In article ,
June Hughes writes:
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| Um. TB worries me more than tetanus.

Neither are very likely in immunised people, but I agree that TB is
much more worrisome for non-immunised people.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Sacha" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

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Snap! I have 2 Jack Russells and a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel
..

I say it's the sublime to the rididulous - the sublime breed
varies
given the circumstances - sometimes it's the JRs and sometimes the
King Chuck.

One of my daughters has a KC bitch - sweet little dog but she can
certainly
stand her ground with 'the boys'!

For some reason, that comment made me think of how the girls can stand
there ground with the boys here too.

Our JRs are called Russell & Bromley and they're litter brothers.

I like those names! (And I do know that firm. We named out first
litter brothers in a similar way - they were Bert and Ernie - Bertie
was Betrand Russsell Jack Russell and Ernie was Ernie Dingo Jack
Russell - Ernie Dingo being a lovele Aboriginal man who is an actor.
People always though they were named after the Muppets. Ernie
unfortunately died from snakebite but he got 4 or 5 before that last
one got him)

Russell
is the biggest wuss in terms of overall timidity about things and
people new
and strange but he's also the one that starts most, if not all, of
the
fights.

Sound a bit like Bert, but he will take a lot before he finally goes
for Max.

The only time Oscar (the dachie) growls at the others is if they
threaten his food and that isn't often an option as he could easily
substitute for a hoover at mealtimes!

Our Cav is like that. He dances like a circus dog when he thinks
there is some leftovers that he'll get to eat. Best dishlicker in the
business. His bowl looks like it's just come from the cupboard and
been sanitised clean and the other dog's bowls are too once he's done
his duty and done the housework on them - The JRs wander off leaving
all sorts fo tidbits but 2 seconds of the dishlicker and they look
pristine again.

All this sounds very familiar, too. Our two go rabbiting together
and
always make me think of small boys who have a tear in their shorts
and their
socks falling down and their shirt collars all over the place!
They're very
popular here if they catch a rabbit or three, because rabbits and
young
plants are not a good combination.

Sounds familair to me and that description is spot on! The smiley
faces when they come back looking fat and dirty!
snip
Thanks so much. Slowly mending and I hope the overnight
hospital
stay is
going to do the trick.

I hope it does too. But there is also another dimension to this.
I
always think an overnight stay in hospital is good for a man in
any
circumstances. It knocks them off thier perch a bit and they stop
acting like Jack Russells for a short while (at least it's done so
with my husband who has recently retired and is still recovering
from
the luxury of having 2,000 staff and thinks that I'll put up with
his
attempts at managerial antics) ;-P

Oh that isn't Ray. He's very quiet and unassuming in his way but at
the
same time has quite a commanding presence. It's hard to explain but
his
perch is secure. ;-)

Snap! You could be describing my husband.

Just wait till he gets home and then observe, keeping in mind what I
said about JRs. It's a chastening experieince I found for a fit and
healthy and very independent and self sufficent man to suddenly find
himself in a strange place and being bossed by people who know better
than him. My man finally seemed to recognise that he did have some
vulnerabilities - about time.

"Sacha" wrote in message

I did all the hot water and sloshing Dettol stuff around for Ray but
because
the dog's tooth caught the bone, I think the infection was probably
already
in there within seconds.

Puncture wounds are the most effective way of getting germs deep into
the body. Every time I hear the word "tetanus", I think of rusty
nails as was always on posters in my youth as being the effective
delivery mechanism for tetanus infection - in deep, and dirty.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:34:32 +1100, Farm1 wrote:

I got the red tracking in my leg just before christmas a year or
two
back, didn't think much of it at first but ended up in hospital
for
four days

This comment has made me curious. I had drummed into me from
childhood on, that a red stripe moving out from a skin puncture
was
REALLY serious and not to be ignored

The tender faint red lines where about 6" long at the top of my leg
no
where near any skin punctures.

Sorry, I was sloppy in what I wrote. If I'd taken due care, I'd ahve
written "red stripe after having had a skin puncture"

Apart from the tenderness they looked more
like a broad gentle scratch. They also faded within my normal "if it
doesn't show signs of improvement in 24hrs I'll start to worry"
window.

I think most use the 24 hour measure stick, but it does surprise me
that you and also Sacha don't seem to have come across the red stripe
warning before.

I'd simply not come across or heard about this inflamation of the
lymph
system before and what it meant in terms if infection elsewhere.

I'm well aware of infection actually at wound sites and will open up
infected wounds to remove any puss (even if not visible), clean, and
make
sure there is good flow of blood.

:-)) Nothing like a good blood letting to clean up a wound. It's the
deeper skin puncture I worry about. If it bleeds, I figure it'll
usually be OK.

"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message

That could be so I guess, but I would have thought that the
warnings
about how to identify the spread of an infection would be a
universal
thing?????????

I would have no idea how to identify an infection!

I'm sure you do, otherwise how would you know it's time to go to
either see a Doc or go to the hospital.

"La Puce" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 8 Feb, 21:32, "Space" wrote:

it all depends on whether or not Ray injured himself whilst working with
soil, or if if he had open sores.
dog bites are relevant to this scenario.
just because he works with soil does not mean he is at risk. it would
depend upon inury or prior injury whilst gardening.

Hello Space. Sure - it's just that I thought it was funny, that's all.
I cannot work anywhere without proving I've got my jabs, my steel toe
boots, my criminal record check when with kids, etc. The chap's
holding a plant nurserie and didn't have a tetanus jab - it's just
strange. I was talking about this with my friend who's a tree surgeon,
even he has checks when he's being monitored when taking on
youngsters. I think it's best if I don't give my opinion - or best not
give my opinion when 'some' people are invovled. But I want to thank
you for a previous post you sent once saying you quite liked my posts.
That was pretty cool ;o)


Does Ray own the nursey? I don't know. if he is, he is not placing his
employees at risk. he is only placing himself at risk. if he is not his
employees have a duty of care.

I saw your post as a dig at sacha, you did post your opinion. maybe a
clouded opinion because "others" were invlolved.

don't get me wrong - i am a completley neutral party to all events and will
remain that way.

maybe it is best you disengage from some conversations.

anyway, how's snowy Manchester?

In message , Sacha
writes
Just a word of warning to those who haven't had a tetanus jab lately.
Please keep up to date! Those working with sharp implements and/or delving
into the soil need them. My husband tried to separate two of our dogs
having a fight last Friday and got bitten on his left hand. He absolutely
refused to go to the doctor, doing his tough ex-Para 'thing' (!)
Consequently, on Sunday morning he was in so much pain and his hand so
swollen, with the pain travelling up his arm, that he had to go to our local
hospital for a tetanus jab and has been put on hefty antibiotics. We're
going to the doctor this morning for a check up because while it has
improved, his hand is still very swollen and poisoned and he can't use it at
all. On top of this, he has been in bed, feeling pretty poorly and sleeping
a lot, since last Sunday. This is extremely unlike him! So, if you fall
into any 'at risk' category, please visit your doctor!

Check first. I asked my GP for a booster shot a few months ago and was
told that they no longer recommended them, the normal three-jab course
is now reckoned to give lifetime protection.



--
Bernard Peek
back in search of cognoscenti

June Hughes typed

Alan is an old man, Helen. No. He isn't stupid but give him a chance,
please.

Will do, sorry!

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

June Hughes typed

Alan is an old man, Helen. No. He isn't stupid but give him a chance,
please.


How old is 'old'?

Mike

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In message , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes
June Hughes typed

Alan is an old man, Helen. No. He isn't stupid but give him a chance,
please.

Will do, sorry!

No probs.
--
June Hughes

In message , 'Mike'
writes

June Hughes typed

Alan is an old man, Helen. No. He isn't stupid but give him a chance,
please.


How old is 'old'?

Mike

Ask Alan.
--
June Hughes

"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message
...
"Dave Poole" typed


On Feb 9, 5:33 pm, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:
"Alan Holmes" typed

I would have no idea how to identify an infection!

Oh yes you would!
Infected wounds HURT, SWELL, GO RED & HOT and the affected part is
close to USELESS.

Oh here we go, net-shouting .... I've a strange feeling of deja-vu

I'm sure that lot would make you seek help (you might not know it's an
infection but you would know something is WRONG!)
or are you REALLY STUPID?

Hmm. I think you'd better go and cool-off lady, your tone is
unnecessarily offensive and arrogant. Stop trying to stir it.



Most of my posts have been informative and inoffensive.

I put the cardinal features of infection in upper case to highlight
them, not to shout.

When someone plays the fool, my patience can wear a bit thin, but the
poster so playing seems to have taken this with better humour than some
people...

I'm happy with your posts.

Alan


--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

"June Hughes" wrote in message
...
In message , Helen Deborah Vecht
writes
"Alan Holmes" typed

I would have no idea how to identify an infection!

Oh yes you would!

Infected wounds HURT, SWELL, GO RED & HOT and the affected part is
close to USELESS.

I'm sure that lot would make you seek help (you might not know it's an
infection but you would know something is WRONG!)

or are you REALLY STUPID?

Alan is an old man, Helen. No. He isn't stupid but give him a chance,
please.

Thanks June, but how did you know I am OLD?

Alan


--
June Hughes

"June Hughes" wrote in message
...
In message , 'Mike'
writes

June Hughes typed

Alan is an old man, Helen. No. He isn't stupid but give him a chance,
please.


How old is 'old'?

Mike

Ask Alan.

Old!(:-)

Well past the first flush of youth!

But all the essencial bits are still working!(:-)

Alan

--
June Hughes

"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
...
"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message

That could be so I guess, but I would have thought that the
warnings
about how to identify the spread of an infection would be a
universal
thing?????????

I would have no idea how to identify an infection!

I'm sure you do, otherwise how would you know it's time to go to
either see a Doc or go to the hospital.

Just before I die?

Alan