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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:37:33 GMT, Baz wrote:
"'Mike'" wrote in news "Baz" wrote in message ... wrote in : 'Mike' wrote: I do not agree that any "putting down" in this group is based on geographical location. Speaking as a fellow northerner that is (:-) No, I have found the putting down is on where you are on the Social Ladder Interesting. Maybe someone can post a venn diagram of which social groups people in the ng are suspected of being in. (and then everyone can beware the knock on the door!) What is a venn diagram? Baz and to have to ask 'that' question, ............................. well ;-} Mike Yes, and we were getting along so well in English too. Baz Good to see you back after your absence Baz. To clear up all the confusion, I offer the following copy and paste from Wikipedia: "Venn diagrams or set diagrams are diagrams that show all hypothetically possible logical relations between a finite collection of sets (aggregation of things). Venn diagrams were conceived around 1880 by John Venn. They are used to teach elementary set theory, as well as illustrate simple set relationships in probability, logic, statistics, linguistics and computer science (see logical connectives)." I think that explains things perfectly and simply and should serve to end all further argument. (I think Vicky was being tongue in cheek when she posted). I will now wait for someone to explain the explanation to me (and no doubt someone else will be able to explain the explanation of the explanation). Meanwhile, I'm going off-toipic to calculate how many shopping days are left until Christmas. Cheers Jake |
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
"floydie-pink" wrote in message ... Hi i do indeed have a coal shed, suppose i could be seen as common, have terrible spelling (and my spell check has gone somewere i dont know how to get it back????). And i am a she. Hahaha Am i mad enough to join the madness?? -- floydie-pink The "pink" is surely a clue but neither I nor anyone else picked it up :-) Bill |
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
"Baz" wrote in message ... wrote in : 'Mike' wrote: I do not agree that any "putting down" in this group is based on geographical location. Speaking as a fellow northerner that is (:-) No, I have found the putting down is on where you are on the Social Ladder Interesting. Maybe someone can post a venn diagram of which social groups people in the ng are suspected of being in. (and then everyone can beware the knock on the door!) What is a venn diagram? Baz Those of us of a certain age wold not have come across these mystical designs. But then I remember "times tables" :-) Bill |
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:03:05 -0000, "Bill Grey"
wrote: "floydie-pink" wrote in message ... Hi i do indeed have a coal shed, suppose i could be seen as common, have terrible spelling (and my spell check has gone somewere i dont know how to get it back????). And i am a she. Hahaha Am i mad enough to join the madness?? -- floydie-pink The "pink" is surely a clue but neither I nor anyone else picked it up :-) Bill Some of us merely assumed a fellow Pink Floyd enthusiast and couldn't justify assuming anything more. These days you have to be careful! Before I hit a (brick) wall I'm off to the Dark Side ..... Jake |
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
In message , Baz
writes wrote in : 'Mike' wrote: I do not agree that any "putting down" in this group is based on geographical location. Speaking as a fellow northerner that is (:-) No, I have found the putting down is on where you are on the Social Ladder Interesting. Maybe someone can post a venn diagram of which social groups people in the ng are suspected of being in. (and then everyone can beware the knock on the door!) What is a venn diagram? Those diagrams, usually of overlapping circles, to illustrate which/who/what is a member of particular sets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venn_diagram -- Chris French |
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
On Jan 24, 9:20*pm, Jake wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:03:05 -0000, "Bill Grey" wrote: "floydie-pink" wrote in message ... Hi i do indeed have a coal shed, suppose i could be seen as common, have terrible spelling (and my spell check has gone somewere i dont know how to get it back????). And i am a she. Hahaha Am i mad enough to join the madness?? -- floydie-pink The "pink" is surely a clue but neither I nor anyone else picked it up :-) Bill Some of us merely assumed a fellow Pink Floyd enthusiast and couldn't justify assuming anything more. These days you have to be careful! Before I hit a (brick) wall I'm off to the Dark Side ..... Jake- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Last time I came accross this much Bull Shit it was spread over a veg patch waiting to be dug in. |
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
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Bill Grey wrote: "Baz" wrote in message .. . What is a venn diagram? Those of us of a certain age wold not have come across these mystical designs. But then I remember "times tables" :-) Well, yes. But it depends more on your level of education than your age - after all, I have my doubts that you completed your schooling before 1880 :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Atleast im not the only crazed one out there, Pink Floyd that it is .
Think of the diagram in the colour chart each of the 3 colours overlap in the center, the center is the colour they all make and so the thing they all have in comon is they are needed to make sed colour. Add a 4th colour and you are left with a center colour and 3 outa colours that putting 2 of the 4 colours together will make. (Have i confused anyone yet? not as dumb as i seam) |
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
Jake wrote:
"Venn diagrams or set diagrams are diagrams that show all hypothetically possible logical relations between a finite collection of sets (aggregation of things). Venn diagrams were conceived around 1880 by John Venn. They are used to teach elementary set theory, as well as illustrate simple set relationships in probability, logic, statistics, linguistics and computer science (see logical connectives)." I think that explains things perfectly and simply and should serve to end all further argument. (I think Vicky was being tongue in cheek when she posted). :-) I will now wait for someone to explain the explanation to me (and no doubt someone else will be able to explain the explanation of the explanation). It's one of those diagrams that looks like someone has put a bunch of coffee mugs down on a sheet of paper, and all the people go in the circles. So the coffee stain is 'people who are posh' and the tea stain is 'people who own chickens' and the bit where the tea and coffee stains overlap is the posh people who own chickens. And people outside both drink stains are people who aren't posh and don't have chickens. Then you can put a beer bottle down to make another circle that is 'people who microwave their pork pies' and it can overlap the other 2 circles, and you need to move all the people to their correct position again. It's the sort of thing you do at school cos it's sort of fun, but if you need to use it outside of school you're probably in the wrong job! |
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
Bill Grey wrote:
But then I remember "times tables" :-) My 7 year old came home with homework last week where he had to learn his 2 times table. Which was interesting, because although he knew the maths and the numbers, he had no concept of the whole "no twos are zero, one two is two, etc" phrasing/chanting of it. -- |
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2011-01-25 08:57:46 +0000, said: Bill Grey wrote: But then I remember "times tables" :-) My 7 year old came home with homework last week where he had to learn his 2 times table. Which was interesting, because although he knew the maths and the numbers, he had no concept of the whole "no twos are zero, one two is two, etc" phrasing/chanting of it. When I was about 4 or 5 I went to a small school where we used to chant our tables first lesson every morning. I know it's considered the 'wrong way' now (or is it?) but that method certainly made the tables stick in the mind. To this day, I recall my tables easily. -- Sacha I went to a Private School and they were very hot on the 3 x 'R's from a very early age. Later, and as I had no desire to go into the Hotel business like my parents, I went for an interview for an Apprenticeship as a Marine Electrical Engineer During the interview I was asked 'What are your Maths like?' 'Good I suppose', 'What are 7 x 8's?' and before he had finished I flashed '56'. I always remember that because I surprised myself as to just how fast I was able to recall it!!!! Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive .................................... |
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I can never resist the temptation to try to explain maths!
Draw a circle to represent spring flowers (snowdrops, daffodils, winter flowering cherry, violets etc). Draw another circle, overlapping the first, to represent bulbs. The area which is inside both circles will contain this like snowdrops and daffodils - spring flowering bulbs. The rest of the second circle will have bulbs like leucojum which don't flower in the spring. The rest of the first circle will have violets and other spring flowers which aren't bulbs. The outside will have flowers which are neither spring flowering nor bulbs. Or you could draw two circles, one inside the other, to represent "All cacti are succulents, but not all succulents are cacti". They're useful to help visualise more complicated relationships than I've described, and usually with more than two circles needed. They were university stuff wen I was taught maths, but my children did them in primary school.
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Hi im new :-) and fairly new to gardening :-S
In article ,
Bill Grey wrote: What is a venn diagram? Those of us of a certain age wold not have come across these mystical designs. But then I remember "times tables" :-) Well, yes. But it depends more on your level of education than your age - after all, I have my doubts that you completed your schooling before 1880 :-) It somtimes feels like that :-) I left Grammar School in 1952 and there had been no mention of Venn diagrams at that time. Nor when I left a (dire) public school in 1965. However, I do have a degree in mathematics .... On the matter of multiplication tables, I didn't learn mine until I was well into my teens, and 7x8 was always my bugbear - however, I could work out the answer fast enough that the teachers never realised, so I never got punished for it (sic). 7x8 = 2 x 7x4 or 7x8 = 7x7 + 7. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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I referred to her as "she" in my post , then when the gender discussion started, I wondered why I'd been so sure she was a she. I'd like to say I picked up clues from her writing style, but I think I probably just picked up the "pink"
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