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In article . 131,
Jane Galt wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:
How many people were killed by Fukishima, NOT the tsunami?

AND Fukishima was 1970's technology, Chernobyl was 1950's technology.

They now have safe clean nuclear that would even be safe in such
tsunami conditions.

http://www.planetarybillofrights.org...orAllTime.html

Just get the environazis out of the way.


So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power, having
carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change you shift
the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually much the same,
accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and repeating chants you
like the sound of that you don't quite understand. No surprise. Either
your courage or your knowledge is insufficient to carry on a responsive
conversation, which is it?

David


So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions of "Man
Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".


Wind, solar, and tidal energy doesn't pollute. You nuclear energy types
could vitrify the waste, or send it to the sun, but the real problem is
that then nuclear energy isn't competitive in the market place. But that
isn't our problem. You want it. You sell it. We will want to see the
numbers.

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Welcome to the New America.
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In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Jane Galt wrote:

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power,
having carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change
you shift the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually much
the same, accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and
repeating chants you like the sound of that you don't quite
understand. No surprise. Either your courage or your knowledge is
insufficient to carry on a responsive conversation, which is it?

David


So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions of
"Man Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".


On the contrary I care little for faith. I care much for evidence and
reasoning, you should give it a try. Let me start you off, here is your
post:

quote
Has nothing to do with the fact that government FUNDED weather organizations
were lying with their data, we may actually be entering a period of global
cooling, and the climate has been changing for billions of years!

In fact there were periods in Europe when thet couldn't even grow crops and
were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions!
unquote

The next part is where you respond and present your evidence for these
claims that you say show climate change is a fraud. You need to establish
both the truth AND the relevance of these statements to your position:

1 - weather organisations were lying with their data
2 - we may be entering a period of global cooling
3 - climate has been changing for billions of years
4 - there were periods in Europe when they couldn't even grow crops and were
all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions

Take them one by one, show us your understanding. Or you could disappear
again.

David


You want a reasoned conversation from a "Bagger"? Are you mad, man?

Yes in deed, Global Forcing is at work , and we are supposed to be
heading into a new Ice Age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling#Orbital_forcing
So why are we heating up, Jane, you sycophant of an adulterous false
prophet?

CO2 is what is wrong, and it started rising as soon as man put plow to
dirt, and has only accelerated with industrialization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere
http://skepticalscience.net/pdf/rebu...-co2-measureme
nts-intermediate.pdf

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power,
having carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change
you shift the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually much
the same, accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and
repeating chants you like the sound of that you don't quite
understand. No surprise. Either your courage or your knowledge is
insufficient to carry on a responsive conversation, which is it?

David


So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions of
"Man Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".


On the contrary I care little for faith. I care much for evidence and
reasoning, you should give it a try. Let me start you off, here is your
post:

quote
Has nothing to do with the fact that government FUNDED weather
organizations were lying with their data, we may actually be entering a
period of global cooling, and the climate has been changing for billions
of years!

In fact there were periods in Europe when thet couldn't even grow crops
and were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions!
unquote

The next part is where you respond and present your evidence for these
claims that you say show climate change is a fraud. You need to
establish both the truth AND the relevance of these statements to your
position:

1 - weather organisations were lying with their data
2 - we may be entering a period of global cooling
3 - climate has been changing for billions of years
4 - there were periods in Europe when they couldn't even grow crops and
were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions

Take them one by one, show us your understanding. Or you could
disappear again.

David


NOTHING anyone could say would convince Progressive Socialists who have the
agenda of collapsing and globalizing the United States into global
socialism. AND the alleged "scientists" running the "Man Made Global
Warming" smoke & mirrors show, get their incomes from huge government
grants, and are in many cases employed by these Progressive Socialist
governments. So yes, it is a religion of blind faith state worship to
people like you, and nothing that anyone could say will convince you,
because you refuse to see.

Just wait for the Collapse you're causing and I hope you enjoy it before
you die from it.

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Billy wrote :

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Jane Galt wrote:

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power,
having carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change
you shift the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually much
the same, accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and
repeating chants you like the sound of that you don't quite
understand. No surprise. Either your courage or your knowledge is
insufficient to carry on a responsive conversation, which is it?

David

So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions of
"Man Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".


On the contrary I care little for faith. I care much for evidence and
reasoning, you should give it a try. Let me start you off, here is
your post:

quote
Has nothing to do with the fact that government FUNDED weather
organizations were lying with their data, we may actually be entering a
period of global cooling, and the climate has been changing for
billions of years!

In fact there were periods in Europe when thet couldn't even grow crops
and were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions!
unquote

The next part is where you respond and present your evidence for these
claims that you say show climate change is a fraud. You need to
establish both the truth AND the relevance of these statements to your
position:

1 - weather organisations were lying with their data
2 - we may be entering a period of global cooling
3 - climate has been changing for billions of years
4 - there were periods in Europe when they couldn't even grow crops and
were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions

Take them one by one, show us your understanding. Or you could
disappear again.

David


You want a reasoned conversation from a "Bagger"? Are you mad, man?

Yes in deed, Global Forcing is at work , and we are supposed to be
heading into a new Ice Age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling#Orbital_forcing
So why are we heating up, Jane, you sycophant of an adulterous false
prophet?

CO2 is what is wrong, and it started rising as soon as man put plow to
dirt, and has only accelerated with industrialization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere
http://skepticalscience.net/pdf/rebu...-co2-measureme
nts-intermediate.pdf


BULLSHIT!

With your false reasoning, man must be eliminated to "save the earth"!
Kill yourself and lower the CO2, won't you?

All that pseudo science completely ignores the FACT that plants take in CO2
and put out O2! Any indoor pot grower knows that they can speed up plant
growth by putting CO2 into the room.

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"Farm1" wrote :

"Jane Galt" wrote in message
. 121.131...
"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:
How many people were killed by Fukishima, NOT the tsunami?

AND Fukishima was 1970's technology, Chernobyl was 1950's technology.

They now have safe clean nuclear that would even be safe in such
tsunami conditions.


http://www.planetarybillofrights.org...orAllTime.html

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power, having
carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change you shift
the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually much the same,
accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and repeating chants

you
like the sound of that you don't quite understand. No surprise.

Either
your courage or your knowledge is insufficient to carry on a responsive
conversation, which is it?

David


So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions of

"Man
Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".


Harsh? As opposed to your use of 'environazis'?




What else would we call people who think that man must be eradicated, to
"save the earth" and that humans are a blight on the ecosystem instead of
being part of it? Who want to tax people to death and into ruin, to make a
0.1 degree temperature difference in 100 years, when the real agenda is
global socialism and to eliminate human civilization?





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Billy wrote :

In article . 131,
Jane Galt wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:
How many people were killed by Fukishima, NOT the tsunami?

AND Fukishima was 1970's technology, Chernobyl was 1950's
technology.

They now have safe clean nuclear that would even be safe in such
tsunami conditions.

http://www.planetarybillofrights.org...gyForAllTime.h
tml

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power,
having carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change
you shift the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually much
the same, accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and
repeating chants you like the sound of that you don't quite
understand. No surprise. Either your courage or your knowledge is
insufficient to carry on a responsive conversation, which is it?

David


So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions of
"Man Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".


Wind, solar, and tidal energy doesn't pollute. You nuclear energy types
could vitrify the waste, or send it to the sun, but the real problem is
that then nuclear energy isn't competitive in the market place. But that
isn't our problem. You want it. You sell it. We will want to see the
numbers.


You're obviously not up on the latest safe clean nuclear technology, in
which waste isn't even a consideration anymore, with recycling. Check out a
Yahoo Group called Safe Clean Nuclear Energy, and quit talking about
Chernobyl aged technology, because they have it from a physics professor
that we have enough safe clean nuclear to power every home and vehicle on
earth for 2 billion years.

And as for being competitive in the marketplace, yes it would be, and with
private money, IF the e-nazis would be taken off the backs of the industry
and kept from regulating and suing it out of profitability!

But hey, much better to eliminate man than to solve problems, eh?
Just create a global Marxist society like North Korea and starve everyone
to death to "save the earth".



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"Farm1" wrote :

"Jane Galt" wrote in message
. 121.131...
Wildbilly wrote :

In article , "Farm1"
wrote:

"Jane Galt" wrote in message
. 121.131...
Billy wrote :
When will it be safe for the farmers of Fukushima to resume their
livelihood, and grow non-toxic crops again?


Who was harmed by it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20707753
and
http://nipponnews.photoshelter.com/g...Matsumura-Livi
ng -in-Fu kushima-Nuclear-Zone/G0000m1Fx8LsFjt8
and
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/08/d...-dried-meat-st
ic king-a round-the-bone-of-dead-cattle-12km-area/
and
http://www.occupyforanimals.org/fuku...ft-behind.html
and
https://www.facebook.com/20kmlife

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xabnoPsA9X4


Ah, the "No Nukes" movement from the 60's. How quaint.

Yet 21st century nuclear technology is completely safe, despite whiny
socialist propagandist enviro-nazis.


If it's so safe then when are you offeing to store all those spent fuel
rods in your bedroom?


1950's technology, ass clown!



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"Farm1" wrote :

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Jane Galt wrote:
How many people were killed by Fukishima, NOT the tsunami?

AND Fukishima was 1970's technology, Chernobyl was 1950's technology.

They now have safe clean nuclear that would even be safe in such
tsunami conditions.

http://www.planetarybillofrights.org...ForAllTime.htm
l

Just get the environazis out of the way.


So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power, having
carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change you shift
the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually much the same,
accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and repeating chants
you like the sound of that you don't quite understand. No surprise.
Either your courage or your knowledge is insufficient to carry on a
responsive conversation, which is it?


The author of the nuclear diatribe is a Tea Bagger. 'Nuff said
methinks.


You're a tea bagger, a real one, who sucks balls for a living!

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Billy wrote :

In article . 131,
Jane Galt wrote:

Wildbilly wrote :

In article , "Farm1"
wrote:

"Jane Galt" wrote in message
. 121.131...
Billy wrote :
When will it be safe for the farmers of Fukushima to resume their
livelihood, and grow non-toxic crops again?


Who was harmed by it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20707753
and
http://nipponnews.photoshelter.com/g...-Matsumura-Liv
ing -in-Fu kushima-Nuclear-Zone/G0000m1Fx8LsFjt8
and
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/08/d...e-dried-meat-s
tic king-a round-the-bone-of-dead-cattle-12km-area/
and
http://www.occupyforanimals.org/fuku...ft-behind.html
and
https://www.facebook.com/20kmlife

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xabnoPsA9X4


Ah, the "No Nukes" movement from the 60's. How quaint.

Yet 21st century nuclear technology is completely safe, despite whiny
socialist propagandist enviro-nazis.

We have enough safe clean nuclear to cheaply power the whole world for
2 billion years.

http://www.planetarybillofrights.org...orAllTime.html


Blah, blah, blah. If nuclear energy was safe, the investors in nuclear
energy wouldn't require that government underwrite their insurance. Got
to put your money where your big, fat mouth is, sweety.


Like I just said, the industry has been regulated and harassed with
lawsuits by environazis, nearly out of existence, yet it STILL generates
20% of U.S. electricity and 70% in France, which is a socialist nation. Why
would socialists have it generating 70%? Don't they want to "save the
earth"? Oh, why they must think it safe and clean.
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Billy wrote :

In article . 131,
Jane Galt wrote:

"Farm1" wrote :

"Jane Galt" wrote in message
. 121.131...
Billy wrote :
When will it be safe for the farmers of Fukushima to resume their
livelihood, and grow non-toxic crops again?


Who was harmed by it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20707753
and
http://nipponnews.photoshelter.com/g...Matsumura-Livi
ng- in-Fukushima-Nuclear-Zone/G0000m1Fx8LsFjt8 and
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/08/d...-dried-meat-st
ick ing-around-the-bone-of-dead-cattle-12km-area/ and
http://www.occupyforanimals.org/fuku...ft-behind.html
and
https://www.facebook.com/20kmlife




How many people were killed by Fukishima, NOT the tsunami?

AND Fukishima was 1970's technology, Chernobyl was 1950's technology.

They now have safe clean nuclear that would even be safe in such
tsunami conditions.

http://www.planetarybillofrights.org...orAllTime.html

Just get the environazis out of the way.


Hey, as stated above we can't stop industry if they want to build
reactors, but don't expect tax-payers to pay their insurance. Let them
leak a few curies of radiation, and we'll have their villas. Put your
money where your mouth is, sweety.


As I stated, modern technology is safe and clean, and COULD be privately
profitable, IF the enviro-nazis could be taken off the backs of the
industry.


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Jane Galt wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power,
having carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change
you shift the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually
much the same, accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and
repeating chants you like the sound of that you don't quite
understand. No surprise. Either your courage or your knowledge is
insufficient to carry on a responsive conversation, which is it?

David

So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions
of "Man Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".


On the contrary I care little for faith. I care much for evidence
and reasoning, you should give it a try. Let me start you off, here
is your post:

quote
Has nothing to do with the fact that government FUNDED weather
organizations were lying with their data, we may actually be
entering a period of global cooling, and the climate has been
changing for billions of years!

In fact there were periods in Europe when thet couldn't even grow
crops and were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions!
unquote

The next part is where you respond and present your evidence for
these claims that you say show climate change is a fraud. You need
to establish both the truth AND the relevance of these statements to
your position:

1 - weather organisations were lying with their data
2 - we may be entering a period of global cooling
3 - climate has been changing for billions of years
4 - there were periods in Europe when they couldn't even grow crops
and were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions

Take them one by one, show us your understanding. Or you could
disappear again.

David


NOTHING anyone could say would convince Progressive Socialists who
have the agenda of collapsing and globalizing the United States into
global socialism.


Where are these people you refer to? What has that got to do with me? You
know nothing about me or my politics, not that it is relevant, other than I
have asked you to make your case. Yet once again you retreat tossing
nothing but bluster behind you.

AND the alleged "scientists" running the "Man Made
Global Warming" smoke & mirrors show, get their incomes from huge
government grants, and are in many cases employed by these
Progressive Socialist governments. So yes, it is a religion of blind
faith state worship to people like you, and nothing that anyone could
say will convince you, because you refuse to see.


It is clearly impossible for me to see what you haven't yet presented. You
have had several opportunities to fix this and dodged and weaved every time.
You made four statements and cannot support one of them. When it's time to
step up and take your swing you are still hiding in the weeds calling out
school-yard insults.

Unless you are prepared to engage with the issue I have nothing more to say.

David







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"Jane Galt" wrote in message
. 121.131...
"Farm1" wrote :

"Jane Galt" wrote in message
. 121.131...
"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:
How many people were killed by Fukishima, NOT the tsunami?

AND Fukishima was 1970's technology, Chernobyl was 1950's technology.

They now have safe clean nuclear that would even be safe in such
tsunami conditions.


http://www.planetarybillofrights.org...orAllTime.html

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power, having
carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change you shift
the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually much the same,
accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and repeating chants

you
like the sound of that you don't quite understand. No surprise.

Either
your courage or your knowledge is insufficient to carry on a responsive
conversation, which is it?

David

So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions of

"Man
Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".


Harsh? As opposed to your use of 'environazis'?




What else would we call people who think that man must be eradicated, to
"save the earth" and that humans are a blight on the ecosystem instead of
being part of it? Who want to tax people to death and into ruin, to make a
0.1 degree temperature difference in 100 years, when the real agenda is
global socialism and to eliminate human civilization?


You need help.


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Farm1 wrote:
"Jane Galt" wrote in message
. 121.131...
"Farm1" wrote :

"Jane Galt" wrote in message
. 121.131...
"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:
How many people were killed by Fukishima, NOT the tsunami?

AND Fukishima was 1970's technology, Chernobyl was 1950's
technology.

They now have safe clean nuclear that would even be safe in such
tsunami conditions.


http://www.planetarybillofrights.org...orAllTime.html

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power,
having carefully avoided defending your errors about climate
change you shift the topic. No surprise. But the content is
actually much the same, accusing your perceived opposition of bad
faith and repeating chants you like the sound of that you don't
quite understand. No surprise. Either your courage or your
knowledge is insufficient to carry on a responsive conversation,
which is it?

David

So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions
of "Man Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".

Harsh? As opposed to your use of 'environazis'?




What else would we call people who think that man must be
eradicated, to "save the earth" and that humans are a blight on the
ecosystem instead of being part of it? Who want to tax people to
death and into ruin, to make a
0.1 degree temperature difference in 100 years, when the real agenda
is global socialism and to eliminate human civilization?


You need help.



When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards....

D

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested and
recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear power,
having carefully avoided defending your errors about climate change
you shift the topic. No surprise. But the content is actually
much the same, accusing your perceived opposition of bad faith and
repeating chants you like the sound of that you don't quite
understand. No surprise. Either your courage or your knowledge is
insufficient to carry on a responsive conversation, which is it?

David

So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions
of "Man Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".

On the contrary I care little for faith. I care much for evidence
and reasoning, you should give it a try. Let me start you off, here
is your post:

quote
Has nothing to do with the fact that government FUNDED weather
organizations were lying with their data, we may actually be
entering a period of global cooling, and the climate has been
changing for billions of years!

In fact there were periods in Europe when thet couldn't even grow
crops and were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions!
unquote

The next part is where you respond and present your evidence for
these claims that you say show climate change is a fraud. You need
to establish both the truth AND the relevance of these statements to
your position:

1 - weather organisations were lying with their data
2 - we may be entering a period of global cooling
3 - climate has been changing for billions of years
4 - there were periods in Europe when they couldn't even grow crops
and were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions

Take them one by one, show us your understanding. Or you could
disappear again.

David


NOTHING anyone could say would convince Progressive Socialists who
have the agenda of collapsing and globalizing the United States into
global socialism.


Where are these people you refer to? What has that got to do with me?
You know nothing about me or my politics, not that it is relevant, other
than I have asked you to make your case. Yet once again you retreat
tossing nothing but bluster behind you.

AND the alleged "scientists" running the "Man Made
Global Warming" smoke & mirrors show, get their incomes from huge
government grants, and are in many cases employed by these
Progressive Socialist governments. So yes, it is a religion of blind
faith state worship to people like you, and nothing that anyone could
say will convince you, because you refuse to see.


It is clearly impossible for me to see what you haven't yet presented.
You have had several opportunities to fix this and dodged and weaved
every time. You made four statements and cannot support one of them.
When it's time to step up and take your swing you are still hiding in
the weeds calling out school-yard insults.

Unless you are prepared to engage with the issue I have nothing more to
say.

David


http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybel...eir-own-words-
climate-alarmists-debunk-their-science/

http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php

http://www.globalclimatescam.com/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01...tortion-for-a-
global-warming-scam/

http://planet3.org/2013/04/01/overze...xposes-global-
warming-scam/

I could go on and on, of just Google: Global Warming scam

but suspect that you guys are just Marxists who like to heckle anyone who
disagrees with your state worshipping religion.



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Jane Galt wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote :

Jane Galt wrote:

Just get the environazis out of the way.

So you are back to hurl more slogans and insults having rested
and recovered for four months. Now you are on about nuclear
power, having carefully avoided defending your errors about
climate change you shift the topic. No surprise. But the
content is actually much the same, accusing your perceived
opposition of bad faith and repeating chants you like the sound
of that you don't quite understand. No surprise. Either your
courage or your knowledge is insufficient to carry on a
responsive conversation, which is it?

David

So harsh on someone who doesn't have blind faith in your religions
of "Man Made Global Warming" and "No Nukes".

On the contrary I care little for faith. I care much for evidence
and reasoning, you should give it a try. Let me start you off,
here is your post:

quote
Has nothing to do with the fact that government FUNDED weather
organizations were lying with their data, we may actually be
entering a period of global cooling, and the climate has been
changing for billions of years!

In fact there were periods in Europe when thet couldn't even grow
crops and were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions!
unquote

The next part is where you respond and present your evidence for
these claims that you say show climate change is a fraud. You need
to establish both the truth AND the relevance of these statements
to your position:

1 - weather organisations were lying with their data
2 - we may be entering a period of global cooling
3 - climate has been changing for billions of years
4 - there were periods in Europe when they couldn't even grow crops
and were all starving, BEFORE modern carbon emissions

Take them one by one, show us your understanding. Or you could
disappear again.

David


NOTHING anyone could say would convince Progressive Socialists who
have the agenda of collapsing and globalizing the United States into
global socialism.


Where are these people you refer to? What has that got to do with
me? You know nothing about me or my politics, not that it is
relevant, other than I have asked you to make your case. Yet once
again you retreat tossing nothing but bluster behind you.

AND the alleged "scientists" running the "Man Made
Global Warming" smoke & mirrors show, get their incomes from huge
government grants, and are in many cases employed by these
Progressive Socialist governments. So yes, it is a religion of blind
faith state worship to people like you, and nothing that anyone
could say will convince you, because you refuse to see.


It is clearly impossible for me to see what you haven't yet
presented. You have had several opportunities to fix this and dodged
and weaved every time. You made four statements and cannot support
one of them. When it's time to step up and take your swing you are
still hiding in the weeds calling out school-yard insults.

Unless you are prepared to engage with the issue I have nothing more
to say.

David


http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybel...eir-own-words-
climate-alarmists-debunk-their-science/

http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php

http://www.globalclimatescam.com/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01...tortion-for-a-
global-warming-scam/

http://planet3.org/2013/04/01/overze...xposes-global-
warming-scam/

I could go on and on, of just Google: Global Warming scam

but suspect that you guys are just Marxists who like to heckle anyone
who disagrees with your state worshipping religion.


I didn't ask for you to post links to a whole new swag of waffle, I asked
you to think, to engage, to support the specifics of your claims. Instead
here we go (as I predicted months ago) where you refuse to focus on anything
in particular but want me to play whackamole. I ain't playin'.

Take just one of your claims:

"climate has been changing for billions of years"

How does that show that anthropogenic climate change is not happening?

You could have answered this twenty times over with all the words you have
typed. Instead you can't do it. You don't understand a tenth of the
propaganda you spout or post links to. But don't let me interfere, the more
you dodge the more you prove how ignorant and mislead you are.

D




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