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Can kale be subbed in stirfry for bok choy ? I have kale seeds , but have
never grown it . I'm getting my plan together for this year's garden , with
an emphasis on staples such as corn , beans dry and green , tomatoes , etc
, but I'd like to try some new stuff . I see from looking online that kale
and bok are both brassicas , and wondered how different they would be in
chinese cooking .
I'll be tryin' to grow lettuce again , but I think I'll try something
besides black seeded simpson , never have been happy with the lettuce I've
grown . Might even try a headed variety this year . Also going to attempt
some spinach , we really like it in salads . Hmm , kale might be good in
salad too ...
I'll be doubling the garden space this year , since I'm here full time now
and I just filed for retirement . I told my wife I'm going to become a
"Gentleman Farmer" , she like to fell out laughing at me ... but hey , we've
got "livestock" chickens , and I'll be growing stuff , so what's so funny
?
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Terry Coombs wrote:
Can kale be subbed in stirfry for bok choy ?


Yes but it cooks quicker, put it in near the end.

I have kale seeds , but
have never grown it . I'm getting my plan together for this year's
garden , with an emphasis on staples such as corn , beans dry and
green , tomatoes , etc , but I'd like to try some new stuff . I see
from looking online that kale and bok are both brassicas , and
wondered how different they would be in chinese cooking .


Fairly similar in flavour depending on which cultivars you grow. Bok Choy
leaves cook as fast as kale but the stems take longer than leaves. I don't
like the stems of kale much so I cut them out but they are edible, just more
woody than bok choy. Kale has the advantage of being biennial and you can
keep cutting and it will come again.

I'll be tryin' to grow lettuce again , but I think I'll try something
besides black seeded simpson , never have been happy with the lettuce
I've grown . Might even try a headed variety this year . Also going
to attempt some spinach , we really like it in salads . Hmm , kale
might be good in salad too ...


It is, particularly the young leaves, it can get a bit tough if they get
old.

I'll be doubling the garden space this year , since I'm here full
time now and I just filed for retirement . I told my wife I'm going
to become a "Gentleman Farmer" , she like to fell out laughing at me
... but hey , we've got "livestock" chickens , and I'll be growing
stuff , so what's so funny ?


Nothing funny at all. Start some wine grapes and you will have all the main
food groups.

D

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David Hare-Scott wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote:

I'll be doubling the garden space this year , since I'm here full
time now and I just filed for retirement . I told my wife I'm going
to become a "Gentleman Farmer" , she like to fell out laughing at me
... but hey , we've got "livestock" chickens , and I'll be growing
stuff , so what's so funny ?


Nothing funny at all. Start some wine grapes and you will have all
the main food groups.

D


Do Muscadines and fox grapes count ? We've got musc's all over this piece
of land , and I've been planning to train some to trellisses . Our neighbor
made some jelly and wine from some last fall . The jelly is awesome , the
wine is still aging .
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Can kale be subbed in stirfry for bok choy ? I have kale seeds , but have
never grown it . I'm getting my plan together for this year's garden ,
with an emphasis on staples such as corn , beans dry and green ,
tomatoes , etc , but I'd like to try some new stuff . I see from looking
online that kale and bok are both brassicas , and wondered how different
they would be in chinese cooking .
I'll be tryin' to grow lettuce again , but I think I'll try something
besides black seeded simpson , never have been happy with the lettuce I've
grown . Might even try a headed variety this year . Also going to attempt
some spinach , we really like it in salads . Hmm , kale might be good in
salad too ...
I'll be doubling the garden space this year , since I'm here full time
now and I just filed for retirement . I told my wife I'm going to become a
"Gentleman Farmer" , she like to fell out laughing at me ... but hey ,
we've got "livestock" chickens , and I'll be growing stuff , so what's
so funny ?



In my experience kale is more bitter than bok choy, although not so bitter
that it is unpalatable. This could be the type of kale I have grown (Curly
Kale) and also I tend to wait until it has nice large leaves, so probably
miss out on the young leaves. My wife and the kids when they were at home
used to love it baked in to chips/crisps.

"Gentleman Farmer" maybe it was the green wellingtons that had her laughing.

Mike



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Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
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Can kale be subbed in stirfry for bok choy ? I have kale seeds ,
but have never grown it . I'm getting my plan together for this
year's garden , with an emphasis on staples such as corn , beans
dry and green , tomatoes , etc , but I'd like to try some new
stuff . I see from looking online that kale and bok are both
brassicas , and wondered how different they would be in chinese
cooking . I'll be tryin' to grow lettuce again , but I think I'll
try something besides black seeded simpson , never have been happy
with the lettuce I've grown . Might even try a headed variety this
year . Also going to attempt some spinach , we really like it in
salads . Hmm , kale might be good in salad too ...
I'll be doubling the garden space this year , since I'm here full
time now and I just filed for retirement . I told my wife I'm going
to become a "Gentleman Farmer" , she like to fell out laughing at me
... but hey , we've got "livestock" chickens , and I'll be growing
stuff , so what's so funny ?



In my experience kale is more bitter than bok choy, although not so
bitter that it is unpalatable. This could be the type of kale I have
grown (Curly Kale) and also I tend to wait until it has nice large
leaves, so probably miss out on the young leaves. My wife and the
kids when they were at home used to love it baked in to chips/crisps.

"Gentleman Farmer" maybe it was the green wellingtons that had her
laughing.
Mike


Actually I was wearing motorcycle boots when I said that ... but no black
leather and the only chain was the one on my wallet .
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"Terry Coombs" wrote:

Can kale be subbed in stirfry for bok choy ?


Probably, but they have different textures. Doesn't bok choy resemble celery?

I'm getting my plan together for this year's garden , with
an emphasis on staples such as corn , beans dry and green , tomatoes , etc
, but I'd like to try some new stuff .


I tried growing pole beans last year but they died. I'm going to try again
this year. The bush beans grow well but picking them has become arduous.

I see from looking online that kale
and bok are both brassicas , and wondered how different they would be in
chinese cooking .


I have also been trying a Chinese food motif: garlic, kohlrabi in lieu of
water chestnut, mung beans (used to make sprouts), green onions, and sweet
corn picked at the "baby" stage. Also morel mushrooms from the woods.

I'll be tryin' to grow lettuce again , but I think I'll try something
besides black seeded simpson , never have been happy with the lettuce I've
grown . Might even try a headed variety this year . Also going to attempt
some spinach , we really like it in salads .


Leaf lettuce grows well for me but I'm not fond of it. Head lettuce
and spinach are intolerant of warm (not even hot) weather. I tried
growing Iceberg and it bolted (formed a seed stalk) almost immediately.
I had good luck growing spinach in the basement in winter; in a plastic
tote full of dirt with a shop light hanging over it.

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natp wrote:
"Terry Coombs" wrote:

Can kale be subbed in stirfry for bok choy ?


Probably, but they have different textures. Doesn't bok choy resemble
celery?


They are not very similar as they have different families, flavour and
habit. Celery has much more stalk in proportion to leaves than most asian
brassicas.

Of course we may have trouble agreeing on what is bok choy, there are many
Asian brassicas such as bok choy, pak choy, choy sum, een choy, wong buk,
the list goes on. Most are varieties of Brassica rapa. Look here for
details. http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au...sica_rapa.html

Never underestimate the capacity of people to find different names for the
same thing or the same name for different things. As well there is the
tendency for the varieties to cross pollinate, so you could end up with your
own cultivar if you grow several kinds near each other.

D

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Derald wrote:
It's those damned chickens. You'll celebrate the day you rid
yourself of them.


No no no , the chickens are great ! We're averaging 3-5 eggs daily from 7
hens , which is great for this time of year . Those eggs buy good will from
the neighbors and make my dog love me even more and come summer they'll be a
source of income .
The first 3 were named by my g-kids , I named the 4 new ones ... Sunday
Dinner , Chicken & Dumplings , Chicken soup , you get the idea . When they
quit laying , into the freezer they'll go and new ones will take their place
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Terry Coombs wrote:
Derald wrote:
It's those damned chickens. You'll celebrate the day you rid
yourself of them.


No no no , the chickens are great ! We're averaging 3-5 eggs daily
from 7 hens , which is great for this time of year . Those eggs buy
good will from the neighbors and make my dog love me even more and
come summer they'll be a source of income .
The first 3 were named by my g-kids , I named the 4 new ones ...
Sunday Dinner , Chicken & Dumplings , Chicken soup , you get the idea
. When they quit laying , into the freezer they'll go and new ones
will take their place .


I agree. I love having fresh eggs and I like having them around even when
they are naughty and scratch where they shoudn't.

D

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Derald wrote:

Wife & I buy eggs
from a lady down the road who likes her chickens as much as you do
yours but I don't believe she names them!


You can't eat something with a name.

D


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Derald wrote:
"Terry Coombs" wrote:

No no no , the chickens are great ! We're averaging 3-5 eggs daily
from 7 hens , which is great for this time of year . Those eggs buy
good will from the neighbors and make my dog love me even more and
come summer they'll be a source of income .


Wife & I buy eggs
from a lady down the road who likes her chickens as much as you do
yours but I don't believe she names them!


That was the grandkids idea ... they used names like Ariel Disney
princesses , etc. You'll notice I was being kinda food-oriented ... and
joking . Kinda like last fall when I told them I was out to put Bambi's
daddy in my freezer only then I was serious but they didn't know that .
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