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Because I had been hearing noise in the 'green' room that was an add-on to
this place(mobile home) and I thought it was rats/mice(the walls on the
inside, when it was added on, they put insulation in, but nothing covering
it, and we've got stuff to fix that, but it's a 2person job, and mom's been
gone most of last few months staying in town), but tonight mom and I just
happened to be outside next to that room, and I heard the noises again, and
mentioned it to mom, and by the time we started counting all the bats that
flew out, we got to 215/216 before they stopped coming out and the noise
stopped as well. I was just...I couldn't believe it. I figure 2 or 3 dozen
at least flew out before we started counting, so that's probably at least
250 bats living in the walls. And I want them outside...I don't mind them
living on the property, just in their own houses, not OURS!



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I was just...I couldn't believe it. I figure 2 or 3 dozen
at least flew out before we started counting, so that's probably at least
250 bats living in the walls. And I want them outside...I don't mind them
living on the property, just in their own houses, not OURS!


Some people have all the luck. I have been studying bats for years,
made several documentaries, had rabies shots so I could work with them
and just plain dig bats. When we moved out to the country the first
thing we did was to put up a bat house. In 12 years, we have seen only
a few (total 5?) in it.

It is now obvious that we live in a area where colonial bats do not live
and the forest dwellers sleep in trees.

You obviously live in a place where colonial bats do live and I envy
you. It is possible to coax them out and into a new bathouse. If you
have that many, it will be a serious project and I suggest that you
contact Bat Conservation International ( Google BCI) for help.

I don't know where you live and could only guess at the possible species
but the first thing you need to do is identify them as there are a
number of species on the endangered list.

Merlin Tuttle is the director and we know him well so say hi for us if
you talk to him.

Good luck and keep us posted.

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Some people have all the luck. I have been studying bats for years,
made several documentaries, had rabies shots so I could work with them
and just plain dig bats.


How much of an occurence is it for bats to carry rabies anyways? Joxer's
been an inside cat since before his last rabies vaccination expired, and as
far as I knew, no exposure to any critter that was a possible carrier(there
are no mice/rats here, not he even tries to be a hunter anymore), since it
requres him getting off his nice comfy spot on the couch. But now with all
these bats, I don't want to take any chances. He will get his vaccination
current.


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How much of an occurence is it for bats to carry rabies anyways? Joxer's
been an inside cat since before his last rabies vaccination expired, and as
far as I knew, no exposure to any critter that was a possible carrier(there
are no mice/rats here, not he even tries to be a hunter anymore), since it
requres him getting off his nice comfy spot on the couch. But now with all
these bats, I don't want to take any chances. He will get his vaccination
current.



Can vary year to year, 4%-11% of the bats tested that were gathered by
the public...1%, usually less than 1%, of the bats that were collected
in the wild in the form of random studies.

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Can vary year to year, 4%-11% of the bats tested that were gathered by
the public...1%, usually less than 1%, of the bats that were collected
in the wild in the form of random studies.

Lar


Ok thank you. On a side note, went to make sure all the hens were in the
coop so I could toss the roosters out(they roam the yard during the day
anyway, and one of the roosters, wasn't as content for me just to pick them
up and put them out of the coop, got loose and ran around the coop running
into anything it could. The fence around the coop yard, the 'wall/door'
between the roosting area and the coop yard, the walls inside the roosting
area, the door to the yard, anything...was kinda funny...rooster obviously
wasn't too smart, eventually I just opened the door and it ran out into the
yard, still squawking it's head off.




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You obviously live in a place where colonial bats do live and I envy
you. It is possible to coax them out and into a new bathouse. If you
have that many, it will be a serious project and I suggest that you
contact Bat Conservation International ( Google BCI) for help.

I don't know where you live and could only guess at the possible species
but the first thing you need to do is identify them as there are a
number of species on the endangered list.

Merlin Tuttle is the director and we know him well so say hi for us if
you talk to him.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Jack Schmidling


I will check them out when I go to the library this afternoon and have
internet access there(well lemme rephrase that, I have internet access here,
I just can't do anything but newsgroups). And will keep you posted. They
were small dark bats, I figure maybe at best 18inches from wingtip to
wingtip. Anymore I couldn't really tell you, it was dusk so I could see them
and that was about it.


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I will check them out when I go to the library this afternoon and have
internet access there(well lemme rephrase that, I have internet access

here,
I just can't do anything but newsgroups). And will keep you posted. They
were small dark bats, I figure maybe at best 18inches from wingtip to
wingtip. Anymore I couldn't really tell you, it was dusk so I could see

them
and that was about it.


Crap the library was closed...new summer hours. On the bright side, went out
driving and found a nice creek area, and got some elderberry and red willow
cuttings :-)


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On Jul 2, 9:22 am, "Lilah Morgan" wrote:
They
were small dark bats, I figure maybe at best 18inches from wingtip to
wingtip.


18 INCHES!!!
Holy Batman, Lilah

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haha well my mom disagrees, she thinks they were only at best 7inches from
wingtip to wingtip, but I have no desire to try and catch one to find
out...I suck at stuff like that. I really can't remember what an inch is(if
you asked to make a line the size of an inch, I'd screw it up). Maybe I was
thinking 18centimeters...whatever, they really weren't big...they came out a
tiny slit in the wall on the outside of the house

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On Jul 2, 9:22 am, "Lilah Morgan" wrote:
They
were small dark bats, I figure maybe at best 18inches from wingtip to
wingtip.


18 INCHES!!!
Holy Batman, Lilah

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( o o )
"yikes"

O

Emilie



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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 05:55:32 GMT, "Lilah Morgan"
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"Jack Schmidling" wrote in message
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Some people have all the luck. I have been studying bats for years,
made several documentaries, had rabies shots so I could work with them
and just plain dig bats.


How much of an occurence is it for bats to carry rabies anyways? Joxer's
been an inside cat since before his last rabies vaccination expired, and as
far as I knew, no exposure to any critter that was a possible carrier(there
are no mice/rats here, not he even tries to be a hunter anymore), since it
requres him getting off his nice comfy spot on the couch. But now with all
these bats, I don't want to take any chances. He will get his vaccination
current.


Here in Austin, TX we have two of the largest urban bat colonies
living under bridges. One bridge houses almost 2 million, and the one
up the road from me houses about a million. There hasn't been one
case of rabies in the whole fourteen years I've lived in TX. It is
extremely rare. Bats with rabies are rare, but even if they do have
rabies they just fall and die. It's people who insist on handling a
bat on the ground who are prone to rabies. Again, I believe there
have been 13 documented cases in a very many years, all due to
handling bats on the ground.


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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:29:30 GMT, "Lilah Morgan"
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Because I had been hearing noise in the 'green' room that was an add-on to
this place(mobile home) and I thought it was rats/mice(the walls on the
inside, when it was added on, they put insulation in, but nothing covering
it, and we've got stuff to fix that, but it's a 2person job, and mom's been
gone most of last few months staying in town), but tonight mom and I just
happened to be outside next to that room, and I heard the noises again, and
mentioned it to mom, and by the time we started counting all the bats that
flew out, we got to 215/216 before they stopped coming out and the noise
stopped as well. I was just...I couldn't believe it. I figure 2 or 3 dozen
at least flew out before we started counting, so that's probably at least
250 bats living in the walls. And I want them outside...I don't mind them
living on the property, just in their own houses, not OURS!


You have already received some good info from Jack. I'll
just add this link for another Bat organization that is
located at the Cranbrook institute in Bloomfield Hills, MI.

http://www.batconservation.org/

Lots of good information available via that site.

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On Jul 2, 10:34 pm, "Lilah Morgan" wrote:
haha well my mom disagrees, she thinks they were only at best 7inches from
wingtip to wingtip, .......whatever, they really weren't big...they came out a
tiny slit in the wall on the outside of the house


Whew-glad to hear that (grin)
I was just thinking what a bat house that would be...............
to hold 200 bats with 18 inch wingspans!!!
LOL
Emilie


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On Jul 2, 9:22 am, "Lilah Morgan" wrote:
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were small dark bats, I figure maybe at best 18inches from wingtip to
wingtip.


18 INCHES!!!
Holy Batman, Lilah


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( o o )
"yikes"

O


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On 2007-07-02 00:29:30 -0400, "Lilah Morgan" said:

Because I had been hearing noise in the 'green' room that was an add-on to
this place(mobile home) and I thought it was rats/mice(the walls on the
inside, when it was added on, they put insulation in, but nothing covering
it, and we've got stuff to fix that, but it's a 2person job, and mom's been
gone most of last few months staying in town), but tonight mom and I just
happened to be outside next to that room, and I heard the noises again, and
mentioned it to mom, and by the time we started counting all the bats that
flew out, we got to 215/216 before they stopped coming out and the noise
stopped as well. I was just...I couldn't believe it. I figure 2 or 3 dozen
at least flew out before we started counting, so that's probably at least
250 bats living in the walls. And I want them outside...I don't mind them
living on the property, just in their own houses, not OURS!


My wife and I had a brown bat colony in our attic. They are very
territorial, and dont want to leave their "home" and so will do
whatever they can to get back into the house.
We hired a "bat guy" (basically a carpenter who knows a little about bats)
he sealed up the house around the roof with mesh wire and installed a
one way door. Once the bat flies out, the door will not allow them in.
Once the bats were all out, he uninstalled the door and closed up the
house. He then cleaned up the attic for us, something we could have
done, but he explained that dried guano (bat poo) can get dusty and if
you breath it in can be very bad for you.

This was really the only method for removing the colony, and was over 6
years ago. No bats have returned.

hth

dvsjr

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You obviously live in a place where colonial bats do live and I envy
you. It is possible to coax them out and into a new bathouse. If you
have that many, it will be a serious project and I suggest that you
contact Bat Conservation International ( Google BCI) for help.


I went to their website, and I couldn't identify our bats since I didn't get
a close look at them, and couldn't find any plans for bat houses(we have a
blueprint, but I read on BCI's site that some aren't reliable). So I am
going to look again today and send an email.


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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:02:39 GMT, "Lilah Morgan"
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"Jack Schmidling" wrote in message
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You obviously live in a place where colonial bats do live and I envy
you. It is possible to coax them out and into a new bathouse. If you
have that many, it will be a serious project and I suggest that you
contact Bat Conservation International ( Google BCI) for help.


I went to their website, and I couldn't identify our bats since I didn't get
a close look at them, and couldn't find any plans for bat houses(we have a
blueprint, but I read on BCI's site that some aren't reliable). So I am
going to look again today and send an email.


You can find kits, info, plans to build your own bat houses
he

http://www.batconservation.org/conte...mportance.html


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