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Hi Gordon
You could just about get in some of the following for winter crops,

Brussel Sprouts
Broccoli
Some Autumn/late carrots
Parsnips
Leeks
Turnips

Also the autum is a good time to be thinking about friut trees and bushes, also rhubarb can be easily grown and rewarding in the garden and simple to use in a variety of dishes.

I am sure that now you have got started again you will have next year mapped out a lot earlier which will give you a lot more choice.

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Hello folks, I am Gordon, age 74, widowed 13 years, living on the
outskirts of Manchester.
Three grown children, son in Australia, daughter in California, elder
daughter a few miles away from here.
Three grandchildren spread around the world. ;-)

When my wife was alive, I grew many vegetables, but have found it
unrewarding since living alone.
This year I planted half a dozen runner beans and some salad bowl
lettuce, because I like tender beans for stir-fries, and because the
lettuce provides a steady supply of leaves which are sufficient for my
needs.
I have also re-instated my resolve that half an hour in the garden each
day can keep it tidy, after a period of neglect, I'm afraid.
I have only a small garden, 90ft from front to rear of my property, and
mostly it has been planned as low-maintenance as I have grown older,
with shrubs and perennials as I have become ancient.

I was tempted 'out of cover' by the thread on Physostegia, the first
contribution I have been able to make since reading the group for a few
weeks.
In the current situation of increasing food prices and in the interests
of health, I will be looking for suggestions perhaps for winter
vegetables.
I have forgotten most of what I once knew!
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I know that Terry has his hives at a place where particular pollen is
within easy reach, I think it is Rape Seed.


Pollen isn't necessary for honey, honey is made from nectar.

Oooops...

Oil seed rape is an excellent source of nectar when it's flowering, it
produces a lot, it also produces a lot of pollen to feed the larvae and it
makes a good light honey.

There are management problems associated with OSR but you do get a lot of
honey from it.

When someone first persuaded me that honey is not just sugar, they said
that the pollen content was what might have an effect on hay fever type
allergies. Mind you, that person is a bit of a health freak, and
as we found out, an alcoholic. ;-)
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"Gordon H" wrote in message
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When someone first persuaded me that honey is not just sugar,


It's mostly a mixture of two sugars, with about 18% water. The pollen
content, w/w, is minuscule.

they said that the pollen content was what might have an effect on hay
fever type allergies.


Yes, a lot of people think that. A lot of people believe that Elvis lives
and that aliens visit us on our flat Earth.

Mind you, that person is a bit of a health freak, and as we found out,
an alcoholic. ;-)


Hmm.

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I know that Terry has his hives at a place where particular pollen is
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Rape makes rock-hard honey...

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When someone first persuaded me that honey is not just sugar,


It's mostly a mixture of two sugars, with about 18% water. The pollen
content, w/w, is minuscule.


they said that the pollen content was what might have an effect on hay
fever type allergies.


Yes, a lot of people think that. A lot of people believe that Elvis lives
and that aliens visit us on our flat Earth.


Of course Elvis lives! I've seen him in all sorts of reincarnations -
though he's lost his touch at singing...

Mind you, that person is a bit of a health freak, and as we found out,
an alcoholic. ;-)


Hmm.


Mead has a lot to answer for.

Hic!

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That's my attitude towards "alternative medicine" - try it by all
means,
but keep taking the tablets.


:-)

I di buy some local honey, rather expensive at £3.50 per jar, but it
didn't have enough effect to make me pay that price again.


The expense depends on the size of the jar. £3.50 for 3/4 lb seems to be
more or less standard up here. But in shops 'local' honey is much more.
'Local' seems to mean anything within a 50 mile radius - and some of
that, I
know, isn't always produced in that area.

I bought some 2 lb jars of honey for £2 each - not local - blended stuff
which was supposed to be runny hunny, but had set. Made some excellent
mead...


Runny honey can be 'set' by stirring it. Set honey can be made liquid by
warming it. It's all the same. All honey starts out as 'runny'. The setting
depends on crystalisation of the different sugars in it. Different nectars
contain different ratios of the sugars, that's why there are management
problems with OSR honey, it can set in the comb, it's so fast.



At our golden wedding anything anyone wants will be available. Same at my
funeral.


Ar. Not being married, my golden weeding is well over the horizon, but
there should be ample stocks of sloe gin, home-made wines, etc.


Worth getting married for!

I have a particularly pleasant one I'm gargling with at present: it
started life as ginger beer, and I re-used the ginger (fresh, minced)
and the yeast in the bottom of the demijohn, throwing in washings of jam
and marmalade jars, odd syrups from tinned or bottled fruit, simmered
orange peel, etc., and when it was done, I added it to the sloes from
which I'd decanted two gallons of sloe gi^h^h^h white rum. I let that
steep for six months, and while it would win no prizes for its clarity,
it is to die for.


Half an hour ago I decanted and filtered some sweet mead which dates from
the 1975 National Honey Show, where it won first prize. It looked like mud
in the bottle, the sediment covered the walls as well as the bottom. But in
the decanter it's glorious, glowing amber. Pity it's sweet, we'll have to
force it down ...

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Did you dwile your flonk then? When wos the last time you was up the
sitee?

at.



Naw, missus, yew dew flonk dwoiles, not dwile flonks. Dwoiles are cl'ths
(Ask Richard B - it's sim'ler in Dutch) and the word caaum oover with
th' Saaxons. Hin't bi up the sittee for more'n a sennoight.

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Hi int bin fir more n 'at.

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I know that Terry has his hives at a place where particular pollen is
within easy reach, I think it is Rape Seed.


Rape makes rock-hard honey...

He does make the runny type for wimps, and his sister chose runny when
he gave us some. I chose the set, and she admitted it was nicer than
hers. I said "grass/greener side/other".
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Teetotalitarianism is IMO an exercise in being holier than the founder
of the religion, whose first miracle was to turn water into wine...

I'm with you on that score.
And did you see the hilarious clip of the little black girl who was told
the story of the wedding where the miracle was performed?

The preacher asked her what she had learned from the story, and she
said: "If yo run out of wine , get on yore knees and pray".
That is my all-time favourite kids are funny clip.
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Thet yew hed, missus.

That is a Yarmouth accent Rusty!!! what about a Beccles one?


Thet it hin't, and Beccles is in furrin. Oi dun't dew furrin.

We wunce went to Beccles in a boat, tied up and went in the bar and
found a donkey in there scoffing crisps fed to it by the customers.
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Thet yew hed, missus.

That is a Yarmouth accent Rusty!!! what about a Beccles one?


Thet it hin't, and Beccles is in furrin. Oi dun't dew furrin.

We wunce went to Beccles in a boat, tied up and went in the bar and
found a donkey in there scoffing crisps fed to it by the customers.


Ar. Thet be a Beccles man shurely.

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I know that Terry has his hives at a place where particular pollen is
within easy reach, I think it is Rape Seed.


Rape makes rock-hard honey...


Only when it's not dealt with properly.

It can make a very soft, fine-grained, buttery honey, but you need to know
what you're doing. It you let it go rock hard it can be made liquid. It's
not a problem.

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I know that Terry has his hives at a place where particular pollen is
within easy reach, I think it is Rape Seed.


Rape makes rock-hard honey...

He does make the runny type for wimps,


No - his bees make the honey!

and his sister chose runny when he gave us some. I chose the set, and
she admitted it was nicer than hers. I said "grass/greener
side/other".


I once sold some to Baroness Trumpington and asked whether she wanted set or
runny. She said that she wanted set because, "I like my honey to stay where
it's put!"

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"Gordon H" wrote

He does make the runny type for wimps,


No - his bees make the honey!

Pedant Alert!
:-)

I once sold some to Baroness Trumpington and asked whether she wanted set or
runny. She said that she wanted set because, "I like my honey to stay where
it's put!"

So do I.
Old old, rhyme alert

I eat my peas with honey
Done it all my life
It makes the peas taste funny
But it keeps them on the knife.
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Thet yew hed, missus.


That is a Yarmouth accent Rusty!!! what about a Beccles one?


Thet it hin't, and Beccles is in furrin. Oi dun't dew furrin.

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Oi dint do furrin nether!

Judith
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