On 26 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:43:26 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| Cockroaches aren't destructive or injurious to health.
| Try these:
| http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/6...ockroaches.PDF
|
| http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/Busines...ockroaches.pdf
|
| and if you don't think much of the UK links, try the WHO:
| http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sa...ntrol/ch31.htm

The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK. Mosquitoes are
there and not here.

The post I replied to didn't say "serious". Nor did it mention the tropics
either. The first two links I posted were from UK council sites.
--
Tim C.

In article ,
martin writes:
| On 26 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
|
| The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
| not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK.
|
| The H&SE think they are. Restaurants with resident cockroaches are
| closed down.

Bureaucracy and science have little in common.

| Mosquitoes are
| there and not here.
|
| and unless you live near a major international airport.

Even then, only for some ridiculous meaning of the word "serious".


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:13:54 +0100, martin wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:55:07 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote:

On 26 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:43:26 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| Cockroaches aren't destructive or injurious to health.
| Try these:
| http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/6...ockroaches.PDF
|
| http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/Busines...ockroaches.pdf
|
| and if you don't think much of the UK links, try the WHO:
| http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sa...ntrol/ch31.htm

The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK. Mosquitoes are
there and not here.

The post I replied to didn't say "serious". Nor did it mention the tropics
either. The first two links I posted were from UK council sites.

The first even from Barking Dagenham.
I like it :-)

I hadn't thought of it like that! :-)
--
Tim C.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:28:28 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote:

"Martin" wrote in
:

Sacha wrote:

To state to others that they are vermin
is not only misleading but in your case it is downright dishonest and
if someone chose to take it far enough, could even be actionable.

I'm not interested in joining the debate about cats, but I strongly
believe that the statement above is just plain wrong at best. It would
not be possible to raise a successful action against someone who
called cats vermin in a newsgroup.

Indeed. I feel, though, that pointing out that deliberately hurting or
killing other people's pets is wrong was a worthwhile thing to do.

The archive could otherwise give the impression that the group is of one
mind, because no-one protested.

Only if you have half the urg posters in your kill file, several
people have protested, including me.


Protesting about something you believe is wrong is a good thing, even if
she did get a bit carried away.

I also believe that deliberately hurting or killing other people's pets is
wrong. I would not do it myself, regardless of the provocation and I would
step in if I saw someone else planning to do it.

So far, though, I don't think anyone who is an identifiable poster (rather
than an anonymous and unreliable troll) has actually said they are planning
to do this?

Franz is neither a troll nor an unidentifiable poster and he implied
that he was planning to do this.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:55:07 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote:

On 26 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:43:26 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| Cockroaches aren't destructive or injurious to health.
| Try these:
| http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/6...ockroaches.PDF
|
| http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/Busines...ockroaches.pdf
|
| and if you don't think much of the UK links, try the WHO:
| http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sa...ntrol/ch31.htm

The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK. Mosquitoes are
there and not here.

The post I replied to didn't say "serious". Nor did it mention the tropics
either. The first two links I posted were from UK council sites.

The first even from Barking Dagenham.
I like it :-)

"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
In message , Mike
writes
If you don't like my attitude and my stance, don't cross me. You won't
win.

I find it sad that an adult needs to write something like this.

I agree
this a very childlike like phrase, the sort of thing you could expect from
a teenager or younger, it shows a very selfish and self centred attitude,
also reflected in his single minded hatred and unwillingness to compromise
or even
entertain (or listen to) any one elses point of view.
argument becomes pointless.

H

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message

I believe that deliberately hurting or killing other people's pets is
wrong. I would not do it myself, regardless of the provocation and I
would
step in if I saw someone else planning to do it.

So do I, so would I, I've seen the heartache caused by a pet cat being shot
by a neighbour.

But they - cats - can be VERY destructive (as can humans) and engender a lot
of problems. It's understandable that victims of their activities feel
helpless to do anything about it.

So far, though, I don't think anyone who is an identifiable poster (rather
than an anonymous and unreliable troll) has actually said they are
planning
to do this?

I don't either. It's the almost hysterical ranting which has caused more
reaction. Some people can't seem to understand the difference between
light-hearted provocation and deliberate nastiness and always assume the
latter.

:-)

Mary

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

In article ,
martin writes:
| On 26 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
|
| The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
| not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK.
|
| The H&SE think they are. Restaurants with resident cockroaches are
| closed down.

Bureaucracy and science have little in common.

| Mosquitoes are
| there and not here.
|
| and unless you live near a major international airport.

Even then, only for some ridiculous meaning of the word "serious".


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 26 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:


In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:43:26 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| Cockroaches aren't destructive or injurious to health.
| Try these:
| http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/6...ockroaches.PDF
|
| http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/Busines...ockroaches.pdf
|
| and if you don't think much of the UK links, try the WHO:
| http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sa...ntrol/ch31.htm

The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK.

The H&SE think they are. Restaurants with resident cockroaches are
closed down.

Mosquitoes are
there and not here.

and unless you live near a major international airport.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:32:11 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:43:26 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:

Cockroaches aren't destructive or injurious to health.
Try these:
http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/6...ockroaches.PDF

http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/Busines...ockroaches.pdf

and if you don't think much of the UK links, try the WHO:
http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sa...ntrol/ch31.htm


There's no reason they should even be annoying.
If they crawl around leaving bad-smelling shit in your cornfalkes. I'd call
that annoying.

That aint a cockroach, its a Norwegian Blue.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:13:54 +0100, martin wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:55:07 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote:

On 26 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:43:26 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| Cockroaches aren't destructive or injurious to health.
| Try these:
| http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/6...ockroaches.PDF
|
| http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/Busines...ockroaches.pdf
|
| and if you don't think much of the UK links, try the WHO:
| http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sa...ntrol/ch31.htm

The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK. Mosquitoes are
there and not here.

The post I replied to didn't say "serious". Nor did it mention the tropics
either. The first two links I posted were from UK council sites.

The first even from Barking Dagenham.
I like it :-)

I hadn't thought of it like that! :-)
--
Tim C.

"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
In message , Mike
writes
If you don't like my attitude and my stance, don't cross me. You won't
win.

I find it sad that an adult needs to write something like this.

I agree
this a very childlike like phrase, the sort of thing you could expect from
a teenager or younger, it shows a very selfish and self centred attitude,
also reflected in his single minded hatred and unwillingness to compromise
or even
entertain (or listen to) any one elses point of view.
argument becomes pointless.

H

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:55:07 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote:

On 26 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:43:26 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| Cockroaches aren't destructive or injurious to health.
| Try these:
| http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/6...ockroaches.PDF
|
| http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/Busines...ockroaches.pdf
|
| and if you don't think much of the UK links, try the WHO:
| http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sa...ntrol/ch31.htm

The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK. Mosquitoes are
there and not here.

The post I replied to didn't say "serious". Nor did it mention the tropics
either. The first two links I posted were from UK council sites.

The first even from Barking Dagenham.
I like it :-)

In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:43:26 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| Cockroaches aren't destructive or injurious to health.
| Try these:
| http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/6...ockroaches.PDF
|
| http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/Busines...ockroaches.pdf
|
| and if you don't think much of the UK links, try the WHO:
| http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sa...ntrol/ch31.htm

The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK. Mosquitoes are
there and not here.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

argument becomes pointless.



You seem unable to understand.

There is no arguement.

Cats are vermin, dirty and foul creatures and destroy people's lives and
their hobbies.

If you cannot understand this, you are blinkered.