One time when I was a lot younger, me and another guy took an old
casette player and on a 90 min tape, recorded over and over from a
sounds effect record the sound of an A-bomb blast. The other guy
rigged a sound sencor chip and a timer chip into the playback side,
after the last bit of each sound there was a tiny note that when the
chip head it, would stop the tape from advancing, the timer chip would
start and 10 mins later the whole thing happened again.

We planted it near a guys house who we didn't like and it was out of
sight. It only lasted one night, but it drive him wild hunting for it
in the middle of the night.


--
"Knowledge is a 3 edged Sword" Kosh on Babylon 5
www.starlords.org


"Rich" wrote in message
...
starlord starlord wrote:
heck I'd set up my own system and make sure it pointed towards him
and
then put on some high class classical and make sure it was louder
than
his and let it rip.





Oh don't think that hasn't been running through my head.........I
have
in my studio (I am an artist) a surround sound system by Bose that
could
outblast any of the tower speakers I used to have in decades
past......and a few cds of some counter-culture groups like
Throbbing
Gristle that would probably break a few windows.........it takes
very
little brains to blast music. And if there weren't other neighbors
who
would get disturbed (not to mention my wife G) I would blast MY
stereo
so I wouldn't know he existed. however..............that wouldn't
permit
me to enjoy the sounds of nature, which I consider to be the status
quo
(funny how many think the status quo is the sound of THEIR stereos
VBG)

I've lived in places where the people next door would crank their boom
boxs up and when asked to lower them down a bit, all they did was
crank them up more, so then I'd go home turn on mine with the Japanese
Superhero records at the ready and let'm have it. In a short time
they'd turn off theirs and I'd turn off mine.

And someone throw a rock at me? They'd better go hide, this Vietnam
vet doesn't turn the other cheek.



--
"Knowledge is a 3 edged Sword" Kosh on Babylon 5
www.starlords.org


"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:11:47 GMT, wrote:


Oh, yeah. If someone throws a rock at you, the "solution" is to
throw
a bigger rock. There are *many* solutions to problems that don't
involve tit for tat. I once cranked up Mozart on my car radio (open
windows) to 'make a point' with the unwelcome music coming from an
adjacent car in a parking lot. Result: I don't really enjoy Mozart
at
50 decibels; I risked/provoked confrontation with unknown people;
they
didn't lower their volume (fortunately they didn't leap out of their
car and smash my windows), and AFAIK, I was the only one left
feeling
a bit foolish. You don't "teach" people to be polite and
accomodating
by matching or exceeding their rudeness.

One time when I was a lot younger, me and another guy took an old
casette player and on a 90 min tape, recorded over and over from a
sounds effect record the sound of an A-bomb blast. The other guy
rigged a sound sencor chip and a timer chip into the playback side,
after the last bit of each sound there was a tiny note that when the
chip head it, would stop the tape from advancing, the timer chip would
start and 10 mins later the whole thing happened again.

We planted it near a guys house who we didn't like and it was out of
sight. It only lasted one night, but it drive him wild hunting for it
in the middle of the night.


--
"Knowledge is a 3 edged Sword" Kosh on Babylon 5
www.starlords.org


"Rich" wrote in message
...
starlord starlord wrote:
heck I'd set up my own system and make sure it pointed towards him
and
then put on some high class classical and make sure it was louder
than
his and let it rip.





Oh don't think that hasn't been running through my head.........I
have
in my studio (I am an artist) a surround sound system by Bose that
could
outblast any of the tower speakers I used to have in decades
past......and a few cds of some counter-culture groups like
Throbbing
Gristle that would probably break a few windows.........it takes
very
little brains to blast music. And if there weren't other neighbors
who
would get disturbed (not to mention my wife G) I would blast MY
stereo
so I wouldn't know he existed. however..............that wouldn't
permit
me to enjoy the sounds of nature, which I consider to be the status
quo
(funny how many think the status quo is the sound of THEIR stereos
VBG)

It has happened right here in the trailer park I live in, when we had
a bunch that lived just two doors down from me, they'd have their cars
boombox going full blast during the day, it got to the point I got an
old record player, put a full set of speckers outside and dug out my
Jpanese Super Hero records and let'm rip. Then one of them walked
threw my gate to reach down and turn it off, I stepped outside with my
Japanese sword in hand and told'm if they touched anything they'd lose
their hand real fast. So when the manager had to kick them out for
none payment of rent, I was very happy to serve the papers on them.
We've not had any troubles in the park since they left last summer.


--
"Knowledge is a 3 edged Sword" Kosh on Babylon 5
www.starlords.org

It has happened right here in the trailer park I live in, when we had
a bunch that lived just two doors down from me, they'd have their cars
boombox going full blast during the day, it got to the point I got an
old record player, put a full set of speckers outside and dug out my
Jpanese Super Hero records and let'm rip. Then one of them walked
threw my gate to reach down and turn it off, I stepped outside with my
Japanese sword in hand and told'm if they touched anything they'd lose
their hand real fast. So when the manager had to kick them out for
none payment of rent, I was very happy to serve the papers on them.
We've not had any troubles in the park since they left last summer.


--
"Knowledge is a 3 edged Sword" Kosh on Babylon 5
www.starlords.org

This has been an amusing thread. I also dislike loud music of any kind (I'm
a classical pianist by profession). I have a neighbor who apparently is
part of a rock band, and on certain days in the summer practices his/her
drumset for hours.
I have found that a loud enough water-feature will mask most annoying
sounds. Do you the space and the right terrain to create a fountain or
waterfall? Even though the volume of those is relatively high, most people
find the sound of splashing water quite soothing, especially as compared to
obnoxious music.
"Father Haskell" wrote in message
...
Rich wrote:

This may not be the right group to ask this question in but I am hoping
some other gardeners have had this problem and found a solution.

I've got a neighbor across the street that apparently likes to
garden/maintain his house to the beat of a drummer (not a diffeernt
drummer, just a drummmer and a 28 piece band BG)..to enhance his
listening pleasure he has installed outdoor speakers.

Do likewise. PA horns are cheap, carry well.

Advisable NOT to exceed the idiot's volume level. Best to stay
a notch below. Sun Tzu said always maintain the high ground.

Yeah
sometimes I want to listen to some music myself but I use wireless
headphones and no one knows I am listening to The Beatles as loud as I
did when I was a thoughtless teenager.

Old fart's music. Good choice. So is 1940 - 1970 era C&W. Apparently,
shopping center managers have used it effectively to rid their
properties of loiterers.

This has happened to me also. I moved from a town to a quiet country
setting on a dirt road that was not used by people. I was hardly there a
few years when in moved the construction people and houses popped up every
where. Next thing a park was built for children and then the music started.
It ruined my perfectly quiet atmosphere.
The only solution I could think of besides moving was the nice little foam
ear plugs I used to wear when working in a factory. They work great for
keeping out noise and I have been thinking about wearing them a lot more
lately....like to the supermarket where they decided to play the loud
screechy music which is annoying when shopping.
I only need to use them sometimes as it is not noisy all the time, mostly on
weekend when kids gather with their music.

Susan Feader wrote:
This has happened to me also. I moved from a town to a quiet country
setting on a dirt road that was not used by people. I was hardly there a
few years when in moved the construction people and houses popped up every
where. Next thing a park was built for children and then the music started.
It ruined my perfectly quiet atmosphere.
The only solution I could think of besides moving was the nice little foam
ear plugs I used to wear when working in a factory. They work great for
keeping out noise and I have been thinking about wearing them a lot more
lately....like to the supermarket where they decided to play the loud
screechy music which is annoying when shopping.
I only need to use them sometimes as it is not noisy all the time, mostly on
weekend when kids gather with their music.


hmm, I know the ear plugs you mean (my wife snores, LOL).............but
then I couldn't hear the birds and waterfall....which is one of the
reasons I didn't want to hear the music to begin with. I DID hear a
rumor yesterday that my noisey neighbor MIGHT be moving this
summer...........but then I don't put much stock in rumors and the ones
I really want to come true are usually just that, rumors G

oh.........by the way, the last minute question I put on my original
post..............regarding leyland cypress...........seems I am the
culpret, indirectly any way.........I sprayed a product called TREE
GUARD to try to stop the deer from eating what little there was left
that they already hadn't.....now every leyland cypress I had sprayed is
turning light green, the leaves are curling and dry parts are crumbling
to the touch. I couldn't have mixed it incorrectly as the instructions
said to use it right from the $40/gallon container. Arborvitae are all
fine but a blue star juniper is showing the same condition. The side of
the leyland cypresses that faces another neighbor is fine ( I ran out of
TREE GUARD and had to use Hinder on that side.....no damage at all there)

Btw, the deer LOVED the tasted of Tree Guard. I resorted to fencing the
yard in with 7' plastic netting and thus far no more deer have gotten
into the yard.

Thanks for all the responses to my problem with my noisey
neighbor.....most of which I cannot use as someone has to be OUT of Jail
to hybridize the daylilies BG. Besides, when I lived in an apartment
for 15 years, i used most of those methods and found one-upmanship
doesn't work, there are always bigger speakers and stupider people to
silence, G.

I am sure something will work out
rich

Susan Feader wrote:
This has happened to me also. I moved from a town to a quiet country
setting on a dirt road that was not used by people. I was hardly there a
few years when in moved the construction people and houses popped up every
where. Next thing a park was built for children and then the music started.
It ruined my perfectly quiet atmosphere.
The only solution I could think of besides moving was the nice little foam
ear plugs I used to wear when working in a factory. They work great for
keeping out noise and I have been thinking about wearing them a lot more
lately....like to the supermarket where they decided to play the loud
screechy music which is annoying when shopping.
I only need to use them sometimes as it is not noisy all the time, mostly on
weekend when kids gather with their music.


hmm, I know the ear plugs you mean (my wife snores, LOL).............but
then I couldn't hear the birds and waterfall....which is one of the
reasons I didn't want to hear the music to begin with. I DID hear a
rumor yesterday that my noisey neighbor MIGHT be moving this
summer...........but then I don't put much stock in rumors and the ones
I really want to come true are usually just that, rumors G

oh.........by the way, the last minute question I put on my original
post..............regarding leyland cypress...........seems I am the
culpret, indirectly any way.........I sprayed a product called TREE
GUARD to try to stop the deer from eating what little there was left
that they already hadn't.....now every leyland cypress I had sprayed is
turning light green, the leaves are curling and dry parts are crumbling
to the touch. I couldn't have mixed it incorrectly as the instructions
said to use it right from the $40/gallon container. Arborvitae are all
fine but a blue star juniper is showing the same condition. The side of
the leyland cypresses that faces another neighbor is fine ( I ran out of
TREE GUARD and had to use Hinder on that side.....no damage at all there)

Btw, the deer LOVED the tasted of Tree Guard. I resorted to fencing the
yard in with 7' plastic netting and thus far no more deer have gotten
into the yard.

Thanks for all the responses to my problem with my noisey
neighbor.....most of which I cannot use as someone has to be OUT of Jail
to hybridize the daylilies BG. Besides, when I lived in an apartment
for 15 years, i used most of those methods and found one-upmanship
doesn't work, there are always bigger speakers and stupider people to
silence, G.

I am sure something will work out
rich

oops, I forgot to ask, is this a pic-free group or are you allowed to
post pictures?

rich

oops, I forgot to ask, is this a pic-free group or are you allowed to
post pictures?

rich

oops, I forgot to ask, is this a pic-free group or are you allowed to
post pictures?

rich

oops, I forgot to ask, is this a pic-free group or are you allowed to
post pictures?

rich

Talk with your neighbors and work out your differences. Most people will
adjust.





















On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:13:22 +0000, Rich wrote:

This may not be the right group to ask this question in but I am hoping
some other gardeners have had this problem and found a solution.

I've got a neighbor across the street that apparently likes to
garden/maintain his house to the beat of a drummer (not a diffeernt
drummer, just a drummmer and a 28 piece band BG)..to enhance his
listening pleasure he has installed outdoor speakers. HE enjoys it but
(he did this as the weather was getting cold late last year (I am in
northern NJ)and now with some warmer days happening, so is his 6-8 hour
marathons of music) The noise makes the thought of gardening in peace a
thing of the past for me. I have lived here for 14 years on a dead end
street and its quite peaceful, or WAS until this character decided that
his music must be shared with the world. I am perplexed that people
cannot just enjoy the sounds of nature when working outside. Yeah
sometimes I want to listen to some music myself but I use wireless
headphones and no one knows I am listening to The Beatles as loud as I
did when I was a thoughtless teenager. I mentioned this to him after a
another neighbor (right across the street from him) called me to ask if
I would speak to this individual about the loud music. That is when I
heard "hey I have the right to play my music during the
daytime".....apparently the concept of other peoples right to quiet is
beyond his comprehension.OR he just doesn't give a S***~ which is more
likely the case.

I have talked with the other neighbors and while they HEAR it and find
it annoying they don't want to say anything (are most people deaf or
just sheep?). Perhaps its because they spend most of the winter shut up
tight (though the music comes through MY windows) and spend the summer
in central air and still keep those windows shut tight. I guess I am
weird, I LIKE fresh air........but now its polluted with noise that is
so unnecessary.

I have spoken with the police and while there is a town ordinance again
noise above certain decibles, I was told it was rarely
enforced....besides I hate the though of having to call the police on a
neighbor....not only does it go against my principles (though I have to
admit I am ready to throw them out the window in return for some garden
serenty) but it may open a bigger can of worms...a ****ed off neighbor.

now, after a long winded post, my question.........

Have any other gardeners run into a problem like this and how did they
resolve it (besides moving)?


(and a last minute thought though it should be saved for a different
post).........I noted this am a whole row of 10' Leyland cypress are
turing light green a brittle.........what is going ON this winter? What
the deer don't eat, the wet soggy/frozen ground is rotting
roots...anyone having this problem? Thus far I have lost a 20' weeping
nootkantensis and the deer have eaten over 10 hemlocks, 16 arborvitae
and utterly destroyed every euonymous I own (owned)...

rich haynes

Talk with your neighbors and work out your differences. Most people will
adjust.





















On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:13:22 +0000, Rich wrote:

This may not be the right group to ask this question in but I am hoping
some other gardeners have had this problem and found a solution.

I've got a neighbor across the street that apparently likes to
garden/maintain his house to the beat of a drummer (not a diffeernt
drummer, just a drummmer and a 28 piece band BG)..to enhance his
listening pleasure he has installed outdoor speakers. HE enjoys it but
(he did this as the weather was getting cold late last year (I am in
northern NJ)and now with some warmer days happening, so is his 6-8 hour
marathons of music) The noise makes the thought of gardening in peace a
thing of the past for me. I have lived here for 14 years on a dead end
street and its quite peaceful, or WAS until this character decided that
his music must be shared with the world. I am perplexed that people
cannot just enjoy the sounds of nature when working outside. Yeah
sometimes I want to listen to some music myself but I use wireless
headphones and no one knows I am listening to The Beatles as loud as I
did when I was a thoughtless teenager. I mentioned this to him after a
another neighbor (right across the street from him) called me to ask if
I would speak to this individual about the loud music. That is when I
heard "hey I have the right to play my music during the
daytime".....apparently the concept of other peoples right to quiet is
beyond his comprehension.OR he just doesn't give a S***~ which is more
likely the case.

I have talked with the other neighbors and while they HEAR it and find
it annoying they don't want to say anything (are most people deaf or
just sheep?). Perhaps its because they spend most of the winter shut up
tight (though the music comes through MY windows) and spend the summer
in central air and still keep those windows shut tight. I guess I am
weird, I LIKE fresh air........but now its polluted with noise that is
so unnecessary.

I have spoken with the police and while there is a town ordinance again
noise above certain decibles, I was told it was rarely
enforced....besides I hate the though of having to call the police on a
neighbor....not only does it go against my principles (though I have to
admit I am ready to throw them out the window in return for some garden
serenty) but it may open a bigger can of worms...a ****ed off neighbor.

now, after a long winded post, my question.........

Have any other gardeners run into a problem like this and how did they
resolve it (besides moving)?


(and a last minute thought though it should be saved for a different
post).........I noted this am a whole row of 10' Leyland cypress are
turing light green a brittle.........what is going ON this winter? What
the deer don't eat, the wet soggy/frozen ground is rotting
roots...anyone having this problem? Thus far I have lost a 20' weeping
nootkantensis and the deer have eaten over 10 hemlocks, 16 arborvitae
and utterly destroyed every euonymous I own (owned)...

rich haynes