in article , Chris at
serve wrote on 24/10/03 8:42 pm:

Please please help !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular off
the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.
snip

You buy a fox trap, like the one I saw today in our local farm supply type
shop (Tuckers in Ashburton) and having trapped your fox, you shoot it.
What else would you do? Moving it on to be someone else's problem doesn't
seem right, does it? Sweet creature.
--

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in article , oldmolly at
wrote on 24/10/03 10:20 pm:


"Chris" wrote in message
...
Ah so its not just my garden they like , so apart from the obvious which
is
get my mate round with his shot gun ( ducks for incoming don't shoot our
fox's replies ) how can we stop the darn things or just make them go to
someone else's?????

You simply purchase a cheapo battery powered electric fence energiser and
run a strand of electric twine at about 10 - 12" from the ground. They will
only get zapped a couple of times before moving on to your neighbours land.
I have such a thing for sale if you are interested :0)


And the neighbour will then do what?
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The message
from Jason Pope contains these words:

12 bore shotgun?
Maybe some of that "cat-off" stuff will work on them?

That's a novel idea - shoot them with cat-off. Then they fox off, you hope?

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The message
from "Chris" contains these words:
oldmolly wrote in message
...

I have such a thing for sale if you are interested :0)

Looks like I might have started something here :-)

mmmm looks like the lecy fence idea may be a starter.

Just out of curisoity how much is your lecy fence and what does it come with
???

Our local gamekeeper keeps them out of his laying pens with a two-strand
fence.

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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

The message
from Jason Pope contains these words:

Erm, you could be opening yourself up to legal problems!
If someone was to come on your property and get shocked you could be sued!

? Sued for what? If someone were silly enough to be shocked and sue,
they might win ten pence in damages and run up hundreds of pounds costs.

Only in Mercadia......

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horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:46 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.


Yes all very nice in a dream world Mr Snotty but let me pop round and have a
Cr*p in your lounge, tear your carpet up that you have just had put down, oh
and for good measure I will trash a few ornaments.

Why do you let foxes in your lounge, can you not just close the door
Mrs Fish?

Don't get me wrong , I love wild life and positively encourage the birds
etc, but then that will start me on another problem which is the dam magpies
which are muscling in on the poor sparrows etc,

You are completely mistaken, blind and stupid. Magpies do not muscle
in on anything, they happily coexist with much wildlife, here we can
often see magpie and sparrow in the same tree.

the foxs were no trouble at
first, that was around 5yrs ago, they kept themselves to themselves now they
seem to outnumber the local cats and dogs !!!!

Learn to adapt or die like the dinosaurs. If you live in a glass
house, you don't buy a bull.

Are you people really so stupid or you just taking the ****?








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:46 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.


Yes all very nice in a dream world Mr Snotty but let me pop round and have a
Cr*p in your lounge, tear your carpet up that you have just had put down, oh
and for good measure I will trash a few ornaments.

Why do you let foxes in your lounge, can you not just close the door
Mrs Fish?

Don't get me wrong , I love wild life and positively encourage the birds
etc, but then that will start me on another problem which is the dam magpies
which are muscling in on the poor sparrows etc,

You are completely mistaken, blind and stupid. Magpies do not muscle
in on anything, they happily coexist with much wildlife, here we can
often see magpie and sparrow in the same tree.

the foxs were no trouble at
first, that was around 5yrs ago, they kept themselves to themselves now they
seem to outnumber the local cats and dogs !!!!

Learn to adapt or die like the dinosaurs. If you live in a glass
house, you don't buy a bull.

Are you people really so stupid or you just taking the ****?








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:46 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.


Yes all very nice in a dream world Mr Snotty but let me pop round and have a
Cr*p in your lounge, tear your carpet up that you have just had put down, oh
and for good measure I will trash a few ornaments.

Why do you let foxes in your lounge, can you not just close the door
Mrs Fish?

Don't get me wrong , I love wild life and positively encourage the birds
etc, but then that will start me on another problem which is the dam magpies
which are muscling in on the poor sparrows etc,

You are completely mistaken, blind and stupid. Magpies do not muscle
in on anything, they happily coexist with much wildlife, here we can
often see magpie and sparrow in the same tree.

the foxs were no trouble at
first, that was around 5yrs ago, they kept themselves to themselves now they
seem to outnumber the local cats and dogs !!!!

Learn to adapt or die like the dinosaurs. If you live in a glass
house, you don't buy a bull.

Are you people really so stupid or you just taking the ****?








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:46 +0100, "Chris"
wrote:


Most of us are quite happy to share our gardens with nature and all it
throws at us, wildlife in the garden is a big, big bonus and often
encouraged. It's only the selfish bigots who complain, but then they
shouldnt have a garden, they dont deserve one.


Yes all very nice in a dream world Mr Snotty but let me pop round and have a
Cr*p in your lounge, tear your carpet up that you have just had put down, oh
and for good measure I will trash a few ornaments.

Why do you let foxes in your lounge, can you not just close the door
Mrs Fish?

Don't get me wrong , I love wild life and positively encourage the birds
etc, but then that will start me on another problem which is the dam magpies
which are muscling in on the poor sparrows etc,

You are completely mistaken, blind and stupid. Magpies do not muscle
in on anything, they happily coexist with much wildlife, here we can
often see magpie and sparrow in the same tree.

the foxs were no trouble at
first, that was around 5yrs ago, they kept themselves to themselves now they
seem to outnumber the local cats and dogs !!!!

Learn to adapt or die like the dinosaurs. If you live in a glass
house, you don't buy a bull.

Are you people really so stupid or you just taking the ****?








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:26:36 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

in article , Chris at
wrote on 24/10/03 8:42 pm:

Please please help !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular off
the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.
snip

You buy a fox trap, like the one I saw today in our local farm supply type
shop (Tuckers in Ashburton) and having trapped your fox, you shoot it.

Which in turn encourages a population explosion in the fox birth rate,
it could well explain the problems people have with numbers of foxes
on the up and up constantly. It's called the rebound effect, wildlife
will breed within it's means, if you keep killing them, they will keep
breeding at maximum rate, so you kill more and they breed more.

The solution is to stop killing them, let the population stabilize,
and live with them like you should be doing anyway. Birth control is
also very effective on wild animals, it controls populations whilst
not causing a hike in breeding rates.

All quite logical if people were not quite as dumb as they sound.








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:26:36 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

in article , Chris at
wrote on 24/10/03 8:42 pm:

Please please help !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular off
the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.
snip

You buy a fox trap, like the one I saw today in our local farm supply type
shop (Tuckers in Ashburton) and having trapped your fox, you shoot it.

Which in turn encourages a population explosion in the fox birth rate,
it could well explain the problems people have with numbers of foxes
on the up and up constantly. It's called the rebound effect, wildlife
will breed within it's means, if you keep killing them, they will keep
breeding at maximum rate, so you kill more and they breed more.

The solution is to stop killing them, let the population stabilize,
and live with them like you should be doing anyway. Birth control is
also very effective on wild animals, it controls populations whilst
not causing a hike in breeding rates.

All quite logical if people were not quite as dumb as they sound.








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:26:36 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

in article , Chris at
wrote on 24/10/03 8:42 pm:

Please please help !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular off
the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.
snip

You buy a fox trap, like the one I saw today in our local farm supply type
shop (Tuckers in Ashburton) and having trapped your fox, you shoot it.

Which in turn encourages a population explosion in the fox birth rate,
it could well explain the problems people have with numbers of foxes
on the up and up constantly. It's called the rebound effect, wildlife
will breed within it's means, if you keep killing them, they will keep
breeding at maximum rate, so you kill more and they breed more.

The solution is to stop killing them, let the population stabilize,
and live with them like you should be doing anyway. Birth control is
also very effective on wild animals, it controls populations whilst
not causing a hike in breeding rates.

All quite logical if people were not quite as dumb as they sound.








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:26:36 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

in article , Chris at
wrote on 24/10/03 8:42 pm:

Please please help !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes our urban fox is a very sweet creature BUT NOT IN MY GARDEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now over run with the buggers , well OK we have a regular 3 that I
know of, and they are wrecking the place not to mention the ghastly smell
:-(
How do I get rid of them or move them on , I have tried all the regular off
the shelf stuff and they just laugh it off.
snip

You buy a fox trap, like the one I saw today in our local farm supply type
shop (Tuckers in Ashburton) and having trapped your fox, you shoot it.

Which in turn encourages a population explosion in the fox birth rate,
it could well explain the problems people have with numbers of foxes
on the up and up constantly. It's called the rebound effect, wildlife
will breed within it's means, if you keep killing them, they will keep
breeding at maximum rate, so you kill more and they breed more.

The solution is to stop killing them, let the population stabilize,
and live with them like you should be doing anyway. Birth control is
also very effective on wild animals, it controls populations whilst
not causing a hike in breeding rates.

All quite logical if people were not quite as dumb as they sound.








'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.801% richest people in the world.
There are 5,951,930,035 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 48,069,965
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:31:03 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote:

? Sued for what?

Damages. For example I suspect that a pace maker and fencer jolt
wouldn't get on to well.

However provided you stick to the legal requirements (warning
notices?) ensure that the line could not be touched from any place of
public access then (INAL) they would have a job getting a case to
stick.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:31:03 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote:

? Sued for what?

Damages. For example I suspect that a pace maker and fencer jolt
wouldn't get on to well.

However provided you stick to the legal requirements (warning
notices?) ensure that the line could not be touched from any place of
public access then (INAL) they would have a job getting a case to
stick.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail