Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare

bnd777 wrote:

Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare

Euclyptus?
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bnd777 wrote:

Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will
be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare

Euclyptus?

Excellent choice, as long as you realise that it might not be hardy in those
parts of the country where that matters

Franz

bnd7776/12/03 1:18
Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare


It depends a bit on where you live but what about a Myrtus luma apiculata -
that's a Med. type tree which will be very happy with dry roots most of the
time. It's evergreen, has small white flowers and a lovely bark as the tree
ages.
Hilliers says that it grows best in full sun, in mild maritime climates,
though the maritime isn't necessary. We have four or five in the garden,
some of which are self-seeded and one is growing in quite a bit of shade!
Again, in a mild climate, I'd suggest a Hoheria 'Glory of Amlwch' and this
evergreen species will need wall protection because ours can lose its leaves
in cold winters. They flower in July/August with us. Another possible is
Azara microphylla which has scented yellow flowers in early spring. We get
frost here in winter to -7 at its worst, I think. The Azara needs wall
protection, except in mild climates, so could be good for you. The best
thing.
A Magnolia grandiflora is the classic tree to grow against a wall and
another possible, depending o location is an Acacia (mimosa).
If you tell us where you live, it would help to narrow things down a bit
more.
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 01:18:50 +0000 (UTC), bnd777 wrote:

Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare

Arbutus menziesii


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I'd go for Euclyptus gunnii myself, but water it well in the first two summers and try adding some compost when planting, plus a bit of mulch if possible. Then it should get away well and grow like mad for a few years.

They look great if branches are chopped out to make them a bit better shape when older and the bark is gorgous!

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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 01:18:50 +0000 (UTC), bnd777 wrote:

Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare

Arbutus menziesii

I would have thought the soil was too dry, and not acid enough if the
conditions it likes are anything like A. unedus.

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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 01:18:50 +0000 (UTC), bnd777 wrote:

Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare

Arbutus menziesii

I would have thought the soil was too dry, and not acid enough if the
conditions it likes are anything like A. unedus.

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Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Franz Heymann wrote:

"Larry Stoter" wrote in message
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bnd777 wrote:

Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will
be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare

Euclyptus?

Excellent choice, as long as you realise that it might not be hardy in those
parts of the country where that matters

Franz

Even if a Euclyptus gets severely damaged by frost, provided it has been
established for several years, there is a very good chance that it will
shoot from the roots.
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:44:29 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:

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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 01:18:50 +0000 (UTC), bnd777 wrote:

Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare

Arbutus menziesii

I would have thought the soil was too dry, and not acid enough if the
conditions it likes are anything like A. unedus.

The silly thing grows by nature in extremely rocky sites that are
bone dry in summer. It's actually a fairly fast tree to mature --
big specimens aren't all that old, contrary to the bleatings of
some of the ignorescenti we have here.

The main thing it wants is sharp drainage, and the OP seems to
have described such a garden to a T.

It's certainly worth consideration.

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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Franz Heymann wrote:

"Larry Stoter" wrote in message
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bnd777 wrote:

Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has
non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and
will
be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase
...........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a
nightmare

Euclyptus?

Excellent choice, as long as you realise that it might not be hardy in
those
parts of the country where that matters

Franz

Even if a Euclyptus gets severely damaged by frost, provided it has been
established for several years, there is a very good chance that it will
shoot from the roots.

That is so. However, the OP specifically asked for " a tall evergreen tree
". If the Eucalyptus has to be continually regrown from the roots, it will
never become a tall tree.

Franz

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 01:18:50 +0000 (UTC), "bnd777"
wrote:

Need a tall evergreen tree (but definitely not a Conifer) that has non
invasive roots because it will be close to a stone garden wall and will be
happy in very deep dry sandy soil on a gravel subase ..........trying to
keep the soil moist in summer even with tons of compost is a nightmare

If you exclude conifers, evergreen trees are in the minority, it
seems. Whether any of the following will be tall enough for you, or
hardy enough, or whether they'll take dry sandy soil, I don't know,
but it'll give you some suggestions to follow up.

Hoheria angustifolia
Nothofagus betuloides
Nothofagus dombeyi
Quercus agrifolia
Quercus Ilex (Holm oak)
Quercus suber (cork oak)
Umbellularia californica
Ilex aquifolium (holly) varieties
Eucryphia nymansensis (needs an acid soil)
Embothrium coccinem
Photinia davidiana



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Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

Thanks for all the ideas ......will now look them up for more info

Soil is definitely alkaline and spot the I need the tree for can get a
little wind blown at times

bnd7777/12/03 9:40

Thanks for all the ideas ......will now look them up for more info

Soil is definitely alkaline and spot the I need the tree for can get a
little wind blown at times

IME, Eucalyptus can keel over in the wind, even when beside a wall (I had
this in a previous, walled, garden) If there is a problem wind wind that
could affect the tree, you need to ask yourself how important it is to have
a tall tree. Is it to screen something else? Or is it to be an eye-drawing
feature to that part of your garden? If the former, the wind is always
going to be a problem, so you need to choose something sturdy and if the
latter, you can go for bushier but perhaps colourful, things.
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Thanks for all the ideas ......will now look them up for more info

Soil is definitely alkaline and spot the I need the tree for can get a
little wind blown at times