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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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, Isabella Woodhouse wrote: We are close to Mexico and our local store sells some tomatoes that are "on the vine" (and they really are!) Tomatoes still attached to the vine. Our groceries have those too. They look like Jet Stars but our regular grocery has a very bad habit of chilling the tomatoes and ruining the taste of even the decent tomatoes. When you cut them open, you can see that line around the circumference that indicates they've been held at too low a temperature. There are other problems too. They order far too much produce and it often sits until its rotten on the inside. Ugh! I have to be very careful. A somewhat close Whole Foods opened recently so I might be able to get better ones there. Perhaps... but I've done best at the farmers market when I can attend. I seldom shop at Whole Paycheck. Sun Harvest is just as good, and more reasonable price-wise. Must be chemistry as those are actually decent. If the price gets too high, I, too, will use canned, even on tacos! I sometimes used canned diced tomatoes in salsa. Brands vary a lot. Meh, I use generic. I have noted that canned tomatoes at least have decent flavor. :-) I did grow a pair of tomatoes last winter in my greenhouse and it sorta worked. I had a few ripe tomatoes in early March, but I had to make sure I paid attention to the plants and hand-pollinated the flowers. I was doing that with cucumbers before we uncovered them. The zucchini were far easier...lol. So long as you get male and female blooms at the same time! :-) Been there, done that. For some reason, there is always a rash of male only blooms at the beginning of the season. Fortunately, I LIKE stuffed squash blossoms! ;-d Deep fried... Mmmmmm. I am wondering if there is a good way to store some of that pollen, and have it be viable. -- Peace! Om "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:56:22 -0500, Omelet
wrote: In article , Isabella Woodhouse wrote: We are close to Mexico and our local store sells some tomatoes that are "on the vine" (and they really are!) Tomatoes still attached to the vine. Our groceries have those too. They look like Jet Stars but our regular grocery has a very bad habit of chilling the tomatoes and ruining the taste of even the decent tomatoes. When you cut them open, you can see that line around the circumference that indicates they've been held at too low a temperature. There are other problems too. They order far too much produce and it often sits until its rotten on the inside. Ugh! I have to be very careful. A somewhat close Whole Foods opened recently so I might be able to get better ones there. Perhaps... but I've done best at the farmers market when I can attend. I seldom shop at Whole Paycheck. Sun Harvest is just as good, and more reasonable price-wise. Must be chemistry as those are actually decent. If the price gets too high, I, too, will use canned, even on tacos! I sometimes used canned diced tomatoes in salsa. Brands vary a lot. Meh, I use generic. I have noted that canned tomatoes at least have decent flavor. :-) I did grow a pair of tomatoes last winter in my greenhouse and it sorta worked. I had a few ripe tomatoes in early March, but I had to make sure I paid attention to the plants and hand-pollinated the flowers. I was doing that with cucumbers before we uncovered them. The zucchini were far easier...lol. So long as you get male and female blooms at the same time! :-) Been there, done that. I was out just this morning helping the zucchini to commit lewd and lascivious acts. Lots of boys, not so many girls. Some of the boys got left out. ( Sue |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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Sue wrote: I did grow a pair of tomatoes last winter in my greenhouse and it sorta worked. I had a few ripe tomatoes in early March, but I had to make sure I paid attention to the plants and hand-pollinated the flowers. I was doing that with cucumbers before we uncovered them. The zucchini were far easier...lol. So long as you get male and female blooms at the same time! :-) Been there, done that. I was out just this morning helping the zucchini to commit lewd and lascivious acts. Lots of boys, not so many girls. Some of the boys got left out. ( Sue lol Not enough girls! Oh well! ;-D I wonder if there is a soil treatment for that? Halfway seriously. g -- Peace! Om "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:42:15 -0500, Omelet
wrote: In article , Sue wrote: I did grow a pair of tomatoes last winter in my greenhouse and it sorta worked. I had a few ripe tomatoes in early March, but I had to make sure I paid attention to the plants and hand-pollinated the flowers. I was doing that with cucumbers before we uncovered them. The zucchini were far easier...lol. So long as you get male and female blooms at the same time! :-) Been there, done that. I was out just this morning helping the zucchini to commit lewd and lascivious acts. Lots of boys, not so many girls. Some of the boys got left out. ( Sue lol Not enough girls! Oh well! ;-D Occasionally I've found a girl who was such a trollop that she was willing to accept the pollen from lots of the boys. You oughta see her batting her petals at them. Disgraceful!!! tch tch. ;o) Sue I wonder if there is a soil treatment for that? Halfway seriously. g |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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Sue wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:42:15 -0500, Omelet wrote: In article , Sue wrote: I did grow a pair of tomatoes last winter in my greenhouse and it sorta worked. I had a few ripe tomatoes in early March, but I had to make sure I paid attention to the plants and hand-pollinated the flowers. I was doing that with cucumbers before we uncovered them. The zucchini were far easier...lol. So long as you get male and female blooms at the same time! :-) Been there, done that. I was out just this morning helping the zucchini to commit lewd and lascivious acts. Lots of boys, not so many girls. Some of the boys got left out. ( Sue lol Not enough girls! Oh well! ;-D Occasionally I've found a girl who was such a trollop that she was willing to accept the pollen from lots of the boys. You oughta see her batting her petals at them. Disgraceful!!! tch tch. ;o) Sue ROFL!!! I've seen Corn Silk like that... -- Peace! Om "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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Omelet wrote: In article , Isabella Woodhouse wrote: We are close to Mexico and our local store sells some tomatoes that are "on the vine" (and they really are!) Tomatoes still attached to the vine. Our groceries have those too. They look like Jet Stars but our regular grocery has a very bad habit of chilling the tomatoes and ruining the taste of even the decent tomatoes. When you cut them open, you can see that line around the circumference that indicates they've been held at too low a temperature. There are other problems too. They order far too much produce and it often sits until its rotten on the inside. Ugh! I have to be very careful. A somewhat close Whole Foods opened recently so I might be able to get better ones there. Perhaps... but I've done best at the farmers market when I can attend. I seldom shop at Whole Paycheck. Sun Harvest is just as good, and more reasonable price-wise. You're lucky you live in a region that has a farmers market operational in the winter. Our markets are barely what you'd call "Farmer's" let alone winter operational. In the summer, we get most of our produce from the garden so I don't need a farmer's market then. Never heard of Sun Harvest. Is that a competitor? I find lots of things competitively priced or better at Whole Foods, and some not--- especially meat. I think it really depends what kinds of foods you buy (or are forced to buy, like gluten-free for instance) and local grocery store pricing. I don't shop there exclusively... far from it. [...] For some reason, there is always a rash of male only blooms at the beginning of the season. Fortunately, I LIKE stuffed squash blossoms! ;-d Deep fried... Mmmmmm. I am wondering if there is a good way to store some of that pollen, and have it be viable. Gosh I have no idea about the pollen. I harvest the male zucchini blossoms most late afternoons and use them for dinner. When there are enough at one time, I batter and deep-fry them as well as zucchini spears. Far more often, they get sauteed and mixed in with something else or chopped over a salad or other dish--- especially a zucchini stir-fry. How I wish I lived in a cool enough climate to grow nasturtiums. I just love them in salads. Isabella -- "I will show you fear in a handful of dust" -T.S. Eliot |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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, Isabella Woodhouse wrote: Never heard of Sun Harvest. Is that a competitor? Yes, and a common one around here. They have a lot of organic and bulk foods, and some _killer_ sales. :-) I find lots of things competitively priced or better at Whole Foods, and some not--- especially meat. I think it really depends what kinds of foods you buy (or are forced to buy, like gluten-free for instance) and local grocery store pricing. I don't shop there exclusively... far from it. I can't eat wheat either. Sun Harvest sells some most excellent corn and rice pasta! I like the corn better. Deboles brand: http://tinyurl.com/6qenfa I am wondering if there is a good way to store some of that pollen, and have it be viable. Gosh I have no idea about the pollen. I harvest the male zucchini blossoms most late afternoons and use them for dinner. When there are enough at one time, I batter and deep-fry them as well as zucchini spears. Far more often, they get sauteed and mixed in with something else or chopped over a salad or other dish--- especially a zucchini stir-fry. I'd not tried them chopped as a salad ingredient. :-) Mom and I always fixed them stuffed and fried. How I wish I lived in a cool enough climate to grow nasturtiums. I just love them in salads. Isabella They grow fast, try growing them seasonally. I can grow them in the late winter/early spring but then when it gets hot, they do die off. I've not tried potting them and keeping them in the shade tho'. Pretty plants! I just wish Lantana was edible. It's drought resistant so I use a lot of it for landscaping. With all the rain we had a couple of weeks ago, my Dallas Reds are blooming their lovely heads off right now! http://i28.tinypic.com/16945yf.jpg I need to take pics of the ones in the driveway garden. Some of those are turning blood red when they mature. :-) -- Peace! Om "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:08:31 -0500, Omelet
wrote: In article , Sue wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:42:15 -0500, Omelet wrote: In article , Sue wrote: I did grow a pair of tomatoes last winter in my greenhouse and it sorta worked. I had a few ripe tomatoes in early March, but I had to make sure I paid attention to the plants and hand-pollinated the flowers. I was doing that with cucumbers before we uncovered them. The zucchini were far easier...lol. So long as you get male and female blooms at the same time! :-) Been there, done that. I was out just this morning helping the zucchini to commit lewd and lascivious acts. Lots of boys, not so many girls. Some of the boys got left out. ( Sue lol Not enough girls! Oh well! ;-D Occasionally I've found a girl who was such a trollop that she was willing to accept the pollen from lots of the boys. You oughta see her batting her petals at them. Disgraceful!!! tch tch. ;o) Sue ROFL!!! I've seen Corn Silk like that... Ach!!! Those brazen tassel twirlers!! Sue |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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Sue wrote: I was out just this morning helping the zucchini to commit lewd and lascivious acts. Lots of boys, not so many girls. Some of the boys got left out. ( Sue lol Not enough girls! Oh well! ;-D Occasionally I've found a girl who was such a trollop that she was willing to accept the pollen from lots of the boys. You oughta see her batting her petals at them. Disgraceful!!! tch tch. ;o) Sue ROFL!!! I've seen Corn Silk like that... Ach!!! Those brazen tassel twirlers!! Sue ;-D -- Peace! Om "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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Omelet wrote: In article , Isabella Woodhouse wrote: Never heard of Sun Harvest. Is that a competitor? Yes, and a common one around here. They have a lot of organic and bulk foods, and some _killer_ sales. :-) Competition is good. I find lots of things competitively priced or better at Whole Foods, and some not--- especially meat. I think it really depends what kinds of foods you buy (or are forced to buy, like gluten-free for instance) and local grocery store pricing. I don't shop there exclusively... far from it. I can't eat wheat either. Sun Harvest sells some most excellent corn and rice pasta! I like the corn better. Deboles brand: http://tinyurl.com/6qenfa Not my cup of tea. Last time I had it, it was awfully grainy and coarse. Tell me it's improved and I'll try it again. I prefer the Tinkyada rice pasta... most of which I get via Amazon. I am wondering if there is a good way to store some of that pollen, and have it be viable. [...] How I wish I lived in a cool enough climate to grow nasturtiums. I just love them in salads. They grow fast, try growing them seasonally. I can grow them in the late winter/early spring but then when it gets hot, they do die off. I've not tried potting them and keeping them in the shade tho'. Pretty plants! Eighty percent of the time, we go almost straight from winter to summer with almost no spring (DH often plants the peas at the end of February). But I will certainly give that a try. In Ohio, I had gorgeous nasturtiums and great salads. Mmmm... the texture of the leaves is so choice. I just wish Lantana was edible. It's drought resistant so I use a lot of it for landscaping. With all the rain we had a couple of weeks ago, my Dallas Reds are blooming their lovely heads off right now! http://i28.tinypic.com/16945yf.jpg Lovely! I need to take pics of the ones in the driveway garden. Some of those are turning blood red when they mature. :-) Our Butterfly bushes are still blooming strong (among others). What a great long-season bloomer--- and so fragrant too. It looks like we'll have some Autumn Joy this year. The zappers have, so far, kept the darn deer away from it. They just love those succulents. Isabella -- "I will show you fear in a handful of dust" -T.S. Eliot |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
In article
, Isabella Woodhouse wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: In article , Isabella Woodhouse wrote: Never heard of Sun Harvest. Is that a competitor? Yes, and a common one around here. They have a lot of organic and bulk foods, and some _killer_ sales. :-) Competition is good. Absolutely! I find lots of things competitively priced or better at Whole Foods, and some not--- especially meat. I think it really depends what kinds of foods you buy (or are forced to buy, like gluten-free for instance) and local grocery store pricing. I don't shop there exclusively... far from it. I can't eat wheat either. Sun Harvest sells some most excellent corn and rice pasta! I like the corn better. Deboles brand: http://tinyurl.com/6qenfa Not my cup of tea. Last time I had it, it was awfully grainy and coarse. Tell me it's improved and I'll try it again. I prefer the Tinkyada rice pasta... most of which I get via Amazon. Huh. I'll have to check that out. I don't eat a lot of pasta as I live low carb for the most part. How I wish I lived in a cool enough climate to grow nasturtiums. I just love them in salads. They grow fast, try growing them seasonally. I can grow them in the late winter/early spring but then when it gets hot, they do die off. I've not tried potting them and keeping them in the shade tho'. Pretty plants! Eighty percent of the time, we go almost straight from winter to summer with almost no spring (DH often plants the peas at the end of February). But I will certainly give that a try. In Ohio, I had gorgeous nasturtiums and great salads. Mmmm... the texture of the leaves is so choice. Have you tried just shading them, or growing them as an indoor plant? I just wish Lantana was edible. It's drought resistant so I use a lot of it for landscaping. With all the rain we had a couple of weeks ago, my Dallas Reds are blooming their lovely heads off right now! http://i28.tinypic.com/16945yf.jpg Lovely! I like them and they save me on water for landscaping. I also want to put in more rosemary. The city uses that a lot for the same reason. That and various salvias. I need to take pics of the ones in the driveway garden. Some of those are turning blood red when they mature. :-) Our Butterfly bushes are still blooming strong (among others). What a great long-season bloomer--- and so fragrant too. It looks like we'll have some Autumn Joy this year. The zappers have, so far, kept the darn deer away from it. They just love those succulents. Isabella I bought a butterfly bush but it's still in it's pot. I'm re-doing the landscaping in front of the front porch. The only rosebushes that live for me are climbing blazes. I need to tame the beast and put her on a trellis. g There is a Crepe myrtle to one side that blooms all year. I'm trying to keep that one pruned into a tree. My cannas used to bloom all year but water is getting more expensive so I don't water them enough anymore. I plan to dig them all up and put them into a smaller raised bed, then plant spineless cacti in their spot. I have some San Pedro in the greenhouse, and will also use some of the local spineless prickly pear. -- Peace! Om "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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Omelet wrote: In article , Isabella Woodhouse wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: In article . I can't eat wheat either. Sun Harvest sells some most excellent corn and rice pasta! I like the corn better. Deboles brand: http://tinyurl.com/6qenfa Not my cup of tea. Last time I had it, it was awfully grainy and coarse. Tell me it's improved and I'll try it again. I prefer the Tinkyada rice pasta... most of which I get via Amazon. Huh. I'll have to check that out. I don't eat a lot of pasta as I live low carb for the most part. With celiac and thyroid, my diet already has enough restrictions so I don't do strict low-carbing though I do pay strong attention to the glycemic index of foods. I restrict pasta to once weekly or less, potatoes even less often, and my DH and I hardly ever have baked goods or bread. BLTs with the fabulous tomatoes in late summer are an exception--- mine on rice bread of course. My daughter eats everything OTOH. I've always been fond of Julia's 'everything in moderation' advice and, more recently, Michael Pollan's: "Eat food, mostly plants, not too much" advice. Eighty percent of the time, we go almost straight from winter to summer with almost no spring (DH often plants the peas at the end of February). But I will certainly give that a try. In Ohio, I had gorgeous nasturtiums and great salads. Mmmm... the texture of the leaves is so choice. Have you tried just shading them, or growing them as an indoor plant? Shade doesn't work. I think maybe they like cool nights and, with the exception of this unusual summer, our July and August nights usually stay in the 80s, rarely dipping below 78 degrees. We have low-E glazing throughout this house so plants don't do as well indoors. It's challenging just to get my rosemary to survive the winter indoors. But, it's worth a try for nasturtiums. I need to take pics of the ones in the driveway garden. Some of those are turning blood red when they mature. :-) Our Butterfly bushes are still blooming strong (among others). What a great long-season bloomer--- and so fragrant too. It looks like we'll have some Autumn Joy this year. The zappers have, so far, kept the darn deer away from it. They just love those succulents. I bought a butterfly bush but it's still in it's pot. I'm re-doing the landscaping in front of the front porch. The only rosebushes that live for me are climbing blazes. I need to tame the beast and put her on a trellis. g Isn't that a rambler? What about bourbons and teas? Or do they need a lot of humidity? Only a few bourbons will grow easily here, even on their own roots. There is a Crepe myrtle to one side that blooms all year. I'm trying to keep that one pruned into a tree. Ours get nipped back sometimes by cold weather and survive mainly as bushes. My cannas used to bloom all year but water is getting more expensive so I don't water them enough anymore. I plan to dig them all up and put them into a smaller raised bed, then plant spineless cacti in their spot. I have some San Pedro in the greenhouse, and will also use some of the local spineless prickly pear. -- "I will show you fear in a handful of dust" -T.S. Eliot |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
In article
, Isabella Woodhouse wrote: Huh. I'll have to check that out. I don't eat a lot of pasta as I live low carb for the most part. With celiac and thyroid, my diet already has enough restrictions so I don't do strict low-carbing though I do pay strong attention to the glycemic index of foods. I restrict pasta to once weekly or less, potatoes even less often, and my DH and I hardly ever have baked goods or bread. BLTs with the fabulous tomatoes in late summer are an exception--- mine on rice bread of course. My daughter eats everything OTOH. I've always been fond of Julia's 'everything in moderation' advice and, more recently, Michael Pollan's: "Eat food, mostly plants, not too much" advice. Sounds good. :-) I'm also hypothyroid, and insulin resistant. Interestingly enough, the dietary restrictions I ended up with actually netted me a MORE varied diet! I started branching out and trying new things. I'm now in love with the asian market. Eighty percent of the time, we go almost straight from winter to summer with almost no spring (DH often plants the peas at the end of February). But I will certainly give that a try. In Ohio, I had gorgeous nasturtiums and great salads. Mmmm... the texture of the leaves is so choice. Have you tried just shading them, or growing them as an indoor plant? Shade doesn't work. I think maybe they like cool nights and, with the exception of this unusual summer, our July and August nights usually stay in the 80s, rarely dipping below 78 degrees. We have low-E glazing throughout this house so plants don't do as well indoors. It's challenging just to get my rosemary to survive the winter indoors. But, it's worth a try for nasturtiums. Well, they do mature rather quickly! It's one of the things I love about them. You may be able to at least grow them seasonally. I need to take pics of the ones in the driveway garden. Some of those are turning blood red when they mature. :-) Our Butterfly bushes are still blooming strong (among others). What a great long-season bloomer--- and so fragrant too. It looks like we'll have some Autumn Joy this year. The zappers have, so far, kept the darn deer away from it. They just love those succulents. I bought a butterfly bush but it's still in it's pot. I'm re-doing the landscaping in front of the front porch. The only rosebushes that live for me are climbing blazes. I need to tame the beast and put her on a trellis. g Isn't that a rambler? Only if I let it. g What about bourbons and teas? Or do they need a lot of humidity? Only a few bourbons will grow easily here, even on their own roots. I should put in another climbing peace. We had that one for several years and it smelled heavenly and produced large, showy blooms. There is a Crepe myrtle to one side that blooms all year. I'm trying to keep that one pruned into a tree. Ours get nipped back sometimes by cold weather and survive mainly as bushes. They are pretty tough. Where are you? I'm in central Texas, Austin area. -- Peace! Om "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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Omelet wrote: In article , Isabella Woodhouse wrote: Huh. I'll have to check that out. I don't eat a lot of pasta as I live low carb for the most part. With celiac and thyroid, my diet already has enough restrictions so I don't do strict low-carbing though I do pay strong attention to the glycemic index of foods. I restrict pasta to once weekly or less, potatoes even less often, and my DH and I hardly ever have baked goods or bread. BLTs with the fabulous tomatoes in late summer are an exception--- mine on rice bread of course. My daughter eats everything OTOH. I've always been fond of Julia's 'everything in moderation' advice and, more recently, Michael Pollan's: "Eat food, mostly plants, not too much" advice. Sounds good. :-) I'm also hypothyroid, and insulin resistant. The autoimmune spectrum now affects a very significant portion of the population. Scary. Have you read _Dangerous Grains_? Interestingly enough, the dietary restrictions I ended up with actually netted me a MORE varied diet! I started branching out and trying new things. I'm now in love with the asian market. Asian cooking taught me to make up dishes on the fly. I consider the stir-fry one of the all-time great cooking methods because you can stir fry practically anything. And what a boon for those of us with our own edible gardens. However, I do miss eating out at Chinese restaurants since it's nearly impossible to get anything that is gluten free. [...] There is a Crepe myrtle to one side that blooms all year. I'm trying to keep that one pruned into a tree. Ours get nipped back sometimes by cold weather and survive mainly as bushes. They are pretty tough. Where are you? I'm in central Texas, Austin area. 30+ miles due west of St. Louis. Zone 6. I see you're 8. Big difference! -- "I will show you fear in a handful of dust" -T.S. Eliot |
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Why Heirloom Tomatoes??
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, Isabella Woodhouse wrote: Sounds good. :-) I'm also hypothyroid, and insulin resistant. The autoimmune spectrum now affects a very significant portion of the population. Scary. Have you read _Dangerous Grains_? No, do tell? I understand that "modern wheat" is a hybrid of Spelt. And not any near as healthy... Interestingly enough, the dietary restrictions I ended up with actually netted me a MORE varied diet! I started branching out and trying new things. I'm now in love with the asian market. Asian cooking taught me to make up dishes on the fly. Ditto! g I consider the stir-fry one of the all-time great cooking methods because you can stir fry practically anything. And what a boon for those of us with our own edible gardens. However, I do miss eating out at Chinese restaurants since it's nearly impossible to get anything that is gluten free. I appear to be ok with that for the most part. We rarely eat out at all any more. I'm a better cook. g And it saves money. Where are you? I'm in central Texas, Austin area. 30+ miles due west of St. Louis. Zone 6. I see you're 8. Big difference! Huh. I must confess to not being too knowledgeable about zones. :-( I feel ignorant and have never paid much attention to them. I understand the concept ok. I just know what I can grow, and what I can't, and what works in the greenhouses I have. -- Peace! Om "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain |
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