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I was both heartened and disheartened this morning when Ray read a
piece out of the DT to me. Apparently, it is officially acknowledged (not just us moaning to each other!) that while they look great and the vision's wonderful, flat-screen tvs produce really terrible sound. A lot of people have resorted to buying a soundbar to improve the clarity. I'm relieved it's not just us, to be honest. Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. So it's not just the deaf and ageing! Eh? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On 14/02/2013 16:59, Sacha wrote:
I was both heartened and disheartened this morning when Ray read a piece out of the DT to me. Apparently, it is officially acknowledged (not just us moaning to each other!) that while they look great and the vision's wonderful, flat-screen tvs produce really terrible sound. A lot of people have resorted to buying a soundbar to improve the clarity. I'm relieved it's not just us, to be honest. Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. So it's not just the deaf and ageing! Eh? Nature of the beast. No room for speakers. Take the opportunity to litter the place up with surround sound :-) |
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 Sacha wrote:
I was both heartened and disheartened this morning when Ray read a piece out of the DT to me. Apparently, it is officially acknowledged (not just us moaning to each other!) that while they look great and the vision's wonderful, flat-screen tvs produce really terrible sound. A lot of people have resorted to buying a soundbar to improve the clarity. I'm relieved it's not just us, to be honest. Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. So it's not just the deaf and ageing! Eh? A week ago my ten-year-old set stopped working and so I had to buy a new one. I had done a lot of homework on what the strengths and weaknesses of the modern sets were and I was particularly worried by what I'd read about the poor sound quality. I don't hear sibilants too well and when I guess what has been said it can get quite hilarious as well as frustrating - fortunately my wife is often there to "translate" for me. I was of the generation that indulged in hi-fi back in the '60s (in fact I ran, part-time, a semi-professional sound recording company back in the '60s and 70s) and, with my old set, I could plug it in to my current hi-fi system to improve the sound, but one program (University Challenge) I found always had distorted sound, presumably because it was recorded with poor sound equipment in the first place. Well, I wasn't *quite* ready to go out and buy a new set but was now in a position where I had to. After doing a lot more research I finally decided on a Samsung Smart TV. I thought that, if the sound is poor, I can still plug it into the hi-fi. When it arrived, imagine my disappointment when I found it wasn't possible to do that. Yes, there was a sound output but it was digital and my hi-fi is too old to accept that! However, all's well that ends well because the sound from the new Samsung is superb and I don't need a separate set of speakers. It's even better than my old Sony CRT set. The picture's pretty good, too, especially in HD. David -- David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... I was both heartened and disheartened this morning when Ray read a piece out of the DT to me. Apparently, it is officially acknowledged (not just us moaning to each other!) that while they look great and the vision's wonderful, flat-screen tvs produce really terrible sound. A lot of people have resorted to buying a soundbar to improve the clarity. I'm relieved it's not just us, to be honest. Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. So it's not just the deaf and ageing! Eh? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk Uh! you've think you've got problems? I have a cataract on one eye and I'm paying for Sky+HD !! Bill |
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"David Rance" wrote ...
Sacha wrote: I was both heartened and disheartened this morning when Ray read a piece out of the DT to me. Apparently, it is officially acknowledged (not just us moaning to each other!) that while they look great and the vision's wonderful, flat-screen tvs produce really terrible sound. A lot of people have resorted to buying a soundbar to improve the clarity. I'm relieved it's not just us, to be honest. Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. So it's not just the deaf and ageing! Eh? A week ago my ten-year-old set stopped working and so I had to buy a new one. I had done a lot of homework on what the strengths and weaknesses of the modern sets were and I was particularly worried by what I'd read about the poor sound quality. I don't hear sibilants too well and when I guess what has been said it can get quite hilarious as well as frustrating - fortunately my wife is often there to "translate" for me. I was of the generation that indulged in hi-fi back in the '60s (in fact I ran, part-time, a semi-professional sound recording company back in the '60s and 70s) and, with my old set, I could plug it in to my current hi-fi system to improve the sound, but one program (University Challenge) I found always had distorted sound, presumably because it was recorded with poor sound equipment in the first place. Well, I wasn't *quite* ready to go out and buy a new set but was now in a position where I had to. After doing a lot more research I finally decided on a Samsung Smart TV. I thought that, if the sound is poor, I can still plug it into the hi-fi. When it arrived, imagine my disappointment when I found it wasn't possible to do that. Yes, there was a sound output but it was digital and my hi-fi is too old to accept that! However, all's well that ends well because the sound from the new Samsung is superb and I don't need a separate set of speakers. It's even better than my old Sony CRT set. The picture's pretty good, too, especially in HD. If you use a set top box for HD, something like my Freesat Humax 1TB recorder, they have normal sound outputs on them. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 Bob Hobden wrote:
"David Rance" wrote ... .. .. .. .. Well, I wasn't *quite* ready to go out and buy a new set but was now in a position where I had to. After doing a lot more research I finally decided on a Samsung Smart TV. I thought that, if the sound is poor, I can still plug it into the hi-fi. When it arrived, imagine my disappointment when I found it wasn't possible to do that. Yes, there was a sound output but it was digital and my hi-fi is too old to accept that! However, all's well that ends well because the sound from the new Samsung is superb and I don't need a separate set of speakers. It's even better than my old Sony CRT set. The picture's pretty good, too, especially in HD. If you use a set top box for HD, something like my Freesat Humax 1TB recorder, they have normal sound outputs on them. I have used a set-top box since digital transmissions started. It wouldn't be a good idea to use it in conjunction with the new Samsung because the decoded signal becomes available at different rates and there would be syncing problems. Anyway, as I said above, I don't need to. The sound on the Samsung is excellent. David -- David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... I was both heartened and disheartened this morning when Ray read a piece out of the DT to me. Apparently, it is officially acknowledged (not just us moaning to each other!) that while they look great and the vision's wonderful, flat-screen tvs produce really terrible sound. A lot of people have resorted to buying a soundbar to improve the clarity. I'm relieved it's not just us, to be honest. Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. So it's not just the deaf and ageing! Eh? -- Dunno. I still have a fat one and it's perfect ;-) Tina |
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Sacha wrote:
Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. There's a new problem (a family friend is in the audio production business in New York City, U.S.): With all the digital technology about, it's not unusual for sound channels to not be properly synchronized, giving rise to new and exciting forms of distortion, not to mention balance problems. I've noticed background sound louder than the dialog, and I don't think it's _entirely_ my aging ears! Call the Midwife is seen here too, and we're now eagerly awaiting the new season! -- Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G |
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On 2013-02-14 21:18:17 +0000, Christina Websell said:
"Sacha" wrote in message ... I was both heartened and disheartened this morning when Ray read a piece out of the DT to me. Apparently, it is officially acknowledged (not just us moaning to each other!) that while they look great and the vision's wonderful, flat-screen tvs produce really terrible sound. A lot of people have resorted to buying a soundbar to improve the clarity. I'm relieved it's not just us, to be honest. Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. So it's not just the deaf and ageing! Eh? -- Dunno. I still have a fat one and it's perfect ;-) Tina We'd still have ours if it hadn't developed a broad green streak down one side which made stage left actors look as if they came from Mars. It was getting on for 20 years old, so it had done pretty well. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:08:59 +0000, David Rance
wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 Bob Hobden wrote: "David Rance" wrote ... . . . . Well, I wasn't *quite* ready to go out and buy a new set but was now in a position where I had to. After doing a lot more research I finally decided on a Samsung Smart TV. I thought that, if the sound is poor, I can still plug it into the hi-fi. When it arrived, imagine my disappointment when I found it wasn't possible to do that. Yes, there was a sound output but it was digital and my hi-fi is too old to accept that! However, all's well that ends well because the sound from the new Samsung is superb and I don't need a separate set of speakers. It's even better than my old Sony CRT set. The picture's pretty good, too, especially in HD. If you use a set top box for HD, something like my Freesat Humax 1TB recorder, they have normal sound outputs on them. I have used a set-top box since digital transmissions started. It wouldn't be a good idea to use it in conjunction with the new Samsung because the decoded signal becomes available at different rates and there would be syncing problems. Anyway, as I said above, I don't need to. The sound on the Samsung is excellent. David We had a Sony Bravia in the lounge. Sound OK but the picture was crap. We relocated it to the breakfast room (OK for breakfast TV) and bought an LG plasma TV. About 3 months later we recovered a load of floor space, and cut down on dusting, by boxing up and flogging the hi-fi separates collection. As CDs have replaced vinyl (which replaced 78s) and the sound has deteriorated as a result, we find that the speakers on the telly (OK it's a biggie so we have separation) produce just as good a sound as the old bulky hi-fi setup did. It's a case of do your research properly. Our TV not only has different video modes but also different audio ones. All touch of the button stuff so we can swap easily from film soundtrack to orchestral CD. The BluRay player doubles up as a CD player quite happily. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes it's raining and sometimes it's not. |
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writes On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:45:33 -0000, "Bill Grey" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... I was both heartened and disheartened this morning when Ray read a piece out of the DT to me. Apparently, it is officially acknowledged (not just us moaning to each other!) that while they look great and the vision's wonderful, flat-screen tvs produce really terrible sound. A lot of people have resorted to buying a soundbar to improve the clarity. I'm relieved it's not just us, to be honest. Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. So it's not just the deaf and ageing! Eh? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk Uh! you've think you've got problems? I have a cataract on one eye and I'm paying for Sky+HD !! You can have the cataract problem fixed. You can cancel the HD part of Sky+. (We did, now that our eyes can't tell the difference.) -- Simon 12) The Second Rule of Expectations An EXPECTATION is a Premeditated resentment. |
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On 2013-02-14 18:45:33 +0000, Bill Grey said:
"Sacha" wrote in message ... I was both heartened and disheartened this morning when Ray read a piece out of the DT to me. Apparently, it is officially acknowledged (not just us moaning to each other!) that while they look great and the vision's wonderful, flat-screen tvs produce really terrible sound. A lot of people have resorted to buying a soundbar to improve the clarity. I'm relieved it's not just us, to be honest. Watching Call The Midwife the other night, we lost several seconds of dialogue because of the blasted music and the blurred dialogue. So it's not just the deaf and ageing! Eh? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk Uh! you've think you've got problems? I have a cataract on one eye and I'm paying for Sky+HD !! Bill Oh dear! Can the cataract be dealt with? Friends of ours have had them done and were astonished at the success. I hope something can be done about yours, too. We have the minimal Sky account. But when someone makes a tv that cuts out music soundtrack during speech, I hope someone will tell us! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:55:24 +0000, Bob Hobden wrote:
If you use a set top box for HD, something like my Freesat Humax 1TB recorder, they have normal sound outputs on them. Yes we have a Humax too, although sadly with a smaller disk. It plugs directly into the stereo system. -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:04:34 +0100, Martin wrote:
On 15 Feb 2013 11:12:25 GMT, Emery Davis wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:55:24 +0000, Bob Hobden wrote: If you use a set top box for HD, something like my Freesat Humax 1TB recorder, they have normal sound outputs on them. Yes we have a Humax too, although sadly with a smaller disk. but if it is the same model that I have, you can connect an external disk dive to it. I noticed that the 1TB model costs £75 more than the 500GB model that I bought 6 months ago. The difference in price is more than enough to buy a 1TB external disk drive. Yes, I have an external drive attached to it. But the copy speed is sooooo slooooow that it's very difficult to use. I've had my daughter copy all her star treks, Dr whos and sitcoms, but to copy a single HD Who takes around 10 minutes. I have no idea why the USB should be so slow, maybe a really ancient linux distribution. I don't think I've succeeded in getting it to record to the external drive, have you? -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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Martin wrote in
: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:59:11 +0000, The Original Jake wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:08:59 +0000, David Rance wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 Bob Hobden wrote: "David Rance" wrote ... . . . . Well, I wasn't *quite* ready to go out and buy a new set but was now in a position where I had to. After doing a lot more research I finally decided on a Samsung Smart TV. I thought that, if the sound is poor, I can still plug it into the hi-fi. When it arrived, imagine my disappointment when I found it wasn't possible to do that. Yes, there was a sound output but it was digital and my hi-fi is too old to accept that! However, all's well that ends well because the sound from the new Samsung is superb and I don't need a separate set of speakers. It's even better than my old Sony CRT set. The picture's pretty good, too, especially in HD. If you use a set top box for HD, something like my Freesat Humax 1TB recorder, they have normal sound outputs on them. I have used a set-top box since digital transmissions started. It wouldn't be a good idea to use it in conjunction with the new Samsung because the decoded signal becomes available at different rates and there would be syncing problems. Anyway, as I said above, I don't need to. The sound on the Samsung is excellent. David We had a Sony Bravia in the lounge. Sound OK but the picture was crap. We relocated it to the breakfast room (OK for breakfast TV) and bought an LG plasma TV. About 3 months later we recovered a load of floor space, and cut down on dusting, by boxing up and flogging the hi-fi separates collection. As CDs have replaced vinyl (which replaced 78s) and the sound has deteriorated as a result, we find that the speakers on the telly (OK it's a biggie so we have separation) produce just as good a sound as the old bulky hi-fi setup did. It's a case of do your research properly. Our TV not only has different video modes but also different audio ones. All touch of the button stuff so we can swap easily from film soundtrack to orchestral CD. The BluRay player doubles up as a CD player quite happily. and even a DVD. We have two Sony Bravias one is 32" and is 2.5 years old. The other is 38" and 1.5 years old. Both have excellent pictures, but poor sound. Modern Samsung and Sony TVs also allow different video and audio modes. A Samsung sound bar allows different audio modes too. Sometimes a firmware update/flash works. Stan |
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