"Oz" wrote in message
...
Jim Webster writes
yes, when you look at how much reserve stock is available in some towns,
two
or three days cut off with snow would be a major issue

Hmmm...

More true than one would want to know about. Few people store more than
a few days of anything. Stocks of dried foods (flour, pulses etc) are
often zero these days.

A situation where vast areas of the country were cut off (eg 1963) would
actually be life threatening on a mass scale.

Also, people seem to hoard-buy things like bread rather than dried
foods.


actually in area where they are dependent on pumping stations to get them
water, that might not be too silly. What use dry foods when there is no
water at the tap and no one has come round with standpipes?
You'd probably need to have both dried and tinned foods, and a few spare
water containers

Jim Webster

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:33:54 GMT, Elaine Jones
wrote:

Quoting from message
posted on 9 Jan 2008 by Derek Moody
I would like to add:

In article , Oz
wrote:
Derek Moody writes

Assuming it's burrowing and you can track it to the burrow then, if you're
patient enough (or hungry enough) to wait a few hours over the hole you can
often grab them by hand.

Snares reputedly work well. Been in use for 10's of thousands of years.

I haven't used them for years. Used to get a few that way as a lad. Maybe
I should make some more but atm I don't have anywhere to set them...

Jones used to shoot them but with all the post Dunblane licensing regs
he's ceased his certificates - firearms and shotgun, too many knee
jerk regs.

That was to keep guns away from jerks in the first place. I mean
simply stating "I want to kill animals for fun" is no longer
acceptable these days!









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The stories Britannia could tell

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

Jim Webster writes
actually in area where they are dependent on pumping stations to get them
water, that might not be too silly. What use dry foods when there is no
water at the tap and no one has come round with standpipes?

snow is frozen water .....

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"Oz" wrote in message
...
Jim Webster writes
actually in area where they are dependent on pumping stations to get them
water, that might not be too silly. What use dry foods when there is no
water at the tap and no one has come round with standpipes?

snow is frozen water .....


but thaws awfully slowly if your only heat source is electricity in a power
cut.
The number of houses built with only electric and/or gas as power sources is
high enough to be worrying

Jim Webster

Jim Webster writes
but thaws awfully slowly if your only heat source is electricity in a power
cut. The number of houses built with only electric and/or gas as power
sources is high enough to be worrying

Hmmm, I guess some people don't have gas BBQ's or the odd small bottogas
heaters then?

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"Oz" wrote in message
...
Jim Webster writes
but thaws awfully slowly if your only heat source is electricity in a
power
cut. The number of houses built with only electric and/or gas as power
sources is high enough to be worrying

Hmmm, I guess some people don't have gas BBQ's or the odd small bottogas
heaters then?


quite a lot I suspect. What would someone in the urban Northwest terraced
house want with a gas BBQ?

up here we can go for years without anyone suggesting a BBQ ;-))

There will be some but a lot of people will not have them

Jim Webster

Oz wrote:
Jim Webster writes
yes, when you look at how much reserve stock is available in some towns, two
or three days cut off with snow would be a major issue

Hmmm...

More true than one would want to know about. Few people store more than
a few days of anything. Stocks of dried foods (flour, pulses etc) are
often zero these days.

A situation where vast areas of the country were cut off (eg 1963) would
actually be life threatening on a mass scale.

Also, people seem to hoard-buy things like bread rather than dried
foods.


So long as there's power, I've personally got a about two weeks of
food. Bread would be interesting - I could do lots of unleavened
bread type things (pancakes, blinis, tortillas) from scratch, and a
small amount of regular type bread (couple of bread making packs with
the yeast included). Tins, dried, frozen foods.

No power and we're down to what I can cook on an old open fireplace -
and I don't have a large store of fuel, which means "use the frozen
stuff NOW and keep the tins for later", which means things will get
more limited.

Lots of ducks on the canal - very tame, should be easy to catch with a
bit of old bread for bait ;-)


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Jim Webster wrote:
"Oz" wrote in message
...
Jim Webster writes
actually in area where they are dependent on pumping stations to get them
water, that might not be too silly. What use dry foods when there is no
water at the tap and no one has come round with standpipes?
snow is frozen water .....


but thaws awfully slowly if your only heat source is electricity in a power
cut.
The number of houses built with only electric and/or gas as power sources is
high enough to be worrying


And a big pan of snow only gets you a little pan of water.


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Jim Webster writes

quite a lot I suspect. What would someone in the urban Northwest terraced
house want with a gas BBQ?

cos they are advertised?

up here we can go for years without anyone suggesting a BBQ ;-))

has summer passed you bye again?

There will be some but a lot of people will not have them

They will have a pretty tough time then.

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Jette writes
So long as there's power, I've personally got a about two weeks of food.
Bread would be interesting - I could do lots of unleavened bread type things
(pancakes, blinis, tortillas) from scratch, and a small amount of regular
type bread (couple of bread making packs with the yeast included).

Note that a small bit of todays bread, left in a warm place until
tomorrow, will make enough yeast for tomorrow's bread.

Tins,
dried, frozen foods.

Indeed. However its likely that power will be off, at least for several
days. Here, of course, the power will stay on since I bought a little
genny (£39.99, 750W, runs 10hrs on 4L), which will run the boiler and
waterpump.

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Jette writes

And a big pan of snow only gets you a little pan of water.


Yes, but there is probably HEAPS of it to be had just outside your
door....

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Oz wrote:
Jette writes
And a big pan of snow only gets you a little pan of water.


Yes, but there is probably HEAPS of it to be had just outside your
door....



Nah, not outside MY door. (and if it was, it would take a bit more
than boiling it to make it safe)

Tis possible to be "snowed in" without a single flake landing near
*you*, if it blocks the main routes into and out of a town or city.
Used to happen all the time when I lived in East Lothian.

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"Oz" wrote in message
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Jim Webster writes

quite a lot I suspect. What would someone in the urban Northwest terraced
house want with a gas BBQ?

cos they are advertised?

stand on the pavement with your BBQ?


up here we can go for years without anyone suggesting a BBQ ;-))

has summer passed you bye again?

It is a brave, or consistantly lucky individual who decides to have a BBQ
more than twelve hours ahead ;-)


There will be some but a lot of people will not have them

They will have a pretty tough time then.


exactly, a big problem.
At least the terraced houses mostly still have their fireplaces

Jim Webster

"Oz" wrote in message
...
Jette writes

And a big pan of snow only gets you a little pan of water.


Yes, but there is probably HEAPS of it to be had just outside your
door....


the colour of urban snow, even when not actually yellow, is not such as to
inspire one to culinary excellence........

Jim Webster

Jim Webster writes

"Oz" wrote in message
...
Jim Webster writes

quite a lot I suspect. What would someone in the urban Northwest terraced
house want with a gas BBQ?

cos they are advertised?

stand on the pavement with your BBQ?

Don't they have back yards, actually people even take them to public
parks and have a BBQ there.

up here we can go for years without anyone suggesting a BBQ ;-))

has summer passed you bye again?

It is a brave, or consistantly lucky individual who decides to have a BBQ
more than twelve hours ahead ;-)

Tsk, and I thought you could read your weather.


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