summer, not knowing what to do with
them.
What would have happened if I had left them? they are not frost hardy
are they?

Also, what is the difference between the plants grown for leaves and
those for fibre? What about the flowers? Are they used also? I'm
innocent of these things, just curious.

Pam in Bristol


Much to my surprise, I saw large packets of hemp seed (100g IIRC) on
sale recently in my local health food store. It did say on the label
that it wasn't to be planted though, so obviously no-one would, would
they.



It is not illegal to own the seed, but it is illegal to cultivate/grow
the seed and to process the leaves etc

You see them for sale on ebay all the time!



Jason

--
Check out my ebay auctions for Passifora caerulea and edulis seeds and
Morning Glory (Star of Yelta) seeds.
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....sort=3&rows=50

"Jason Pope" wrote in message
...
: Chris Hogg wrote:
: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:09:18 +0000, Pam Moore
: wrote:
:
:
: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:16:21 -0000, CW
: wrote:
:
:
: Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .
:
: I would like to hear more relevant answers to the OP's question.
:
: I did grow some 30 years ago when the seeds were sold in Dobies
: catalogue.

Google brings up sites that have dozens of prizewinning varieties
with seeds costing £80 for 15 seeds.
I'll stick to magic mushrooms or whiskey it's cheaper

If I recall they grew to about 5 - 6 feet high. I think I
: just composted them at the end of summer, not knowing what to do with
: them.
: What would have happened if I had left them? they are not frost hardy
: are they?
:
: Also, what is the difference between the plants grown for leaves and
: those for fibre? What about the flowers? Are they used also? I'm
: innocent of these things, just curious.
:
: Pam in Bristol
:
:
: Much to my surprise, I saw large packets of hemp seed (100g IIRC) on
: sale recently in my local health food store. It did say on the label
: that it wasn't to be planted though, so obviously no-one would, would
: they.
:
:
:
: It is not illegal to own the seed, but it is illegal to cultivate/grow
: the seed and to process the leaves etc
:
: You see them for sale on ebay all the time!
:
:
:
: Jason
:
: --
: Check out my ebay auctions for Passifora caerulea and edulis seeds and
: Morning Glory (Star of Yelta) seeds.
:
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....userid=murder1
man&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50
:
:
:

"Jason Pope" wrote in message
...
: Chris Hogg wrote:
: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:09:18 +0000, Pam Moore
: wrote:
:
:
: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:16:21 -0000, CW
: wrote:
:
:
: Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .
:
: I would like to hear more relevant answers to the OP's question.
:
: I did grow some 30 years ago when the seeds were sold in Dobies
: catalogue.

Google brings up sites that have dozens of prizewinning varieties
with seeds costing £80 for 15 seeds.
I'll stick to magic mushrooms or whiskey it's cheaper

If I recall they grew to about 5 - 6 feet high. I think I
: just composted them at the end of summer, not knowing what to do with
: them.
: What would have happened if I had left them? they are not frost hardy
: are they?
:
: Also, what is the difference between the plants grown for leaves and
: those for fibre? What about the flowers? Are they used also? I'm
: innocent of these things, just curious.
:
: Pam in Bristol
:
:
: Much to my surprise, I saw large packets of hemp seed (100g IIRC) on
: sale recently in my local health food store. It did say on the label
: that it wasn't to be planted though, so obviously no-one would, would
: they.
:
:
:
: It is not illegal to own the seed, but it is illegal to cultivate/grow
: the seed and to process the leaves etc
:
: You see them for sale on ebay all the time!
:
:
:
: Jason
:
: --
: Check out my ebay auctions for Passifora caerulea and edulis seeds and
: Morning Glory (Star of Yelta) seeds.
:
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....userid=murder1
man&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50
:
:
:

In article ,
Janet Baraclough wrote:

While it is POSSIBLE that such a thing can happen, I am thoroughly
disinclined to believe ANY anti-cannabis story dreamt up by either
the political or the medical establishment.

Tobacco smokers used not to believe the rumour their habit could cause
lung and circulatory disease.

That is a rare case of an officially sanctioned item of propaganda
(which it was) turning out to be more-or-less correct. It was and
is overstated, of course, and is currently being used to divert
attention away from other causes of those problems.

Unfortunately it isn't a story, Nick. I've met many people it's
happened to, all of whom have been medically diagnosed and forcibly
admitted to hospital; and heard their own accounts, and their families'
accounts. It's been recognised for at least a decade in mental health
circles by professionals, patients, support and pressure groups.

As I said, I neither believe nor disbelieve the claim. However, as
the organisations making the claim have been desperately searching
for evidence to justify their anti-cannabis crusade for about a
century now, and have produced many cockamamie claims in that time,
I am disinclined to trust them now.

Medical professionals and pressure groups are one of the few sorts
of people that are WORSE than politicians in their use of spin. The
issue is not whether such symptoms have been observed, but whether
cannabis use is THE cause, A cause, caused by the same factor, or
merely a coincidence.


Do you remember me being flamed for doubting the line that the use
of high-factor "sunscreens" as a protection against skin cancer?
Well, a couple of decades on, the evidence is now supporting what
I said against what the medical dogma said and (to a great extent)
still says is the correct approach.

I could give you dozens of other examples, some of which were earlier,
some comparable in time, and some where I believe the real situation
has yet to become clear but where the medical establishment "knows"
what the conclusion will be.

One of the things about being a statistician is that you should
learn to distinguish between conclusions that are derivable from
the data, ones that are the most likely consequence of the data
and ones that are merely compatible with the data. Medical training
(still) teaches the acceptance of "received wisdom" as primary,
which is one of the reasons some of the eminent, medically qualified
researchers I know regard a medical degree as HARMFUL in a researcher.
And in a Minister of Health or Chief Medical Officer!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Ted Richardson" wrote in message
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"Jason Pope" wrote in message
...
: Chris Hogg wrote:
: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:09:18 +0000, Pam Moore
: wrote:
:
:
: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:16:21 -0000, CW
: wrote:
:
:
: Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .
:
: I would like to hear more relevant answers to the OP's question.
:
: I did grow some 30 years ago when the seeds were sold in Dobies
: catalogue.

Google brings up sites that have dozens of prizewinning varieties
with seeds costing £80 for 15 seeds.
I'll stick to magic mushrooms or whiskey it's cheaper

If I recall they grew to about 5 - 6 feet high. I think I
: just composted them at the end of summer, not knowing what to do with
: them.
: What would have happened if I had left them? they are not frost hardy
: are they?
:
: Also, what is the difference between the plants grown for leaves and
: those for fibre? What about the flowers? Are they used also? I'm
: innocent of these things, just curious.
:
: Pam in Bristol
:
:
: Much to my surprise, I saw large packets of hemp seed (100g IIRC) on
: sale recently in my local health food store. It did say on the label
: that it wasn't to be planted though, so obviously no-one would, would
: they.
:
:
:
: It is not illegal to own the seed, but it is illegal to cultivate/grow
: the seed and to process the leaves etc
:
: You see them for sale on ebay all the time!
:
:
:
: Jason
:
: --
: Check out my ebay auctions for Passifora caerulea and edulis seeds and
: Morning Glory (Star of Yelta) seeds.
:

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....userid=murder1

man&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50
:
:
:



Aaah, morning glory, now you're talking! Heavenly Blue and other varieties
processed with water & napthal correctly provides a wonderful stimulant
hallucinogenic, used by the Mexican Indians for divination purposes for
centuries

And still no one has said that this group is going to pot..

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

"David Hill" wrote in message
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And still no one has said that this group is going to pot..

LOL

When I moved in here 14 years ago, the local council men had just cut down a load of cannabis growing on the riverbank beside my house. When it was wilted nicely, they returned to burn the lot.

Four van loads of council workers, one Zippo lighter and a sunny afternoon wasted.

Hazell B wrote:
Four van loads of council workers, one Zippo lighter and a sunny afternoon
wasted.

You seem to have your words on the wrong order! (;-)


One Zippo lighter and a sunny afternoon - four van loads of council workers
wasted!

pk

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from "David Hill" contains these
words:

And still no one has said that this group is going to pot..

panto

Oh yes they have!

/panto

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

"Pam Moore" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:16:21 -0000, CW
wrote:

Any useful hints and tips for growing cannabis .

I would like to hear more relevant answers to the OP's question.

I did grow some 30 years ago when the seeds were sold in Dobies
catalogue. If I recall they grew to about 5 - 6 feet high. I think I
just composted them at the end of summer, not knowing what to do with
them.
What would have happened if I had left them? they are not frost hardy
are they?

Also, what is the difference between the plants grown for leaves and
those for fibre? What about the flowers? Are they used also? I'm
innocent of these things, just curious.

As far as I know, only the leaves are used for smoking.

An old retired Cape Coloured man called Oujan, now long deceased, lived in
an isolated cottage with a small piece of land at the foot of Waaihoek
mountain in the Cape Province. He used the land solely for growing dagga
(cannabis) and rooibos tea (a very astringent tizane) for his own use.
Members of the Cape Town University Mountaineering Club used to drop in on
Oujan for a cup of rooibos and a pipe of dagga before starting the slog up
the mountain. The stuff which was smoked was plain, dried, untreated
leaves in an ordinary tobacco pipe.

Franz

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:00:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
wrote:


"David Hill" wrote in message
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And still no one has said that this group is going to pot..

LOL


Steady Ophidian! You have already had a yellow card, that matches your
dandelions ( On T!)
--
Martin

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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

Members of the Cape Town University Mountaineering Club used to drop in

Did you know Tony Jones, by any chance? (red haired geologist, dodgy leg)

Janet

On 22 Nov 2003 12:30:24 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

In article ,
Janet Baraclough wrote:

Tobacco smokers used not to believe the rumour their habit could cause
lung and circulatory disease.

That is a rare case of an officially sanctioned item of propaganda
(which it was) turning out to be more-or-less correct. It was and
is overstated, of course, and is currently being used to divert
attention away from other causes of those problems.

And more attention could be given to the fact that stopping smoking leaves you open
to other diseases:
http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band39/b39-5.html

I was stunned when my consultant attributed my colitis to my recent quit.

Liz

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

Members of the Cape Town University Mountaineering Club used to drop in

Did you know Tony Jones, by any chance? (red haired geologist, dodgy
leg)

I cannot recall him I was there during the years 1941 to 1947, and climbed
actively during the years 1944 to 1947. Round about when would he have been
there?

Franz