"Vox Humana" wrote in message
...

"Sheila" wrote in message
...
There is far more problems with teen pregnancy than years ago when sex
education wasn't in the schools. Yes, the last year or so, teen
pregnancy has come down, but it nowhere near the levels when I was
young.
But of course, you know all the answers!

I realize that I'm not going to get a rational answer but I will ask none
the less. Please let us know what the teen pregnancy rate was in the time
frame of "years ago." In other words, back-up your assertion. Cite some
credible sources like the CDC.



In another newsgroup, I've been dueling with a clone of Sheila for years, so
I'll guess the answer:

"Statistics and surveys can be skewed to look the way someone wants them to,
especially in a quasi-political organization like the CDC."

Doug, Vox, et al,
Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or
something. This group is supposed to be about gardening.

Regards,
Bob

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Doug, Vox, et al,
Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or
something. This group is supposed to be about gardening.

We wouldn't have had all these problems for all these years if it hadn't
been for a certain woman in a garden, an apple, and a serpent.

In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:

I like peaches.

Peaches la Rue the stripper?

-paggers

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com

In article , zxcvbob wrote:

Doug, Vox, et al,
Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or
something. This group is supposed to be about gardening.

Regards,
Bob

Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the
rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens.

But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your
kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the
off-topic.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com

"paghat" wrote in message
news
In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:

I like peaches.

Peaches la Rue the stripper?


I'm not familiar with Peaches la Rue, but I once knew a drag queen who went
by the name of "Georgia Peach" or "Miss Peaches" for short.

"paghat" wrote in message
news
In article , zxcvbob
wrote:

Doug, Vox, et al,
Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or
something. This group is supposed to be about gardening.

Regards,
Bob

Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the
rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens.

But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your
kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the
off-topic.


I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread as
much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me of
lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago. When
I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns Hopkins
University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was posted.

http://tinyurl.com/46thx
http://tinyurl.com/532dy


Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his fondness
for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to me.
http://tinyurl.com/5b96p

And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to
Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj

And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann
Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/6998o

Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just
find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic
threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups.

In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:

"paghat" wrote in message
news
In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:

I like peaches.

Peaches la Rue the stripper?


I'm not familiar with Peaches la Rue, but I once knew a drag queen who went
by the name of "Georgia Peach" or "Miss Peaches" for short.

Here's Peaches "the day stripper" aka Merrill Nesker, porn-rocker &
underground superstar:
http://www.thefab.net/topics/art_music/cm25_peaches.htm

Then there's underground filmmaker & drag queen Joshua Grannel
aka Peaches Christ:
http://www.peacheschrist.com/backlas...eet/index.html

-paggers

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com

Vox Humana wrote:
"paghat" wrote in message
news
In article , zxcvbob

wrote:

Doug, Vox, et al,
Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or
something. This group is supposed to be about gardening.

Regards,
Bob

Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the
rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens.

But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your
kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the
off-topic.



I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread as
much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me of
lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago. When
I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns Hopkins
University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was posted.

http://tinyurl.com/46thx
http://tinyurl.com/532dy


Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his fondness
for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to me.
http://tinyurl.com/5b96p

And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to
Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj

And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann
Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/6998o

Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just
find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic
threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups.




This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about
half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough?
In each the the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an
existing off-topic discussion thread. I'm not saying that's a *good*
thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty
much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the
group.

Get a room or something.

Regards,
Bob

In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:

"paghat" wrote in message
news
In article , zxcvbob
wrote:

Doug, Vox, et al,
Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or
something. This group is supposed to be about gardening.

Regards,
Bob

Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the
rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens.

But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your
kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the
off-topic.


I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread as
much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me of
lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago. When
I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns Hopkins
University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was posted.

http://tinyurl.com/46thx
http://tinyurl.com/532dy


Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his fondness
for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to me.
http://tinyurl.com/5b96p

And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to
Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj

And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann
Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/6998o

Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just
find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to off-topic
threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups.

Maybe also because Sheila makes rightwingers out to be uneddicated loons &
is WAY too easy a target for a thinking response? I swear to Great Ghu.
I've met some actually intelligent (though misguided) rightwingers in my
life, but they all seem too embarrassed to pipe in when the usenet variety
of rightwinger starts making rattling sounds with the rocks in their
heads.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Vox Humana wrote:
"paghat" wrote in message
news
In article , zxcvbob

wrote:

Doug, Vox, et al,
Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or
something. This group is supposed to be about gardening.

Regards,
Bob

Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the
rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens.

But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your
kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the
off-topic.



I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread
as
much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me
of
lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago.
When
I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns
Hopkins
University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was
posted.

http://tinyurl.com/46thx
http://tinyurl.com/532dy


Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his
fondness
for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to
me.
http://tinyurl.com/5b96p

And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to
Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj

And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann
Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/6998o

Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just
find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to
off-topic
threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups.




This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about
half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough?

Actually, 28% of the messages ... but I don't keep track unless someone
brings up the subject. I don't think the length or longevity of the thread
is of any consequence. I read and post to threads that interest me, and
skip the rest.


In each the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an
existing off-topic discussion thread.

It was a quick search, not an exhaustive one. I don't care if you post
hundreds of messages to off-topic threads all across Usenet. I just don't
think you can be critical of posting to off-topic threads when you do it
yourself. I do think that you are more likely to confront posters who
disagree with your political point of view.

I'm not saying that's a *good*
thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty
much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the
group.

I'm not monopolizing the group. I don't have that kind of power. I have
responded to messages posted by others. I guess I crossed some invisible
line or something! Somehow I bet that line wouldn't have materialized had I
been advancing the RNC point of view.


Get a room or something.

Consider skipping threads that don't interest you.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 13:02:00 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote:

Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else?
Really Bob, not everyone whacks off in front of their computer!

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 17:49:42 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote:

This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about
half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough?
In each the the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an
existing off-topic discussion thread. I'm not saying that's a *good*
thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty
much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the
group.

Get a room or something.

Regards,
Bob
Boob, can you really be this stupid? It's impossible to monopolize.
You got your 2 cents worth of Bullshit in! Post something you find
important then jack off to the thread. In the meantime learn to use
the power of your computer and delete the thread or get a newsreader
that lets you filter.

Vox Humana wrote:
"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...

Vox Humana wrote:

"paghat" wrote in message
news

In article , zxcvbob

wrote:


Doug, Vox, et al,
Could y'all go masturbate somewhere else? Maybe take it to email or
something. This group is supposed to be about gardening.

Regards,
Bob

Bushes are garden plants & loony rightwingers have vegetables where the
rest of us have brains, so it IS all about gardens.

But you don't like a measily one off-topic thread, don't read it. Your
kvetching about it is doubly off-topic -- being off-topic for the
off-topic.



I suspect that the problems isn't so much that it is an off-topic thread

as

much as that it isn't flattering to organized religion. Bob accused me

of

lying about the percentage of priests that were gay a few months ago.

When

I posted a link to a study conducted by a faculty member at Johns

Hopkins

University that supported my assertion, not so much as a "sorry" was

posted.

http://tinyurl.com/46thx
http://tinyurl.com/532dy


Interestingly, Bob found it just fine to post a message about his

fondness

for Fox News to Rec.Food.Cooking just last week - sounds off-topic to

me.

http://tinyurl.com/5b96p

And a message about how Germany was "screwed" prior to WWII - to
Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/3mzqj

And a message about how USA today declined to print a column by Ann
Coulter - to Rec.food.cooking
http://tinyurl.com/6998o

Now, I'm not saying that Bob shouldn't have posted the messages. I just
find it interesting that he has a problem with others posting to

off-topic

threads here while he posts to off-topic threads on other news groups.




This Bush thread has been going on for days and has accounted for about
half the messages in this group lately. Doncha think that's enough?


Actually, 28% of the messages ... but I don't keep track unless someone
brings up the subject. I don't think the length or longevity of the thread
is of any consequence. I read and post to threads that interest me, and
skip the rest.



In each the above examples, I posted one or two messages in an
existing off-topic discussion thread.


It was a quick search, not an exhaustive one. I don't care if you post
hundreds of messages to off-topic threads all across Usenet. I just don't
think you can be critical of posting to off-topic threads when you do it
yourself. I do think that you are more likely to confront posters who
disagree with your political point of view.

I'm not saying that's a *good*

thing, but I hardly see how it compares to you and Doug saying pretty
much the same rants over and over and over and over and monopolizing the
group.


I'm not monopolizing the group. I don't have that kind of power. I have
responded to messages posted by others. I guess I crossed some invisible
line or something! Somehow I bet that line wouldn't have materialized had I
been advancing the RNC point of view.


Get a room or something.


Consider skipping threads that don't interest you.




I skipped this for a couple of days, then checked to see what y'all were
still yakking about.

"Somehow I bet that line wouldn't have materialized had I been advancing
the RNC point of view." I think it would have. I don't *care* what
your politics are. I also don't care about your sexuality or your
religion (and I don't want to hear about them). I am concerned about
your anti-religious bigotry. I would much rather be able to respect
your opinion on gardening or cooking or whatever, but I have more
respect now for Sheldon. I don't like Sheldon, but at least he is just
base and offensive, he doesn't try to feign this smug superiority like you.
Even your examples of my off-topic posts were distorted and dishonest.
I didn't remember posting anything about Ann Coulter, so I went back and
looked it up; I didn't say anything about AC, I tried to referee an
argument that was breaking out in an off-topic thread started by your
buddy Nancree. In the message about Fox News, I said (in a thread that
someone else started) that I like them but don't trust them as a single
source of news. If you were really looking for an example of my
off-topic posts, you would have mentioned my "A shot rang oujt" post to
r.f.c., but that one doesn't help you marginalize me so you skipped it.

This is my last post in this thread for a while. Hopefully it will die
out soon; I don't really wanna contribute to keeping it going any more
than I have to. Some things just have to be confronted, and your
extended offensive off-topic tirade was one of 'em.

Regards,
Bob

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:12:53 -0400, Sheila opined:



escapee wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:51:59 -0400, Sheila opined:

So, it's OK to abort a child?

Yes, Sheila. People have abortions.

So when is it OK not to take a life. Should a person be allowed to kill
a child when it's a week old, maybe an hour old, where do you draw the
line?

If you are going to quote me, quote me correctly. Don't pick and choose your
fear and freaky based ideas out of what I say. Here is the direct quote:


************************************************** **************************************

"Yes, Sheila. People have abortions. That's their karma, not yours. Mind how
your own life is going and don't have an abortion if it goes against your
principles, but don't slide down the slippery slope of putting religious faith
or mix up your emotions with others' emotions.

Personally, I am not pro-abortion. I'm pro-choice. I would not now choose to
have one, but that's easy for me to say having had a complete hysterectomy.
However, I have my right to choose and have had that since I was about 15 years
old. Aren't there any more important issues in the world to direct so much
energy toward?

Why not do fundraiser's for kids in the United States who have nothing to eat
tonight. Did you know in the Ozark Mountains there are children who live
without running water or electricity? Have you ever been to a really poor
community? Maybe the effort you put in to help keep these kids alive is
misguided. Maybe you can go out and raise some money to help support these born
children, who are actually going to repeat the same thing their mothers did.
Have more babies who will have nothing...the beat goes on. Maybe your church
should take some of that money and instead of buying a bigger organ, can donate
it to these families who are so far out in the bush they don't know there IS a
welfare system. Yeah, it exists in America, believe it or not."

V
************************************************** *************************************

I will say one thing for you, you are consistently avoiding any confrontation
and you are consistently ignorant of the fact that it is not up to YOU.
Abortion is legal in the United States, and it is up to the person having the
abortion. I am not the one who gets to decide when a life is a life. I have my
beliefs and they are way different than yours, but I would never tell another
what to do. They will have to live their life as they see fit. It's none of
your business. And the line is drawn, in this case, where the law allows.
Abortion is legal, case closed. Killing a child is illegal. Next question.

V





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