Jake Nospam@invalid wrote in
:

But I really hope things work out right for you quickly. It may sound
daft but if you haven't already try and drop, casually, into
conversation with the Police that your son's starting training later
in the year.



Cheers
Jake
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Gardening at the dry end (east) of Swansea Bay
in between reading anything by JRR Tolkien.

www.rivendell.org.uk


Jake,
I know what you say and that would lower myself, why should I be different
because of that? It should not make any difference. If I did that and he
got to know about it, it would undermine everything he believes in.
Anyone who is tempted to bribe or otherwise corrupt can never understand
freedom.

Baz

Sacha wrote in :


Is there anything you can do as a community? It's difficult with
everyone going to work each day but I wonder if patrols could be
arranged whereby, at the first sign of trouble, the perp knows they've
been spotted and the police called.
I agree. I think it's terrifying to think this has been done as you
slept and what is almost worse is to think he'll get off with an asbo
or less.

We have a thing here I think it's called community policing, where
civillians don a uniform, paid,full time but have lesser powers than the
actual police.
It's been a few hours now since the discovery of this rotten lot, and we
have both calmed down so much.
We are going to have to think hard about security and how much budget, to
my way of thinking it is maximum. We can't have this again.

Baz

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 09:43:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just
a
sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I
spotted
this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had
shown
that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore!

!! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre, I
certainly needed a spare.

Most customers are townies, shed horseshoe nails are bit rare in
towns... Also most people these days wouldn't even know how to change
a wheel, assuming they know where the spare and/or the jack is
located.

I know where my jack and spare wheel are. I also know how to change a
wheel - my dear old Dad saw to that. My problem is I just don't have the
strength to undo the wheel nuts the tyer fitters did up with a machine.

Baz, you and Mrs Baz have my sympathy. If it's any consolation, the coward,
having taken his revenge, will most likely not come near you again, because
you know who he is.

--
Kathy

"Baz" wrote in message
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Baz wrote in :

Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding
when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude
asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong
with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I
wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames
cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer.
Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was
stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me
were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was
surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang
them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup
truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly.

6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed
tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars.

I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work
tomorrow.

Baz


This man is now in custody.

Good. I hope they make it all stick, and he gets a right miserable
magistrate on a bad hair/rotten hangover day.

--
Kathy

Kathy wrote:
I know where my jack and spare wheel are. I also know how to change a
wheel - my dear old Dad saw to that. My problem is I just don't have the
strength to undo the wheel nuts the tyer fitters did up with a machine.

If it makes you feel better, my brother, my dad, Nick, various other people,
couldn't undo my brother's, ended up having to call out the AA to fix a flat
tyre. :-/

"Baz" wrote

Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the
scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds worth
of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do US harm.
I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get
some quality recordable security here. Today if I can. The police are
going to talk with us later on today about security.


Sympathy friend, take a look here....

http://www.maplin.co.uk/search?criteria=Cctv

Do remember to put at least one camera at eye level (hidden or disguised if
poss) as a lot of the scum wear hoodies so high cameras don't get much in
the way of ID. We used to have a special one at work that got people full
face as they came through the door and no-one knew it was a camera as it
looked like something else.
The picture must be as good as a normal TV not those useless grainy ones you
see on crimewatch, so you need to check before you buy.

-- Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK

On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:23:16 +0100, "Kathy" wrote:

I know where my jack and spare wheel are. I also know how to change a
wheel - my dear old Dad saw to that. My problem is I just don't have the
strength to undo the wheel nuts the tyer fitters did up with a machine.

The last time my car had a puncture I couldn't undo the wheel nuts and
had to call the AA. The man had some gadget that allowed greater
leverage but it stripped the corners on one of the nuts. He called
another person who arrived and produced a gadget to clamp on the nut
and then with a huge amount of effort he unscrewed the actual threaded
blot in the wheel. It took about two hours and then cost nearly £60 to
get the wheel repaired.

I've since sold my car.

Steve

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In message , Martin
writes

We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just a
sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I spotted
this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had shown
that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore!

Wow! What a salesman!
--
Gordon H
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In message , harryagain
writes

"Baz" wrote
Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the
scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds worth
of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do US harm.
I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get
some quality recordable security here. Today if I can. The police are
going to talk with us later on today about security.

Baz
Cheapest is to get a fake camera.

I bought several cheap (circa 30/40 quid) cameras when we had a fence
repeatedly smashed. The vandalism has not occurred again after several
years, and I know that the cameras were quickly spotted by local kids
because one of them slyly asked what they were for...

They are a definite deterrent, and I handed a tape to the local cops
which placed two yobs in my garden at 06:30 one morning.
No time-stamp on the video, but my statement guaranteeing that the video
recorder was set at the correct time was enough to I/D them and add a
charge of trespass to the burglary they had committed elsewhere the same
morning. They were caught after an alert neighbour saw his kitchen
door handle turn as they tried it, and called the police who were
attending the nearby burglary.

My main camera is connected to a DVD recorder and (importantly
programmed to record at all times except for evening TV viewing. :-)

Security measures are best installed *before* incidents happen, and
upgraded from time to time.

A personal not eto Baz, I understand how you feel, because we were
troubled by street gangs in this otherwise respectable area, until
cooperation between local councillors and the police broke them up.
Since the introduction of ASBOS it has been very quiet here...

Don't let the b*****ds ruin your health, I would think that they are
unlikely to return...
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Gordon H
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In message , Sacha
writes

Is there anything you can do as a community? It's difficult with
everyone going to work each day but I wonder if patrols could be
arranged whereby, at the first sign of trouble, the perp knows they've
been spotted and the police called.

What we need are more policemen, and what we are getting are many less
policeman. But it's good for the economy.
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Gordon H
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In message , Baz
writes

Where to get tyres is top of my list now. The price is mad as well with
callout charges.

I used E-Tyres for my last tyre changes, the price was good and they
came and changed the tyres on my drive.
If you call early, they will often fit them next day, and I would think
your case would get priority.
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Gordon H
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In message , Moonraker
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I often see (as everyone must) anti-social behaviour, but being a
devout coward I say nothing. If you admonish someone for litter
dropping you will at least get a mouthful of verbal abuse, perhaps
worse. I don't think it worth it. Which is why it is so prevalent I
suspect.

This is where PCSOs have made a difference, in Tameside, there are
regularly fines of £175 handed out for dropping a cigarette end!
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Gordon H
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In message , harryagain
writes

Vote for the BNP!
We have had too many years of liberals and socialiasts.

Eh? It's liberals and Conservatives who are getting rid of
experienced cops.
We haven't had a Socialist government in Britain since I was a young
lad!
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Gordon H
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In message , Baz
writes

This man is now in custody.
Baz

Good news.
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In article , Sacha
writes
!! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre, I
certainly needed a spare. I've had 3 puncture altogether with this
car, having never had one in my life before!
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I've had 12 in my Volvo 70 as the wheels are low profile. i also have to
have at least one every year at the MOT, and I don't do that many miles!
I got about 6 last year after the winter had kindly left holes in the
road big enough to whack the tyres into submission!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk