I was weeding yesterday and came across a weed I had not seen before, so I
dug it up to find 2 halves of a peach or nectarine stone and the kernel of
this with a seedling growing from it.
I have put the seedling into a pot to grow out of curiosity.
This has certainly come sometime in the past from our compost bin.
If it can survive through our winters in the UK, can I expect it to bear
some fruit in the future do you think?
My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.
My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

PtePike

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PtePike wrote:
I was weeding yesterday and came across a weed I had not seen before, so I
dug it up to find 2 halves of a peach or nectarine stone and the kernel of
this with a seedling growing from it.
I have put the seedling into a pot to grow out of curiosity.
This has certainly come sometime in the past from our compost bin.
If it can survive through our winters in the UK, can I expect it to bear
some fruit in the future do you think?
My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.
My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

It may or it may not. Seedlings are very variable. I am growing
a peche de vigne (essentially, the peach equivalent of a bullace,
and probably close to the ones introduced into Europe by Neolithic
farmers). It has flowered well this year, but we shall see ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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PtePike wrote:
I was weeding yesterday and came across a weed I had not seen before,
so I dug it up to find 2 halves of a peach or nectarine stone and the
kernel of this with a seedling growing from it.
I have put the seedling into a pot to grow out of curiosity.
This has certainly come sometime in the past from our compost bin.
If it can survive through our winters in the UK, can I expect it to
bear some fruit in the future do you think?
My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.
My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

It may or it may not. Seedlings are very variable. I am growing
a peche de vigne (essentially, the peach equivalent of a bullace,
and probably close to the ones introduced into Europe by Neolithic
farmers). It has flowered well this year, but we shall see ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Thanks Nick for your input.
I am unclear though.
Did you grow this intentionally from seed?
If you did Why? if the outcome is uncertain.
Do you have a large garden to experiment?
Our garden is quite small but we will see what happens in the pot.
I bet you are as excited as I am but you are ahead a year than me.

PtePike

PtePike wrote:
My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.
My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

Fwiw, I grew 2 nectarine trees in my room at uni. They never got big
enough to flower (I had them about 3 years, they got to around 2 foot tall,
iirc), then they mysteriously died and I couldnt' rescue them.

Good luck, though. Let us know if you get them to flower!

"PtePike" wrote ...
I was weeding yesterday and came across a weed I had not seen before, so I
dug it up to find 2 halves of a peach or nectarine stone and the kernel of
this with a seedling growing from it.
I have put the seedling into a pot to grow out of curiosity.
This has certainly come sometime in the past from our compost bin.
If it can survive through our winters in the UK, can I expect it to bear
some fruit in the future do you think?
My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.
My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

When a child back in the middle ages our next door neighbour had a Peach
Tree that they had grown from a stone themselves. It fruited beautifully
every year, wonderfully large sweet fruit, until one year it overdid itself
and the weight of the fruit split the tree in half. Lesson is, when it's
mature prune the excess fruit if it goes mad.
--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK

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PtePike wrote:

Thanks Nick for your input.
I am unclear though.
Did you grow this intentionally from seed?

Yes.

If you did Why? if the outcome is uncertain.

Because we had some peach jam made from them that tasted of something.

Do you have a large garden to experiment?

Large enough. They are attractive trees, too.

Our garden is quite small but we will see what happens in the pot.
I bet you are as excited as I am but you are ahead a year than me.

Three, actually :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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PtePike wrote:

Thanks Nick for your input.
I am unclear though.
Did you grow this intentionally from seed?

Yes.

If you did Why? if the outcome is uncertain.

Because we had some peach jam made from them that tasted of something.

Do you have a large garden to experiment?

Large enough. They are attractive trees, too.

Our garden is quite small but we will see what happens in the pot.
I bet you are as excited as I am but you are ahead a year than me.

Three, actually :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick I am going to have to be patient if yours is three years.
If this tree is going to be attractive then I will keep it for a time of
flowering and see what happens.
3 years is a long patience but I think I will be around to see.
Dad says I am wasting my time God willing he will see it too.
My fingers are cross for both your and my trees.

PtePike

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PtePike wrote:
My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.
My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

Fwiw, I grew 2 nectarine trees in my room at uni. They never got big
enough to flower (I had them about 3 years, they got to around 2 foot
tall, iirc), then they mysteriously died and I couldnt' rescue them.

Good luck, though. Let us know if you get them to flower!

That was bad luck as they died and thankyou for good luck for mine.
I will most certainly let you know of them flowering but it depends how old
you are as it will take a few years to find out haha. that was joking.

I have bought cherry apple pear trees since we lived here but this one is
the one is I most interesting and the rest are on blossom.

thankyou
PtrPike

PtePike wrote:

I was weeding yesterday and came across a weed I had not seen before, so I
dug it up to find 2 halves of a peach or nectarine stone and the kernel of
this with a seedling growing from it.
I have put the seedling into a pot to grow out of curiosity.
This has certainly come sometime in the past from our compost bin.
If it can survive through our winters in the UK, can I expect it to bear
some fruit in the future do you think?

Yes. If it's a peach it could be as soon as its third summer. I planted
a peach stone and some apricots three years ago. The peach was in flower
this spring. Apricots flower a little later. (May)

I've never managed to get a nectarine stone to shoot.

My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.

We had a peach tree grown from a stone when I was an anklebiter, and
that (usually) fruited prolifically, and the fruits were as large as
shop-bought ones.

My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

You can expect it to grow into a rather bushy tree of around ten feet or
so. They fruit more reliably though, if grown and trained against a
south-facing wall.

But don't do what my ole man did - put it next to the soakaway for the
washing machine.

--
Rusty

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In article ,
PtePike wrote:
I was weeding yesterday and came across a weed I had not seen before, so I
dug it up to find 2 halves of a peach or nectarine stone and the kernel of
this with a seedling growing from it.
I have put the seedling into a pot to grow out of curiosity.
This has certainly come sometime in the past from our compost bin.
If it can survive through our winters in the UK, can I expect it to bear
some fruit in the future do you think?
My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.
My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

It may or it may not. Seedlings are very variable. I am growing
a peche de vigne (essentially, the peach equivalent of a bullace,
and probably close to the ones introduced into Europe by Neolithic
farmers). It has flowered well this year, but we shall see ....

May I book a stone or two please? (Assuming they do fruit, of course.)

--
Rusty

PtePike wrote:

Nick I am going to have to be patient if yours is three years.

I have a lemon tree grown from a pip (well, sevral, actually). I don't
expect it to flower for another twenty-five to thirty years.

Unless I do a spot of grafting...

If this tree is going to be attractive then I will keep it for a time of
flowering and see what happens.

Yes - a mass of pink blossom in April - unfortunately, it doesn't last
long, but the tree itself is a looker.

3 years is a long patience but I think I will be around to see.

When you get to my age you blink - and three years has flashed by. When
you plant it out, give it lots of bones in the bottom of the hole and
mix bonemeal, well-rotted manure or compost, and woollens in the soil.
Your barber might give you sweepings to use too.

All these release nutrients slowly, and should nourish your tree for years.

After three yearsyou can start adding potash to the soil - thin twigs,
especially green ones produce the most potash when burnt, oh, and
Jerusalem artichoke or sunflower stems.

Peaches (well, all stone fruit) need a little lime or old plaster.

Dad says I am wasting my time God willing he will see it too.

Give him half a pint of beer in a pint glass. I bet he says it's half empty.

--
Rusty

Bob Hobden wrote:


"PtePike" wrote ...
I was weeding yesterday and came across a weed I had not seen before,
so I
dug it up to find 2 halves of a peach or nectarine stone and the
kernel of
this with a seedling growing from it.
I have put the seedling into a pot to grow out of curiosity.
This has certainly come sometime in the past from our compost bin.
If it can survive through our winters in the UK, can I expect it to bear
some fruit in the future do you think?
My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.
My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

When a child back in the middle ages our next door neighbour had a Peach
Tree that they had grown from a stone themselves. It fruited beautifully
every year, wonderfully large sweet fruit, until one year it overdid
itself and the weight of the fruit split the tree in half. Lesson is,
when it's mature prune the excess fruit if it goes mad.

Ore stake the branches.

--
Rusty

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Rusty Hinge wrote:
wrote:
In article ,
PtePike wrote:
I was weeding yesterday and came across a weed I had not seen before, so I
dug it up to find 2 halves of a peach or nectarine stone and the kernel of
this with a seedling growing from it.
I have put the seedling into a pot to grow out of curiosity.
This has certainly come sometime in the past from our compost bin.
If it can survive through our winters in the UK, can I expect it to bear
some fruit in the future do you think?
My dad says no because it may need grafting, and on a good rootstock.
My arguement is that before man took over how did they grow.
Your thoughts will be welcome, I find this very exciting.

It may or it may not. Seedlings are very variable. I am growing
a peche de vigne (essentially, the peach equivalent of a bullace,
and probably close to the ones introduced into Europe by Neolithic
farmers). It has flowered well this year, but we shall see ....

May I book a stone or two please? (Assuming they do fruit, of course.)

Certainly.

Nick.

Rusty Hinge wrote:
I've never managed to get a nectarine stone to shoot.

The ones I had weren't deliberate - I went for a day trip to Llandudno and
bought a nectarine to eat at lunch, and when I bit into it the stone was
broken and had 2 already sprouting seeds in it.

I figured they /wanted/ to grow, so who was I to stop them?

Give him half a pint of beer in a pint glass. I bet he says it's half
empty.


HaHa, yes.

PtePike